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Sociopathy, alcoholism and AA (first post)


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Howdy, folks. First post.

I'll do my best not to bore you with unnecessary details. Long story short, I'm a relatively normal (everything's relative, right?), highly successful adult male, diagnosed sociopath. There's no need to go into details about my childhood or life; suffice it to say they have been typical. I'm also an alcoholic, sober three months now.

Unfortunately, I decided I had to give up drinking because it was causing all manner of unpleasantness and complication in my life, and was damaging my long-term health. Like many alcoholics, sociopathic or otherwise, I decided to go to Alcoholics Anonymous a few days after I stopped drinking. I have unusually poor impulse control in most areas of life,  and felt (still feel) a strong compulsion to drink or get high, so I felt talking to others might strengthen my resolve not to do these things. It has, to some extent. However, the specifics of the AA program present special difficulties for the sociopath. I have a sponsor (a sort of teacher/mentor to guide one through the 12 steps) and we have begun working on step four, which consists of creating a document called a moral inventory. That sounds higher minded than it is: a moral inventory is really just a catalogue of fears and resentments, intended to be analyzed in order to find patterns that lead to excessive drinking. For example, one entry might read something like this: "I am angry at Mr. Jones because his work performance is better than mine, and he might get a promotion I want for myself. This threatens my financial security, my self esteem etc." Alcoholics Anonymous teaches that our festering fears and resentments are the root cause of our drinking.

My sponsor and I have been beating our heads against the wall and against each other trying to get through this step. How does one list one's fears if one is never afraid? My list is comic, almost: it includes things like "I'm afraid the steering in my Jeep will go out before I have a chance to sell it," or "I'm afraid my tobacco use will cause lung cancer." I don't experience fear, or at least I experience it less than others do. I rarely think about fears, and they certainly haven't contributed to my alcoholism. I have to rack my brain for things I "fear" and all I come up with is a list of things I'd rather not happen because they would cause major hassles or inconvenience. Resentments are even tougher. I've never born a grudge against anyone; it would never occur to me to do so as no one has ever, or could ever hurt my feelings. When people become angry with me, I don't respond with anger but usually lose interest in them- after all, people who are angry are unlikely to be useful to me or enjoyable to be around. People with whom I have had disagreements are quickly and completely forgotten. Occasionally in my life, I have been surprised to learn that people have been very angry with me for a long time because of some minor incident or remark that I didn't even notice or recall. I simply do not get angry: I get irritated and bored and move on. 

I do feel that AA is helping me, and have been told ad nauseam that sitting in meetings isn't enough, that one has to work the steps in order to have the best chance of staying sober. However, I feel that I am being asked to analyze and classify emotions that simply don't have any place in my mind. Jealousy? Please. When I want something, I take it or purchase its equivalent, or (rarely) destroy it so no one else can have it If it cannot be shared. Insecurity? Don't make me laugh. I'm secure in every way, and if I weren't I would earn or perhaps steal until I was. No big deal. I'm not motivated by such emotions, and I don't really understand what is even meant by such terms. My sponsor insists my drinking is caused by fears and insecurities and resentments, which simply isn't the case. I drank because I was bored, because it was pleasurable, because drinking provides a steady stream of casual sex partners (of either gender) and because I have too much time and money money. Mostly, though, because I was bored.

in any case, I'll cut off the stream of verbal diarrhea now because it could last forever. I would really like to hear from sociopaths who have suffered from addiction or have specific experience with AA. I don't doubt that I want to stay sober, but I am beginning to doubt this program has much value for persons like ourselves. My apologies for the poor writing, as I'm not bothering to revise.

Choakumchild

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Sociopathy, alcoholism and AA (first post)

Make stuff up?

I'm trying to drink less (not stop necessarily) myself. There is no real cause for my drinking, it's just something I enjoy a lot. It's harder to slow down when the only reason why you're stopping is for health and behavioral reasons; I could only imagine what it would be like if I told myself "absolutely no more." I think I have some idea of what you're going through. If you feel this program will help you attain your goal, why not just make up stories that sound like everyone else's?

