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On the subject of geneticly superior races

Race is of particular interest to me because of my field of study. 

You are close. 

What upsets me is wilful ignorance. This just so happens to be about race recently in this forum. It's easier to ignore or mock people who are obviously incapable of higher comprehension (I. E. Dex) but I've come to expect better from the rest of a majority of people here. 

You could deliberately and seriously try to put forth that carbon monoxide is good for the environment and I would find it just as appalling and frivolous as the rediculous notion that humanity can be divided into three or four distinct races. If it was coming from someone obviously stupid, or trolling it would be ignorable,  but if it came from someone who I'm accustomed to hearing reasonable and sensible arguments from,  like hypercube, (who I hold a fair amount of respect for despite our tendancy to disagree on a regular basis) I would find it distressing. 

Comprende? 

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On the subject of geneticly superior races

Thank you! 

At least someone gets it. 

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On the subject of geneticly superior races

I think you may have missed the first part of her post.

"It's undeniable that Asians have higher IQ's on average, and we also know that African Americans need worry less about skin cancer. "

She's going back to race and generalizing in inaccurately broad terms, and she's comparing a genetic trait (melanin production) to a cultural one (IQ). These are indeed two things I've been trying to stress in my posts are unscientific and bigoted ways of thinking. I feel like I've repeated myself five times, so I think I'm entitled to be a little bit snippy. 

Especially when my input had been discredited simply based on the length of my time here rather than the interactions I've had with people after all the work I put into sharing it (not to mention my college degree lol). 

I think if she really gave two shits about this topic,  she would do more research and find that the information I've shared is very much in line with our modern understanding of genetics and culture. However,  some people are just too comfortable with archaic ways of dividing,  labeling and classifying or own kind. 

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On the subject of geneticly superior races

If Luna was reincarnated as a bird, she would most definitely return as the dodo.

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I think it's an objective fact that Americans of East Asian descent tend to score higher on IQ tests than Americans of European descent, who in turn tend to score higher than Americans of African descent. Personally I believe that to be a result of culture, not genetics. It's also true that natives of the African continent tend to produce more melanin than natives of northern geographical locations.

Luna wasn't grouping people into genetic races, she was grouping them into geographical subgroups and pointing out that European dominance is most likely a result of culture being able to flourish in a temperate climate with abundant resources. I agreed with her and pointed out that the location also provided access to trade (the Middle East linking the three distinct geographical areas of Europe, Africa, and Asia) which allowed them to benefit from the ideas of other cultures. Of the three areas, Europe had the best climate and land. Thus explaining progressive European dominance.

Honestly if you don't want to participate in the topic you don't have to, but the second half of Luna's post was more or less reiterating what people with far more impressive degrees than you have argued and published, so maybe you should back off with the personal attacks and actually discuss the content presented.

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On the subject of geneticly superior races

I disagree with your perception of her intent. 

I am discussing and have been discussing this topic for days now. 

I am done repeating myself to you and everyone else. Fuck, man,  I tried. Some people are beyond help. 

If you're actually interested in understanding the truth of the matter you'll re-read and research. If you're not, you are welcome to remain in the dark and discuss your ameuter hypothesis based on early 1900s misconceptions of genetics. 

Peace out, homeslice. 

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On the subject of geneticly superior races

If I remember my studies correctly, isn't the fertile crescent what we now call the Middle East. I don't know if whites came from there. I thought it was mostly Egyptians. As for Asians being superior, hey have the Tiger Moms prodding them to greater achievements.

By the way, I don't think capitalism is a very good thing. Especially now, capitalism is in it's decadent phase and is trending towards fascism.

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I don't care about her intent, I care about the value of the content she presented, which is why I discussed the content she presented.

I'm honestly surprised an anthropologist doesn't have an opinion about Jared Diamond's theories.  His ideas have absolutely nothing to do with 1900's misconceptions of genetics and race. The fact that you would even draw that comparison makes it sound like you're unfamiliar with his work, and if that's the case, just how long ago did you get your degree?

You're free to disagree with the idea that geography influences cultural progress, but there's no need to get so personal.

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On the subject of geneticly superior races

 

by freebehindmymask

If I remember my studies correctly, isn't the fertile crescent what we now call the Middle East. I don't know if whites came from there. I thought it was mostly Egyptians.

 

The "Caucasian" subgroup used in that particular classification system includes Europe, the Middle East, Northern Africa, and a large part of Asia.

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On the subject of geneticly superior races

Taking the conversation in a different direction.

The question becomes then, about mental superiroity. I think it's fair to say that the caucasion world propogated capitalism, and even globalism.  

I think it's generally accepted that capitalism emerged in Northwestern Europe (in primarily protestant societies) in the middle ages. Culture (i.e. religion) had far more influence on the adoption of free market practices than skin colour. RCC laws/beliefs were strict on lending/business operations.  

Below is a graphic which lists the top w.e number of countries in terms of national wealth. I think it's clear these are all caucasion countries with the exception of Japan.

Interesting that the majority of these countries (with the exception of the US) do not have capitalist economies but rather Socialist and/or mixed economies. 

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