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What is a Sociopath?

Err, I crossed parts out once I saw the mix up, so I'm going to skim over the fantasy responses since that mistake on my part was already noted.

...wow, that's a lot of skipping.

"A pathological liar is someone who lies to get his way. They are manipulative, crafty, and usually have a goal in mind when they lie. They have no concern for the feelings of others, even of those people who are close to them."
Until the "no concern" line (and possibly nixing the crafty quality), yeah, that's people.

I was figuring it was just a compulsion towards lying, which I'd argue is far more common than not.

"And sometimes I'll tell someone I'm going to do something knowing full well that I had no intentions of doing it."
Oh... we know~

"To me, sexual promiscuity relates to having casual sex with people you're not in a committed relationship with."
And go figure, such a setup would have you be able to avoid both negative and positive emotions, emotional intimacy, and self disclosure.

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by Turncoat

"And sometimes I'll tell someone I'm going to do something knowing full well that I had no intentions of doing it."
Oh... we know~

No, you really don't. I'm still going ahead with the plans I have in the future in the US.

 

"To me, sexual promiscuity relates to having casual sex with people you're not in a committed relationship with."
And go figure, such a setup would have you be able to avoid both negative and positive emotions, emotional intimacy, and self disclosure.

That's only the one night stands I mentioned. I've also been in 9 relationships. Admittedly, most of them didn't last long though for different reasons. I get bored of being with the same person for too long.

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by Tryptamine

Here's something I wrote on this topic when someone asked a similar question:

Throughout history, it has been recognized that there exists a subset of people who do not show impairment in rational thought, yet behave in an immoral or amoral manner. One of the earliest accounts of this phenomenon that survives is from Theophrastus, who was a student of Aristotle.

"The Unscrupulous Man will go and borrow more money from a creditor he has never paid…When marketing he reminds the butcher of some service he has rendered him and, standing near the scales, throws in some meat, if he can, and a soup-bone. If he succeeds, so much the better; if not, he will snatch a piece of tripe and go off laughing."

Today, deviant forms of personality are categorized according to the current paradigms of psychology and neuroscience. Our abnormal psychologists would say that Theophrastus's "unscrupulous man" exhibited symptoms of an antisocial personality disorder. Psychologists believe that people with AsPD incurred insults during the growth of their personalities which taught them to relate to society in an adversarial manner. AsPD is a diagnosis given to those whom it is believed have had such a course of development.

Sociopathy, psychopathy, and AsPD are often used synonymously in the field of psychology. The word psychopath is derived from the Greek words psykhe and pathos, meaning "mind" and "suffering/disease" respectively, implying that antisocial condition is a disease of the mind. Sociopathy was a term invented later to describe antisocials; the 'socio' prefix emphasized the theory at the time that antisociality was a conditioned way of relating to society. Eventually psychology came to develop the notion of personality disorders, and 'sociopath' became AsPD in The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders.

However, it is recognized that not all people who behave antisocially do so because life circumstances have conditioned them that way. This recognition is where our modern ideas of psychopathy originate from. Current theories state that psychopaths do not emotionally relate to others because of differences in their genetic makeup. People with antisocial personality disorder had the potential for normal personality development, but it was disrupted. In neuroscience and some circles of psychology, psychopathy is understood to be 'primary psychopathy', and 'sociopathy/ASPD' is understood to be 'secondary psychopathy.' These distinctions are important, and there is plenty of empirical data which demonstrates why, such as this:

Areas of reduced gray matter volume in the temporal pole (above) and medial prefrontal cortex (below) and areas of the brains of the psychopathic group of antisocial men (ASPD+P) compared to the non-psychopathic group of antisocial men (ASPD-P).

