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1. What is your condition? (formal or informal diagnosis) 

Formal diagnosis of ASPD and recently, Bipolar 1.

2. Any childhood traumas? (rape, bullying, death in the family, etc.)

My childhood was good. No distinct trauma, and I grew up in a very nice, wealthy, low-crime area. No clue why I'm so messed up.

3. How does your empathy level compare with the average person?

I'm not sure how to rate this, but I understand people and their emotions very well, even when it's things I've never felt myself. I've been told by friends that I handle people's emotional problems very coldly and clinically, though. Make of that what you will.

4. Do you have the ability to alter your empathy level at will?

Yes. When something is making me uncomfortable, I can snap right out of empathy. Empathy is usually the default, however.

5. Do you find that your empathy level is a bigger asset than not in life, or is it a greater hindrance than a help?

It's very much an advantage to be in control. It means less pain, and more efficiency in intense environments.

I think my problem lies in my inability to trust or have "deeper" connections with people, rather than just surface-level empathy. I have yet to truly trust anyone, and I know that no one should ever trust me. I guess I don't feel that lonely, but I feel like I'm missing out on something.

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you know the story

i'm a sociopath(ASPD) that's very psychopathic (i would be a 38/40 on hare)

one of my grand parents on mothers side is a narcissist and the other is a psychopath

mother is a very narcissistic and psychopathic sociopath equal or more so than my self

dads family has some adhd + asperger throughout his family

my self bla bla tests

http://imgur.com/Cbc2YwC,hqAf4cB,CRI12S6,TQr6psk,BAJwue9#0 multiple test results

narcissist genes+psychopath genes+child abuse(not sexual) but emotional/psychological and psychical from living with my mother for 90% of my child and teen life and partial young adult life = me

having to endure my dads complaints and anger constantly is stressful his is mainly caused by alcoholism withdrawl so he can be a bit psychotic getting confused beyond the normal aspie level that his family would.. he mainly just doesn't understand

my mums complaints and yelling is mainly due to mental illness she's purely NUTS more than her sister (but my mum just hides it better than her sister does and her sister didn't obtain the psychopathic gene my mother did yet convert to sociopath due to abuse)

both of my parents are nearly impossible to live with and i recent found out how stressful they are will cause me to have an early death in some recent study i read about stressful people

 

i have some secondary problems like ocd and adhd from father yet those aren't the main issue ocd can be linked to adhd and adhd can coexist with aspd(sociopathy) and my mum used to smoke during pregnancy = more adhd

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i got cake syndrome i say where's the cake? when ever it suits me

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You know what else helps when you want something? It may be hard to grasp, but it is actually something that is quite easy-

BE NICE. :)

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by neoninsanity

Hey gang!

I'm curious to better understand the mechanism of empathy in the mind of a Bipolar person. I've had Bipolar I my whole life (diagnosed at 17), and I was also tortured in school from pre-k through high school. I feel like many atypical minds are also tormented in school. Given that such negative programming early on might account for a muted amount of empathy, I still feel that my mind processes empathy different than neuro-typicals.

Some examples: I can watch the worst gore on the internet and not flinch. Other people's struggles and downfalls entertain me greatly. My only moral code is the one I have meticulously constructed, and it contains lots of eye-for-an-eye type mentality. And sometimes when I get wasted, I go destroy former employer's property and throw bricks through people's car windows- just for kicks.

BUT- the next day when I sober up, I always regret it and feel heavy amounts of remorse for my actions. I cry during movies, well, I cry all the time actually. Even dead leaves in the gutter (a symbol of faded youth) have been know to make me sob for hours. And I read and appropriately respond to peoples' emotions. I am very well liked and known for being an extremely nurturing and caring person. And I genuinely do love people... well, half the time anyway ; )

I've done honorable, selfless deeds. And I've also been people's worst nightmare. Sometimes by accident. Sometimes on purpose.

