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by Turncoat

And you're sure it's not Munchausen or Hypochondriasis?

 I'm not sure its not Munchausen Syndrome, though I am sure its not Hypochondriasis. I definitely don't present new symptoms, nor do old ones really go away. Honestly, these diagnoses are part of why I'm going somewhere else, though I might have to pay in cash. It's frustrating. I just want to learn to get through life without conflicts with people, and this place I go to for groups just gives everyone every label they can to try to turn them into adult children. Then they wonder why everyone there gets so dependant on them.

Suprisingly though, the diagnoses above aren't really all that far off from what I was diagnosed with in the past. Most of it based on how I acted. They said I had anger issues and was verbally abusive. Among other things.

I'm pretty set on Covert Narcissism. 

by Systematic

I'm pretty set on Covert Narcissism. 

 Not to be ironic, but are you referring to me or you?

Myself.

Most would put me next to Systematic, with covert narcissism. However, I lack some common/fundamental traits of narcissism, strangely contradicting the implications of the "intensity" with which it apparently shows to others. Depression is not even a possibility, nor has public humiliation ever been an issue, even though a narcissist is generally very vulnerable to each of these things. What most people think of me only really applies when I want something, while, for a narcissist, it would apply at all times for emotional satisfaction.

Apparently, I score high for Factor 1 traits/ Primary psychopathy, but quite low for Factor 2 traits/secondary psychopathy (At least, in the case of secondary psychopathy, I score much lower than most noted psychopaths do).

I have fundamental characteristics of each that manifest themselves constantly, but I also have traits that contradict the fundamentals of each.

I lack the hostile background that would be associated with psychopathy. The manifestation of the Factor 1 traits without the Factor 2 traits could be the result of brain-damage over the last many years, from an unknown cause. Or it could be from a definite prevalence of most of the genetic pre-requisites for psychopathy, without the early-developmental activation from a hostile environment (So, as my life goes on, the genetic pre-requisites are activating, diminishing affective and social aspects of the brain).

The possibilities are as follows: I am a neurotypical person that over-analyzes themselves too much; I am a person who is considered mostly a classic psychopath (All/most Factor 1 traits from genetics, and little/no Factor 2 traits from environmental factors); Or I am a person who is so blindly narcissistic, that they are incapable of the negative defense/coping mechanisms associated with attacks on the ego.

I've almost stopped caring at this point, though. All I know is I want to go to a lawless country and experiment with true freedom, in all aspects you could think of.

There are places where you could live off the grid. However, unless you have accesses to resources $, i can't imagine you could be too lawless.

by TheLeviathan

I am a person who is considered mostly a classic psychopath (All/most Factor 1 traits from genetics, and little/no Factor 2 traits from environmental factors)

If you have very few to no traits at all on factor 2, then I seriously doubt you're a psychopath. The traits from Factor 1 AND 2 are what makes a psychopath what they are. Of course, you don't have to have all of the traits on both factors, but you would certainly have to have the majority of them to be considered psychopathic. Thus, the reason you need a score of 30 or above on the PCL-R to fit the profile.

It has been quite obvious to me that some known psychopaths (aside from the large amount of killing) have more meticulous, and less impulsive tendencies, implying a significantly lower score for Factor 2 traits than most others. I also thought that one of the differences between a sociopath and a psychopath were a difference in Factor 2 traits, implying the diminished functionality (socially) in the sociopath due to increased Factor 2 traits, and increased functionality in psychopaths because of a decrease in Factor 2 traits. An example would be the psychopaths that led normal family lives along-side their homicidal lives. I'd imagine they'd have scored low on Factor 2, and would've certainly been labeled psychopaths instead of sociopaths, on account of their social functionality.

Factor 1 on the PCL-R apparently contains the core personality traits of psychopathy, but it also correlates strongly with Narcissistic Personality Disorder. If you have a lot of NPD traits and no AsPD traits at all, then I imagine you would be considered a narcissist, rather than a psychopath because, as far as I am aware, every psychopath also has AsPD (that's not to say that everyone with AsPD also has psychopathy).