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by Daddy

It could be argued that sympathy without empathy is fake and empathy without sympathy is callous

Now I'm having one hell of a time trying to process what empathy without sympathy would be like, exactly...  

If you feel someone's pain (empathy), yet don't particularly care (sympathy), why do you feel their pain?  Unless this is some sort of sadist/masochist thing?  It hurts so good to... empathize with them?

I think my mind just exploded.

You're not a psychopath, Daddy. You never have been. So, trying to prove yourself here won't make an ounce of difference.

You're just an emotional idiot who thinks he's a psychopath.

Maybe if you wish hard enough on a falling star you might become one if you're real lucky.

Is daddy the only one that believes he is smart ? Sometimes you have to take your blinders off to see the whole picture daddy.

Tunnel vision will only hinder your ability to succeed in life. Its ok to be wrong from time to time. Makeing mistakes is how you

learn. Not everything can be taught in books.

It is a good thing you posted that but it is still only one publication you are basing your opinion on. I posted the publication in the other thread, and because this thread is still lacking it, I will post it again here. http://brain.oxfordjournals.org/content/136/8/2550.full

You should always go to the source. Media tends to warp the story. I
checked the study and it didn't seem to have any obvious flaws other
than the limited number of subjects diagnosed with psychopathy.If
this is the only study that found sociopaths having empathy, then it
doesn't mean aything. There are so many things that can go wrong that
you can't trust an article if there are no other independent studies
making similar findings. If you do, you are cherry picking the
statistics.

Why THE FUCK is this thought into so much. CLEARLY there are a lot of variables that can come into play. It is not difficult to grasp, if you give it some thought.

Because some people like to think. They prefer thinking over not thinking.

There's such a thing as over thinking.

And yet that is not enough to make them care about people nor greatly empathize with them. Empathy is a spectrum feel. Even non-psychopathic people may not be very empathic.

Hahaha I love how spastic Daddy went on this thread.

I'll quote this guy in the battle of quotes:

by Bile

He posted three articles that were explaining one publication/study: http://brain.oxfordjournals.org/lookup/doi/10.1093/brain/awt190

You should always go to the source. Media tends to warp the story. I checked the study and it didn't seem to have any obvious flaws other than the limited number of subjects diagnosed with psychopathy.

If this is the only study that found sociopaths having empathy, then it doesn't mean aything. There are so many things that can go wrong that you can't trust an article if there are no other independent studies making similar findings. If you do, you are cherry picking the statistics.

 So Jay, you're very convinced what you're saying is true despite it not being the general take of psychiatrists yet. I imagine that's only because you relate to those claims, you studied yourself and identified that switch you keep talking about.

I think you have to first hand experience both cognitive and emotional empathy to understand what each one means. Because they really are different. So tell me, was there any time you EMOTIONALLY empathized with someone? I mean actually feel sad when someone else was feeling sad. Or noticed someone in distress and FELT like helping them. Not that "I helped them because they could prove useful to me someday" or "I put myself in other people's shoes to manipulate them better muahaha" crap.

It would be simple enough to check, since they only instructed the prisoner group (the psychopaths) to empathize with what they were being shown (the hands) it could be tried by anybody. 

Just sit through an emotional video and try to empathize with the person in the video.

Do you feel a difference?

I tried with a beheading video and even though I thought that it must suck to die like this, I still didn't care about the victim and I wasn't feeling emotional at all and I was, as ever, fascinated by the brutality associated with decapitating someone.