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Is it possible to have a fully developed moral code without any concept of right and wrong?

For example instead of saying "killing people is wrong," you say "I don't want to be the type of person who kills another person."

What's the difference between trying to follow a higher moral code vs creating an ideal self image and trying to live up to it?

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The Golden Mean

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by hypercube

Is it possible to have a fully developed moral code without any concept of right and wrong?

 

 

I don't think so.

 

 

For example instead of saying "killing people is wrong," you say "I don't want to be the type of person who kills another person."

 

 

Depends on the reasoning behind that. It is moral.

 

 

What's the difference between trying to follow a higher moral code vs creating an ideal self image and trying to live up to it?

 

The moral code is true the productivity and good for us all. 

Creating an ideal self image and living up to it can be in sync with the moral code, or not. The difference, is when it is not. 

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The problem is defining right and wrong in a particular environment (take this one for example)

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"The moral code is true the productivity and good for us all."

That's interesting.  Is that saying that morality = creation and immorality = destruction?

Related tangent, which is the most moral: intent, action, or result?

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by hypercube

"The moral code is true the productivity and good for us all."

That's interesting.  Is that saying that morality = creation and immorality = destruction?

Related tangent, which is the most moral: intent, action, or result?

 

It's saying Morality = prosperity.

Moral and immoral. Negative and positive, up and down. Creation and destruction. In essence one does make it's opposite, but none will be able to say which comes first. Though I think if immorality came first, we wouldn't exist.

As for the related tangent question. Neither of those are more moral than the other, as each one may or may not be moral. However, suggesting all 3 of those are moral, then I would say Result>Action>Intent.  

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Really interesting reply, thanks.

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You can have an agreement to make decisions by "consensus" between the parties.

So each party brings in their own values of yes and no, what they agree to and dissent to.

Agree on a process of conflict resolution. And agree what to do where differences prevent reconciliation.

Just agree how to handle differences, and you can manage any system and respect relativity for each person.

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You cant have it, but you can follow it if you have no concept of right and wrong.

Concept of right and wrong = morality

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What would you call having a code of values that isn't based off of right and wrong?  Ethics?

Maybe killing someone was a bad example, but I mean in the sense that you wouldn't say it's objectively "wrong" or "evil" or "immoral" if someone else does it, but you personally don't want to do it.  Not because you think it's "wrong" but because you don't want to be that sort of person.

A better example might be abortion, I've heard a lot of women say that they would never personally have an abortion because of their own morals, but they don't judge anyone else who does.  As opposed to women who say they would never have an abortion because it's objectively "wrong" to have one.

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