by Daddyand I never claimed to be a psychopath...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9sUVrVS4co
Here's an article that you should read: http://io9.com/5933869/stop-calling-sherlock-a-sociopath-thanks-a-psychologist
I can see why you relate to Sherlock so much now. He's like you in some ways and neither of you are sociopaths.
I'm pretty sure Observation is insinuating that you see Jay as a dog, and that you keep kicking him around, or at least believe yourself to be.
After the statement about people mocking TK, some might see it as ironic you'd perform in the very fashion you were criticizing toward another user, with those two quotes side by side at least.
Here's an article that you should read: http://io9.com/5933869/stop-calling-sherlock-a-sociopath-thanks-a-psychologist
That was an interesting article but I don't agree with the author. Everything between brackets is a quote from the article.
First she starts with: [no actual psychopath-or sociopath, if you (or Holmes) will-would ever admit to his psychopathy.] but that's stupid there are circumstances where an actual sociopath would admit to being one be it directly (for example on the 'net) or indirectly (by taking psychiatric tests for instance).
At one point she says that [a sociopath does not apologize]. But that's stupid they do if that's part of their mask.
Then she proceed to write this: ["For empathy, we need look no further than his reaction to Watson's wound in "The Three Garridebs," ("You're not hurt, Watson? For God's sake, say that you are not hurt!")] but she doesn't take into account that he needs Watson and could be feigning concern for him. Plus he faked his own death and disappeared for two years without any concern for the feelings of anybody, that's pretty cold and callous if you ask me.
She thinks that [on the interpersonal dimension, we can dismiss pathological deception out of hand] for Holmes but he's always playing game and running cons.
As for the [flagrant violation of societal rules] she seems to forget that he is drug user. He doesn't care for any social convention except when it suits him to do so.
Even though she mentions that you have to score more than 30 on the PCL-R to be qualified as a sociopath she doesn't seem to take into consideration that it's a spectrum disorder.
So is Sherlock Holmes a sociopath? Honestly I don't know but if the writers (and the character) say he is then he is. It's called the word of god (seriously). It's a show so rules could be different from real life.
Now would he be considered a sociopath if he were a real person? It's not that clear-cut but as I tried to underline he does check some boxes on the PCL-R.
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by Daddyand I never claimed to be a psychopath...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9sUVrVS4coHere's an article that you should read: http://io9.com/5933869/stop-calling-sherlock-a-sociopath-thanks-a-psychologist
I can see why you relate to Sherlock so much now. He's like you in some ways and neither of you are sociopaths.
Yeah, that article pretty much explains it.
by TurncoatI'm pretty sure Observation is insinuating that you see Jay as a dog, and that you keep kicking him around, or at least believe yourself to be.
After the statement about people mocking TK, some might see it as ironic you'd perform in the very fashion you were criticizing toward another user, with those two quotes side by side at least.
How are my discussions with Jay even remotely like the endless pointless "TK is a fat loser!" shit going on in every thread. I don't see this as me kicking Jay around at all. This can't be what observation meant.
First she starts with: [no actual psychopath-or sociopath, if you (or Holmes) will-would ever admit to his psychopathy.] but that's stupid there are circumstances where an actual sociopath would admit to being one be it directly (for example on the 'net) or indirectly (by taking psychiatric tests for instance).
Sherlock is not on any mental health forum or taking psychiatric tests on the show, so the author was obviously only referring to what a sociopath would do outside of those situations, and sociopaths do not normally admit to what they are in the real world.
At one point she says that [a sociopath does not apologize]. But that's stupid they do if that's part of their mask.
You don't know if sherlock was apologizing because he was trying to maintain a mask or if his apology was sincere. The author assumes his apology was sincere and for all you know, it could have been.
Then she proceed to write this: ["For empathy, we need look no further than his reaction to Watson's wound in "The Three Garridebs," ("You're not hurt, Watson? For God's sake, say that you are not hurt!")] but she doesn't take into account that he needs Watson and could be feigning concern for him. Plus he faked his own death and disappeared for two years without any concern for the feelings of anybody, that's pretty cold and callous if you ask me.
If there is no indication in the show that he was feigning concern, then you can only assume he wasn't.
She thinks that [on the interpersonal dimension, we can dismiss pathological deception out of hand] for Holmes but he's always playing game and running cons.
As for the [flagrant violation of societal rules] she seems to forget that he is drug user. He doesn't care for any social convention except when it suits him to do so.
These two I can't argue, because I haven't seen much of the show.
Even though she mentions that you have to score more than 30 on the PCL-R to be qualified as a sociopath she doesn't seem to take into consideration that it's a spectrum disorder.
Yes, but according to Dr Hare, you need to score at least 30 to be considered a psychopath. At least for men anyway. I think it's lower for women (25+ ?). I'm not sure on that though.
So is Sherlock Holmes a sociopath? Honestly I don't know but if the writers (and the character) say he is then he is. It's called the word of god (seriously). It's a show so rules could be different from real life.
The article questions whether or not Sherlock emulates a real life sociopath and in my opinion, and the author's opinion, he does not for the reasons she mentioned.
I believe this is just a ploy to lead the audience into their own interpretation of the various anti-social personality disorders. More over in this specific video they were speculating not diagnosing and beyond that they were trying to be polite.
The other one I posted, was Sherlocks own Diagnosis of himself. That being said Aspergers can co-exist with Sociopathy. One being an autism spectrum disorder and the later a personality disorder (or more accurately a set of traits marking anti-social behavior:disregard for social standards of behavior)
Yep, method acting. You can get close to appearing genuine without it by
spending hours practicing with a mirror, facial references, and a lot
of time spent studying emotions, but method acting is a far easier way
for most people that brings good results.
Exactly.