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Are you influenced by charming people?

"Does one have to be manipulated by charm just because one notices that someone is charming?"
...technically yes, but the reason why is irrelevant (the fact they see them as charming manipulates them to label them as such).

"That doesn't mean they can make me do things."
You just keep on thinking that.

"I like to spend time with people who are charming and intelligent."
And that manipulates you to seek them out, to prefer them, to flock towards them.

You are passively manipulated to seek out charming people, and it affects the sort of people you allow yourself to be surrounded with. Just because you're not being directly controlled or commanded doesn't mean you aren't being guided, or even pulled.

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"That doesn't mean they can make me do things." You just keep on thinking that.

I will. ;)

"I like to spend time with people who are charming and intelligent."And that manipulates you to seek them out, to prefer them, to flock towards them.

You are passively manipulated to seek out charming people, and it affects
the sort of people you allow yourself to be surrounded with. Just
because you're not being directly controlled or commanded doesn't mean
you aren't being guided, or even pulled.

 

I'm not saying it can't be like that, but I don't think it is. I meet people who become my friends/acquaintances, in quite random ways. I have basically exchanged all my friends. The people I hang out with the most now, I've only known for a few years.

I have also noticed some strange things, and that is that many people I know are like me in many ways. They have similar "problems", "conditions" or whatever one wants to call it. This can get annoying... One guy I've only met two or three times, is like me to an extreme degree. He has done things for me on his own accord for me also. But now I'm writing too much. Have to go to bed. Goodnight!

 

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At least no one is immune to lying. Some people claim they can see through people's lies. That only works with people who aren't very good at lying. A person who doesn't think it is anything wrong to lie (or to bend the truth a little) and also mixes truth with made up things all the time, is basically impossible to detect. This being said, some people who think they are good liars aren't really. They can lie without showing signs of nervousness but they do make mistakes, like e.g. using two different explanations for the same thing. I also get a "feel" for when someone is trying to con me. If I get conned, it is because I want to be in a way. That I'm willing to take the risk even though I've noticed the signs. Those who display none of these signs (and I know what to look for) I can't detect. Actually, no one can.

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why do you want to be conned? so naive it actually hurts my head.

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I expressed it wrongly perhaps. It is that I have sensed something could be wrong, but I'm still willing to take the chance. In some situations there are few options.

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"At least no one is immune to lying. Some people claim they can see through people's lies. That only works with people who aren't very good at lying."
How much have you looked into micro-expressions? Tells? Or are those only displayed from people "who aren't very good at lying" as far as you're concerned?

Do you often use yourself as a median line of sorts for quality?

"A person who doesn't think it is anything wrong to lie (or to bend the truth a little) and also mixes truth with made up things all the time, is basically impossible to detect."
The awareness of trying to be less than genuine tends to have signs and symptoms, even with truth being mixed in. Someone who doesn't think it's wrong to lie is likely skilled at it from sheer experience.

"like e.g. using two different explanations for the same thing."
I'm not sure that I follow what you mean here. Do you mean when a liar is inconsistent with his or her stories?

"I also get a "feel" for when someone is trying to con me."
Trusting a feeling without learning more about it strikes me as reckless.

"If I get conned, it is because I want to be in a way."
...what a strange choice of excuse for explaining to yourself why you get conned sometimes...

"Those who display none of these signs (and I know what to look for) I can't detect. Actually, no one can."
If you can't do it, clearly no one can.

Sound logic.

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wrongly indeed. would you believe me if i told you that you know nothing about yourself, or others? how old are you?

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Are you influenced by charming people?

charming people are great people. they are pleasant, therefor i like to be around them.

 

i do not trust charming or non-charming people all the same, charm has nothing to do with trust. its just pleasant. i am saying this, since people make connections between charm and trust. which makes no sense to me.

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No, I wouldn't because it isn't true. I'm older than I seem.

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I don't feel like answering lots of questions. No one can tell if I'm lying as far as I know. Even the people who has known me for life have to guess, hence I've been accused of lying when I told the truth. I sometimes can tell if people lie, sometimes I can't. If it's people I know and I'm in doubt I push them until they reveal the truth or do it in other ways. Or more often I just pretend not to notice... Also when people tell me the most crazy or unbelievable things, I just go along with their story and discuss it sincerely.

To tell the truth, I don't lie very often. When I have to I just make up a story to fit the occasion. Sometimes it's more right/fitting to tell such a story, so I don't feel guilty about it. I do not like to be caught lying, but as I wrote it never happens. Sometimes people catch on to it, but that's because I said it in a joking tone of voice on purpose. Then it was something that wasn't important...

Also, I can't really understand why people find it hard to lie. It's not a big deal, and it's necessary sometimes.

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