But anyway, here's what I wanna know from YOU to help me sort this all out:

1. What is your condition? (formal or informal diagnosis)

2. Any childhood traumas? (rape, bullying, death in the family, etc.)

3. How does your empathy level compare with the average person?

4. Do you have the ability to alter your empathy level at will?

5. Do you find that your empathy level is a bigger asset than not in life, or is it a greater hindrance than a help?

 

Looking forward to your answers! : )

 1) borderline co-morbid with Aspd

2) Bullying, friend died.

3) lower than average(closer to Null).

4) yes, not sure why but i can.

5) empathy definitely helps if you want something.

 

~ Sociochef :)

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First post here

1. Depression/Anxiety

Social anxiety disorder. I believe i might also have a mild case of aspergers and psychopathy

2.  My biological father locking in my mom and beating her when i was 5. I took a screwdriver and tried to break a hole in the door. by the time i was able to get a hole, he stopped and the door was ruined.

My mother emotionally abusing me my entire life and believing me to be evil. Basically making a monster out of me which is what i turned out to be after all.

3. I've experimented with being an empath at one point. Worst experiment ever. I turned out to be even more emphatic than the empaths. I wanted to do that so i could had more power, i was obviously wrong. It stopped, and i became the opposite of an empath.

I still feel energies of emotions to this day but i don't bother to do anything about it. This enables me to use them to my own will though.

4. I don't see a reason for that, but since i've done it before then the answer is yes. I don't need to do it anymore though. I was miserable as an experimental empath.

5. Pretty sure i've answered this already. A hindrance of course. It's weakness. After experiencing what it's like to have empathy (or at least, that's what i thought it was) i realise that there was no use to it and people didn't deserve it.

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No.I have had sex with a few men when I was manic. I think I just prefer to have sex with someone when I am in a relationship with them. I might do it again. I think it can have an effect on your self-esteem when you don't have sex. I attract bozos. Good looking but without substance.

I am sure the majority of women will tell you the clit is it. Men frequently don't focus on a woman's pleasure or desires.

 

PS except for that one guy. :)

Posts: 505
Bipolar vs. Aspies, Socio/Psychos, etc.

I am bipolar 1.

I had some abuse/neglect in my family. Physical and emotional. Not sexual.

I have empathy. It changes based on my mood.

Here are symptoms of mania- You can see that some of them look like someone who is Narcissistic  or sociopathic. It really has nothing to do with those PDs or autism or anything else.

 

Mania:The fast ideas start coming too fast and there are far too many ... overwhelming confusion replaces clarity ... you stop keeping up with it … memory goes. Infectious humor ceases to amuse. Your friends become frightened ... everything is now against the grain ... you are irritable, angry, frightened, uncontrollable, and trapped.

If you have periods of unusually high energy and high mood along with three or more of the following mania symptoms most of the day -- nearly every day -- for one week or longer, you may be having a manic episode of bipolar disorder:

Needing less sleep in order to feel rested
Talking very rapidly or excessively
Distractibility
Fast thoughts
Tendency to show poor judgment, such as impulsively deciding to quit a job
Inflated self-esteem or grandiosity -- unrealistic beliefs in one's ability, intelligence, and powers; may be delusional
Reckless behaviors (such as lavish spending sprees, impulsive sexual indiscretions, abuse of alcohol or drugs, or ill-advised business decisions)
Some people with bipolar disorder become psychotic when manic or depressed, hearing things that aren't there. They may hold onto false beliefs, and cannot be swayed from them. In some instances, they see themselves as having superhuman skills and powers -- even considering themselves to be god-like.

 

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by batshitcrazy

No.I have had sex with a few men when I was manic. I think I just prefer to have sex with someone when I am in a relationship with them. I might do it again. I think it can have an effect on your self-esteem when you don't have sex. I attract bozos. Good looking but without substance.

I am sure the majority of women will tell you the clit is it. Men frequently don't focus on a woman's pleasure or desires.

 

PS except for that one guy. :)

 I have ALWAYS focused on their desires. Now when I was first sexually active back years ago I had to kind of silly putty along and learn what my then partners kinks, and other desires were. As time progressed I seemed to gradually understand and grow within a sexual landscape.

 

If black and white equal sex for you then maybe you aren't having good sex?

 

Coincidentally the first girl I made love to was also bipolar and was affluently crazy...figures..

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