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Science has always been about tampering with the unknown, so that we may glean its secrets. Nuclear weapons are a technological threat to our whole existence, but that's about it. Every other scientific discovery we have made has pushed humanity forward.

While I maintain that the U.S. is not nearly in as bad a situation as you claim (what facts do you have to back this up with?) I feel I have to point out that the fall of the United States can not be equaled to the fall of humanity. When the Byzantine Empire finally crumbled it did so to the Ottoman Turks, who ruled a vastly superior empire to that of the late "Romans".

I'm not concerned with the fall of humanity. I'm more concerned with life as we no it, in America. Look at the internal combustion engine. We have been improveing on the same basic concept since the late 19th century. We are now at a point that we can not extract any more efficency out of the basic design.

There are many different alternative energy sources out there but they also come with a price. Its going to be a long time before we can adopt a new power source that will be usable by all for a price we can all aford.

We need a miracle. We need a never before thought of technology that will take us to the next lvl. All of our technologys are of a old design that we have just made more efficent. This is why I believe we are at our peak.

by whoameye

I'm not concerned with the fall of humanity. I'm more concerned with life as we no it, in America.

Well, you did predict the fall of humanity in your earlier posts, no?

And why limit yourself to America? You switch interchangeably between humanity and America as if the two are equal.

Look at the internal combustion engine. We have been improveing on the same basic concept since the late 19th century. We are now at a point that we can not extract any more efficency out of the basic design.

What's wrong with squeezing out as much as you can from a certain technology before moving on? Humanity survived fine with horse and carriage for a pretty long time. Why the sudden need for a monumental technological jump forward?

We need a miracle. We need a never before thought of technology that will take us to the next lvl. All of our technologys are of a old design that we have just made more efficent. This is why I believe we are at our peak.

The problem with America today is its economy, not technology. The problem(s) that the world faces and will face is its economy (ever-growing population and its drain on resources) and possibly climate change.

It seems to me that you're worried the U.S. won't be the top dog in the world anymore, which is quite another topic.

Not being concerned with the fall of humanity is the very thing that's causing America to be left behind. The world has shifted, the frontier mentality and the idea of American exceptionalism is becoming outdated, it's fallen victim to technology that links the globe and promotes collectivism over individualism.

America is still one of the leaders of technological development, especially when it comes to military technology, but it needs to let go of the idea of ruling the globe and invest more into domestic growth, and strengthening the North American continent as a whole so that the desperate poverty and drug crimes of Mexico are cured. You can't just build a fence to keep out cultural rot.

Technology tends to fall into broad categories, and everything is built on what came before it to make it more efficient. A car is the improvement of the horse carriage, the horse carriage was a combination of the litter and the chariot, trace it back to the invention of the wheel and it's the same idea, just modified and improved. Science isn't just thinking of random miracles, it's building on what is already known. I disagree that the efficiency of any design can't be improved, because I see the design in broad strokes where the engine isn't the specific design of that engine, but the concept of "convert fuel into power and apply to cause motion," and of course that can be improved. In broad strokes, a horse was fuel for a carriage, slaves were fuel for a litter, and the sun is fuel for solar power. It's always the basic concept, and it's always being improved.

I'm only concerned with things that affect me. The United States affects me. Back in the day when horses were our means of transportation. Natural resources were not a concern. Because of our technology cap and our depleting natural resources. We don't have another 100 or 200 years to ride it out like we did when horses were our means of transportation.

Economy and technology go hand and hand. The climate change is man made because of our technology.

Yes and no to your question of the United States staying top dog. We are in a Sociopath forum I don't care if the rest of the world crumbles and dies, as long as it dosen't affect me and my way of life. Sorry if that sounds selfish of me. Actually i'm not sorry

by Synthetic

Not being concerned with the fall of humanity is the very thing that's causing America to be left behind. The world has shifted, the frontier mentality and the idea of American exceptionalism is becoming outdated, it's fallen victim to technology that links the globe and promotes collectivism over individualism.

America is still one of the leaders of technological development, especially when it comes to military technology, but it needs to let go of the idea of ruling the globe and invest more into domestic growth, and strengthening the North American continent as a whole so that the desperate poverty and drug crimes of Mexico are cured. You can't just build a fence to keep out cultural rot.

Technology tends to fall into broad categories, and everything is built on what came before it to make it more efficient. A car is the improvement of the horse carriage, the horse carriage was a combination of the litter and the chariot, trace it back to the invention of the wheel and it's the same idea, just modified and improved. Science isn't just thinking of random miracles, it's building on what is already known. I disagree that the efficiency of any design can't be improved, because I see the design in broad strokes where the engine isn't the specific design of that engine, but the concept of "convert fuel into power and apply to cause motion," and of course that can be improved. In broad strokes, a horse was fuel for a carriage, slaves were fuel for a litter, and the sun is fuel for solar power. It's always the basic concept, and it's always being improved.

I agree with most of what you said. I don't think we have the time for a hydrogen concept fuel source or a electric power source or even solar power. They are all a long ways away from being affordable by the masses. We will run out of resources by then.

The U.S. won't collapse within the next 10 years, which is what you make it sound like. It'll in all likelihood be at minimum a contender for being top dog in the world for many years to come.

How humanity and the U.S. fares in 100 years I don't know, but that could hardly be a worry to you given you're going to be dead by that time.

lucky for us, we have illness, old age, war, murder, and commit suicide on a daily basis along with animal attacks and natural disasters and people just being clumsy. our population is less than what is depicted. there is no way to account for ever human on the planet, because not everyone is accounted for.

by Inquirer

The U.S. won't collapse within the next 10 years, which is what you make it sound like. It'll in all likelihood be at minimum a contender for being top dog in the world for many years to come.

How humanity and the U.S. fares in 100 years I don't know, but that could hardly be a worry to you given you're going to be dead by that time.

I'm sorry my views are not identical to yours. That there was my opinion. And yes I should have used a word other than humanity. When I was just speeking of America.

No problem. Voiced opinions are going to be debated on this forum though.