http://archpsyc.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=1149316

 what about a victim of abuse that has a psychopathy gene there would be plenty of psychopaths(primary) out there who suffered a lot of abuse from their genetic psychopath parent

at what point do you call them aspd/sociopath or psychopath.. you would need a different diagnosis entirely

what about 1 psychopath parent and 1 asperger parent having a child.. both psychopathy and aspergers are equal to aspd in the way that the damage/flaw is in a different area of the brain

and when the child is being created the sperm and egg is creating the baby brain based on both the psychopath and the asperger

 

this is why a lot of psychologists, psychiatrists and other doctors are wanting to have brain scans as a mandatory way of officially diagosing people

 

plot twist

a human that has a psychopath parent and an asperger parent that suffered a lot of abuse from both of them

 

 

so other than a brainscan how can we truly know who is what anymore when psychopathy is in one area of the brain and aspd is in another area and asperger is in a completely different area of the brain would the child still end up as a sociopath? regardless of his parents genes or would the child like rolling a dice be born only asperger and only psychopath and never end up a sociopath?

and without a brainscan basically every test and diagnosis is inaccurate/invalid

this is why people need to just accept everyone for being different let go of your hate

the moral of the story

dexter is created

the weird person that has the asperger father and psychopath mother who suffered abuse to be a new form of sociopath(a kind that selectively cares about your problems while occasionally missunderstanding some others)

basically go fuck your self psychology is ridiculous bullshit designed to divide and conquoer the human species and manipulate them to be puppets of the illuminati forcing you away from love to think in a left brained mannar

 

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as a popular psychology quote goes; if you study humans long enough you end up thinking everyone is insane there is no such thing as "normal"

 

 

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"what about a victim of abuse that has a psychopathy gene there would be plenty of psychopaths(primary) out there who suffered a lot of abuse from their genetic psychopath parent"

This is correct. Think of it this way: There are a set of genes cause a person to develop to be a goal-oriented, single-minded, and self-centered person. If you get many of those genes together, you'll have a "psychopath", regardless of whatever upbringing they have. And there is a spectrum from "typical" genetics to "psychopatic" genetics, where you have latent tendencies toward either genetic sets being activated. What happens to you during your life can determine what set gets turned on, if you lie somewhere between normal guy and psychopath.

"at what point do you call them aspd/sociopath or psychopath.. you would need a different diagnosis entirely"

A psychologist calls them based on symptoms. Scientists focus on empiricism. The importance of a label is relative to what you're trying to classify or understand.

"so other than a brainscan how can we truly know who is what anymore when psychopathy is in one area of the brain and aspd is in another area and asperger is in a completely different area of the brain would the child still end up as a sociopath? regardless of his parents genes"

What do you mean? Could you give a theoretical example?

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About PTSD...

PTSD is sort of sort in its infancy, or maybe it became a toddler by now. At first it was only used for people mentally damaged at war. Seeing that it was seen that other situations could cause a similar response, like violence or accidents. Still some situations were thought not to cause PTSD because the definition was that you had to fear for your life. Finally that was scratched and it was admitted any really traumatic situation could cause this. (Like wow... some things you need to be an expert not to understand.)

It was suggested that c-PTSD would be added to DSM. Of course it didn't happen because then they have to deal even more with the messy cause of illness, which they rather not do, but just symptoms. Thing i c-PTSD is probably very different from PTSD and squeezing it into PTSD can be a bad match.

Why? Because there is a huge difference growing up to be a normal adult and then have something happen to you, and to actually grow up with constant trauma which might cause c-PTSD. C-PTSD is much more likely to shape how you relate to others, to disconnect from your body (the reason most super obese people have this), dissociating (because you grow up with nowhere to run), being passive and dependent (learned helplessness) and maybe even form a impulse based type of functioning.

Still, a lot with c-PTSD actually do have the shame and depression that comes with PTSD. So there I think the mixup with "sociopathy" stops.

I think RAD is much more likely to be confused with sociopathy than c-PTSD. 

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"as a popular psychology quote goes; if you study humans long enough you end up thinking everyone is insane there is no such thing as "normal""

So true.

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