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Sociopathy, alcoholism and AA (first post)

I think you should make up your own plan on how to get away from it.

There's no use in following these steps since they don't apply to your way of thinking. You spotted boredom and low impulse control as the problems so try figuring out how you can handle them.

And besides that AA is a scam, try Narconon instead ;)

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by Tryptamine

Make stuff up?

I'm trying to drink less (not stop necessarily) myself. There is no real cause for my drinking, it's just something I enjoy a lot. It's harder to slow down when the only reason why you're stopping is for health and behavioral reasons; I could only imagine what it would be like if I told myself "absolutely no more." I think I have some idea of what you're going through. If you feel this program will help you attain your goal, why not just make up stories that sound like everyone else's?

 

That's the obvious approach, yes. I've already done some of that regarding my "higher power," being a person with no interest in religion or spirituality. However, the program relies on honesty and I'm worried I will be wasting my time if I just tell people what they want to hear. There is no doubt in my mind that the AA approach works for millions of people, and I want it to work for me as well. I'm not above telling a few little lies of convenience in order to smooth things along, but if I'm wholesale dishonest, what is the point? I want the benefits of this program and am willing to do the work, and I'm convinced my best chance lies in honesty. However, I'm stymied. Like you, I just drink because I like it. I'm not running away from anything or looking to drown my sorrows in a bottle (not to say sorrow is something I have any experience with). No one seems to believe me when I tell them this. Everyone tells me drinking is related to self-esteem, or insecurity or stress or some other deep and hurtful emotional problem. I'm sure this is true for many people, but I'm doubtful it is of me. 

In any case, if you ever feel the need, check out AA. At the very least, you'll hear some crazy stories. I don't think it works for everyone, but it works for many. Purely for reference and comparison, I was drinking 10-20 drinks almost nightly before I decided to quit, enough to cause delirium tremens in the morning, high blood pressure and occasional arrhythmia. Those were the things that opened my eyes and made me decide to stop. Plus, I smoke, which also greatly increases the chance of cardiovascular diseases. I just needed to stop. There is a small possibility I may be able to drink again, but past experience indicates I lack the self control to stop at one (or ten) drinks.

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by ret

I think you should make up your own plan on how to get away from it.

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And besides that AA is a scam, try Narconon instead ;)

 

Maybe so. I'm still not convinced I can't do it on my own, but was looking for an easier, more programmatic method.

 

As for Narconon, I've been to a meeting or two, but I like the AA vibe better, although both have a kind of ridiculous New Age-y psychobabble quality to them and are cultish. It's the same people in both meetings anyway. 

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Does the program offer anything more than self-discovery of what troubles led you to drinking? It seems like if there is a support system, you could be dishonest about your "problems", yet remain frank about the bottom line: your alcohol consumption? Possibly try honest initially and just say you love the way drinking feels, but you know that it's bad for you, and that's your only problem?

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by Tryptamine

Does the program offer anything more than self-discovery of what troubles led you to drinking? It seems like if there is a support system, you could be dishonest about your "problems", yet remain frank about the bottom line: your alcohol consumption? Possibly try honest initially and just say you love the way drinking feels, but you know that it's bad for you, and that's your only problem?

 

It does offer a support system, in the sense that you meet a lot of people who don't drink and appreciate what you're going through, and you can all other members at any hour if you feel like you are going to drink. I've become somewhat active with the young people's group here and have had a ton of fun camping, cooking out, watching movies, gambling etc. I think I've benefited from socializing without alcohol and I've met some very interesting people. Plus, and I'd be lying by omission if I didn't say it, there is a ton of casual sex happening. Alcoholics in recovery are frisky folks.

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Sociopathy, alcoholism and AA (first post)

Nice. Do what you gotta do to keep on with it, I think being around people who are on the same page is the way to do it.

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by Choakumchild

 As for Narconon, I've been to a meeting or two, but I like the AA vibe better, although both have a kind of ridiculous New Age-y psychobabble quality to them and are cultish. It's the same people in both meetings anyway. 

 That was supposed to be a joke :D

Narconon belongs to Scientology

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Sociopathy, alcoholism and AA (first post)

make it work for you

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