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Socio-Gaydar

Hmmmnnn. I can't exactly disagree with you.

Comedy is another persons Tragedy.

Someone else's experience or morbidity is an other persons fascination.

Entertainment is another persons mystification.

Possibly.

The best an artist can hope for is a sense of happiness from within.

I don't see Van Gough as starving or struggling. If anything he had conduct disorder issues, and decided to travel the world and live life to the fullest, and that is reflected in his works, or in his paintings where he expressed himself.

 

Commerical art is something different, and perhaps the truly happy people need not make any severe sacrifices with their core being. Seems to me that him and his brother were in cahoots. One was a little more devoted to the institution and the other couldn't be arsed.

 

 

Yeah, you'd starve because if people want art, they want the art to represent themselves. Welcome to fashion, right? I dunno.

If people want experience, they want that, and if they are given things freely, they don't appreciate the journey. Perhaps.

Maybe there is addiction for more, in some regards.

I've never really had any want for shiny things. I'm rather utilitarian or socialist, as one could make a bizarre association.

People want others dreams to come true, so you'll find dancers, and musicians who are suffering out there, moreso than in recent history, being celebrated, perhaps a little more than in the past, but it almost seems to me that there are institutions or huge groups high high up picking and choosing which ones to celebrate.

 

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Socio-Gaydar

Yeah, it really could have been the thujone. I have a thujone sensitivity myself. However, not from any type of recreational use, more along the lines of serentipitous discovery through the use of herbal cleanse products and mint flavored ecig juice, or perhaps some other CNS toxicants that have slipped into my life unknowingly. There is no recreational value in thujone.

In fact they say low doses are apart of these peoples diets.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/28/magazine/the-island-where-people-forget-to-die.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

The Island Where People Forget to Die

Leriadis also talked about local “mountain tea,” made from dried herbs endemic to the island, which is enjoyed as an end-of-the-day cocktail. He mentioned wild marjoram, sage (flaskomilia), a type of mint tea (fliskouni), rosemary and a drink made from boiling dandelion leaves and adding a little lemon. “People here think they’re drinking a comforting beverage, but they all double as medicine,” Leriadis said. Honey, too, is treated as a panacea. “They have types of honey here you won’t see anyplace else in the world,” he said. “They use it for everything from treating wounds to curing hangovers, or for treating influenza. Old people here will start their day with a spoonful of honey. They take it like medicine.”

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Socio-Gaydar

Oh, and you do Turncoat?

You are right where you want to be, no compromise.

hey maybe this fucking world sucks.

 

I don't think the man every got frostbite or anything, so... tortured, sure... that's the conduct disorder.

 

Can;t say that though, because "torture" is civil order, and what shapes perfect personality.

 

Personality is ordered. Your welcome.

 

Anyways, he was introvertedly  expressing his adventures on canvas. So, he had no market. It had nothing to do with rarity.

 

He was no Norman Rockwell. Was Norman Rockwell rich? I bet he was. I don't have to look this up do I?

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Socio-Gaydar

Um wrong. You have more materialisms than perhaps he had.

He was very luxurious in the mind. Do you not see that?

 

 

I looked the word up to make sure I am being correct.

extremely comfortable, elegant, or enjoyable, especially in a way that involves great expense.

 

So yeah, turncoat, id seem that you are not comfortable inside yourself. I could be wrong.

 

There is something to it though, I swear.

I dunno. What are we talking about?

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Socio-Gaydar

He is tripping balls! He is happy, and trying to hold shit together.

 

He's surprisingly macho and slightly egotistical (not in an offensive way, but in a prim and wow, I fucking really like myself sort of way). A little more than I thought.

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Socio-Gaydar

"Um wrong. You have more materialisms than perhaps he had."

I don't starve and I live comfortably enough even when at points I'm financially rocky. He's had to suffer for his work, which may have felt worth it to him in a meta-sense, but he was not really "extremely comfortable", didn't live "elegantly", and if he enjoyed his life or not, from what information we have anyway, it doesn't really paint a picture of a joyous life, at best moments that serve as silver linings. There's others that happily lived rougher lives, but he doesn't strike me as one of them.

Looking at his self portraits especially, I wouldn't claim he appears happy.

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Socio-Gaydar

He's Putin!

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Socio-Gaydar

"Oh, and you do Turncoat?"
I certainly have more luxuries than he had anyway, if compared in a relative sense.

"You are right where you want to be, no compromise."
It's not really about being right, it's about throwing what I have and seeing if it gets torn apart or influences in ways that teach me more than what I presented, if not inspiring a point to do more research. I also at points argue things I don't even believe simply to see which argument comes out stronger afterwards, if not for the yielding of new information.

"It had nothing to do with rarity."
Nothing's a bit of a stretch.

"He was no Norman Rockwell. Was Norman Rockwell rich? I bet he was. I don't have to look this up do I?"
Different era, different culture, and if I'm not mistaken wasn't that a time where the American Government was trying to fund the arts for their own political gains, mostly for the PR it brought and the drawing in of artisans from other cultures?

I'm not too great with dates, so I might be off.

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Socio-Gaydar

The answer really has to be drugs for you, doesn't it?

Any supposed drug use could very well be to stave off the pain he'd feel without it, without withdrawal necessarily being that pain. A lot of people with mental trait deviance self-medicate to reach an equilibrium of their own design.

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