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On the subject of geneticly superior races


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Hi everyone,

Earlier there was a multiple page discussion that raised some points on genetic superiority. As a caucasion american female, I sometimes wonder what the dynmic is in terms of race, if any exists at all.

On one hand, I can see how some races might have advantages over others in certain areas. It's undeniable that Asians have higher IQ's on average, and we also know that African Americans need worry less about skin cancer-- so there are some easily pointed out differences between our races.

The question becomes then, about mental superiroity. I think it's fair to say that the caucasion world propogated capitalism, and even globalism. I read somewhere that England has invaded all but like 5 countries on this entire planet throughout it's history. Below is a graphic which lists the top w.e number of countries in terms of national wealth. I think it's clear these are all caucasion countries with the exception of Japan.

 

Japan is really a special case though because of the level and quality of investment that persisted through the 1980s after WW2. Investment in capital equipment, which averaged more than 11% of GNP during the prewar period, rose to about 20% of GNP during the 1950s and to more than 30% in the late 1960s and 1970s. During the economic boom of the late 1980s, the rate still hovered around 20%. Japanese businesses imported the latest technologies to develop the industrial base. As a latecomer to modernization, Japan was able to avoid some of the trial and error earlier needed by other nations to develop industrial processes. In the 1970s and 1980s, Japan improved its industrial base through technology licensing, patent purchases, and imitation and improvement of foreign inventions. In the 1980s, industry stepped up its research and development, and many firms became famous for their innovations and creativity. (source)

S
o Japan can basicly be claimed to be a product of it's early embrace of capitalism after WW2.


On the other hand, is it caucasions who propogated capitalism because they are superior? Or is it because they happened to find themselves in the fertile crecent where food is plentiful, and individuals don't have to allocate the majority of their time surviving thus allowing intellectual pursuits of arts, and new discoveries. 

We can compare this to the peeps in papua new guinea who are almost stuck in time. Due to living in a dense jungle, they cannot grow high yield crops such as wheat or barley, and instead must allocate almost all their time to getting this food. 

 

I'd argue that it's not about our race as much as it is about our luck. The Fertile Crescent was home to the eight Neolithic founder crops important in early agriculture (i.e. wild progenitors to emmer wheat, einkorn, barley, flax, chick pea, pea, lentil, bitter vetch), and four of the five most important species of domesticated animals—cows, goats, sheep, and pigs—and the fifth species, the horse, lived nearby. (source)

 These crops freed up time, and allowed for innovation in all areas of our lives including the development of an economic system which is capable of fascilitating industrial scale production, and which eventually resulted in globalization.

 

 

 

 

 

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Interesting. I'm not  sure if these have to do with genes necessarily or not. Though it would be interesting to see if intelligence really corresponded to ethnicity. Honestly though, I think we tend to try to find a genetic relation to alot of things that may not necessarily be that straight forward.

 

Welcome back Luna!

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If you took the time to read the thread you would have seen my posts that answer this question. I don't understand why people like you constantly refuse to look at the obvious and well supported scientific evidence right in front of their faces. 

So I must assume one of three things, Luna. 

1) you are too lazy to read 

2) you are too stupid to comprehend what you read 

3) you are a bigot that is cemented into a closed minded worldview

I refuse to put in anymore effort explaining these things to you and others since apparently understanding "no,  we are not that different" is too far above your head. 

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yeah, sorry about that, i generally don't place value in the posts of new users. we get a lot of trolls here.

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Well that eliminates #1 and #2...

I suppose that leaves you at #3.

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think as you like 

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by Luna Prey

yeah, sorry about that, i generally don't place value in the posts of new users. we get a lot of trolls here.

You're getting as paranoid as the rest of them, luna. Come on, I thought you were on a higher plane than to be thinking like this.

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I noticed you are programmed to get defensive when people mention race.

Historically, Caucasians are the loudest. Luna said she suggested the British's proven capacity to invade and dominate others is based on luck, as opposed to supremacy. Your opinion of her is clearly bias in correlation with your predigest for those who make mention of topics you've been programmed to be sensitive toward.  

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I do think that the Indo-European climate and resources have contributed to the area's technological and cultural progress. The area has an abundance of useful natural resources, the climate is suitable for a variety of animals (livestock, domesticated dogs for hunting and cats that hunted mice, work animals such as horses), and the soil supports a variety of crops. The geographic location of the Middle East serves as a bridge between Europe, Northern Africa, and Asia, which was why it was historically the center of trade.

If you haven't already read it, you might enjoy Jared Diamond's book "Guns, Germs, and Steel". It gets a bit liberal-preachy at times, but overall gives a good history of this sort of thing.

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It's very unbecoming to start throwing around unprovoked personal attacks in an academic discussion.

Considering that nothing Luna said contradicted anything you said, and she was simply changing the focus to the geographical influence on culture and progress rather than discussing genetics (as you were on the other thread), I have to believe that it's you who either didn't read or didn't understand the point of the OP.

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