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A way to formally insult someone with ASPD.

I would better go to prison, wait out my 7 years and continue my life with a criminal history, than with a stupid generalization attached to my name.

According to the above you only have one so it would be a trait. Not traits, right?

Well, no, I have two if you count cold and aloof.

No, I'm obviously saying that some of the stuff I said in that post back then is bullshit.

So you were researching disorders?

Why would you post that though? To fit in?

No, of course not. I didn't say the entire post was bullshit. I'm not denying though that I lied about a few things on it.

I don't even know why I mentioned having schizotypal PD, because I know for a damn fact I've never been diagnosed with that. Antisocial and schizoid are true because that's even on record. The only reason I would have mentioned schizotypal is because I have traits of it (not nearly enough to be diagnosed with it though).

I lied about other things on their too and I know what my reasons were at the time for doing that, but that's irrelevant to this conversation.

After I was diagnosed with schizoid and AsPD, sure. I wanted to understand them better. I looked at all the disorders briefly. I didn't really do 'research' per se. I just did a little reading up on them basically.

"People with PTSD often experience feelings of panic or extreme fear, similar to the fear they felt during the traumatic event."
It's not the only way it manifests though. Said fear can itself drive a person to sheer numbness.

"- Re-living the traumatic event – The person relives the event through unwanted and recurring memories, often in the form of vivid images and nightmares. There may be intense emotional or physical reactions, such as sweating, heart palpitations or panic when reminded of the event."
Unless the memory is that strongly repressed, or the person that wildly dissociated, but otherwise yeah, flashbacks and triggers are things for them usually.

"- Being overly alert or wound up – The person experiences sleeping difficulties, irritability and lack of concentration, becoming easily startled and constantly on the lookout for signs of danger."
I'd need to see you in person to really gauge it, but it wouldn't surprise me if this applied to you. Maybe not the "startled" part, but "on the lookout for danger" fits the "dog eat dog world" view you carry, among other possible factors.

"- Avoiding reminders of the event – The person deliberately avoids activities, places, people, thoughts or feelings associated with the event because they bring back painful memories."
Some instead constantly relive it as a form of self-destructive obsession.

"I doubt any psychologist in their right mind would confuse PTSD for sociopathy, or vice versa."
You'd be surprised, some manifestations of PTSD can look similar depending on how the individual operated prior to the damage itself, and both of them can root from a young age trauma. I'd venture to say the two could be confused for eachother, especially if the one afflicted only portrays outwardly the symptoms that could be confused for ASPD. I'd argue a person who is post traumatic could become disconnected enough from themselves that they are otherwise functioning as a Pseudo-ASPD of sorts.

Now Psychopathy and PTSD, I could see where confusing those two would likely have to be from a lack of information.


"There are some significant differences between schizoid PD, AsPD and psychopathy."
There are, but I'd also venture that a mixture of Schizoid Personality and suggestions from those in the field if not the WebMD effect could have one believe they are a sociopath, especially since enough traits between them either cross or can appear as each other if not looked at closely enough. Schizoid itself is prone to building an internal fantasy world, and said fantasy world affects their behaviors since it can also affect their beliefs. Why couldn't said fantasy be the desire to be ASPD, and why couldn't said fantasy be unconsciously followed as if it were instead a fact?

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There are, but I'd also venture that a mixture of Schizoid Personality and suggestions from those in the field if not the WebMD effect could have one believe they are a sociopath, especially since enough traits between them either cross or can appear as each other if not looked at closely enough.

I seriously doubt that. Some sociopathic traits could be explained by schizoid PD, sure, but certainly not all of them. The two personality disorders can overlap in the sense that they can co-exist, but it would be very unlikely for someone to confuse sociopathy with schizoid PD if you look at things like serious criminal behavior, sexual promiscuity, poor behavioral controls and many short term relationships in particular combined. Those traits are not schizoid related in any way.

Schizoid itself is prone to building an internal fantasy world, and said fantasy world affects their behaviors since it can also affect their beliefs. Why couldn't said fantasy be the desire to be ASPD, and why couldn't said fantasy be unconsciously followed as if it were instead a fact?

Schizoids know the difference between fantasy and reality. It doesn't affect their behavior, nor does it affect their beliefs. It's like dreaming. I'm pretty sure most people's dreams don't affect their behavior or beliefs either.

Why would a schizoid, who already has shallow affect, desire to be AsPD?

AsPD is basically a self-destructive personality disorder. If people really knew the negative impact it can have on your life, they would know it is not something to be desired or admired.