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Is Sherlock from the BBC series a convincing sociopath?

Thanks Rass, that looks like an interesting read.

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Is Sherlock from the BBC series a convincing sociopath?

I think that Sherlock is considered (in the BBC version) a sociopath for the sake of eccentricity. I think it's odd how "symptoms" of sociopathy are so specific. 

 

Also, I'd like to include Sherlock hardly ever shuts up. At John's wedding he had quite a long....speech. If you could call it a speech. And the lack of social interaction is because of his dislike of most people, and people dislike him also, vice versa. 

 

To conclude, I will make quite a bold statement. I do not think there are any so-called-disorders such as ADHD, AS, and AD. They are not backed up enough; I need more evidence, more biological fact, and less uncertainty. 

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Is Sherlock from the BBC series a convincing sociopath?

I think that he's a misanthropic schizoid. Should I elaborate or can you perceive such possibility yourself?

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Is Sherlock from the BBC series a convincing sociopath?

I'm not familiar with the Vampire Diaries series, but shouldn't all vampires act as if they were psychopaths? How did he managed to walk under the sunshine? Are you a girl?

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Is Sherlock from the BBC series a convincing sociopath?

It really is a great show, I think you'd appreciate it.

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Is Sherlock from the BBC series a convincing sociopath?

No he's not. It's more likely he's an aspie. The makers of the show are taking his character in the same direction as House (watched like 2-3 episodes of that) and that aspie nerd from Big Bang theory. It's a guaranteed recipe to make the character lovable and fangirled for some reason.

Sherlock's not a socio, he cares too much about Watson, the woman, Mary, etc, he's disgusted by the morally corrupt, he risks his life to help others... He sucks at understanding a lot of human interaction, and I mean it mentally, not emotionally, just like an aspie. Psychos are good at understanding their relationships with others and manipulating them, chances of one being in tears of joy and surprise over finding out they're someone bestie are very small.

Btw, the third season really fucked him up. The Danish psycho pwned him intellectually. Shelly was wrong about the glasses, about the vaults, about tricking the psycho with his drug addiction... He was always one step behind. And then he just pulls a fucking gun like Bruce Willis and shots the dude. Yeah well done Sherlock Holmes. Not even a fair fight, just some pussy shit from his part. The shittiest part is that he shot him right after claiming to be a "high functioning sociopath", how the fuck is that high functioning, shooting a guy in front of gov security. That's a sure thing to fuck up your life, if you don't have a big brother to shamefully get you out of the shit you dug yourself into.

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Is Sherlock from the BBC series a convincing sociopath?

I liked the Danish villain as a character but I think you're misinterpreting the events.

Sherlock didn't pull a gun to have a "fair fight" with someone, he was there to accomplish the specific goal of locating where the data was stored and destroying the hard copy. In this case the hard copy turned out to be the man's brain. So he used the most efficient tool to permanently destroy the data.

By making it seem as though he were in the weaker position, he was able to have the Dane tell him where the data was stored. Kevin Mitnick's book The Art of Deception gives a great overview about how the weakest link in any security system is human error and how that's able to be exploited through social engineering.

I thought it was brilliant and I think you're just being salty that your female friends like him a lot (:

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Is Sherlock from the BBC series a convincing sociopath?

Hah, your third paragraph got me confused until I realised that you were talking about the third season which I haven't watched until today. Finished the first episode and intend to watch the remaining two later this week and I tend to agree that at least in the first episode of the last season Sherlock was rather moody and seemingly attached to his friends. But then again, previously he exhibited misanthropic beliefs (his interaction with Molly and even the disgust for the morally corrupt you mentioned) and schizoid traits (all the talks about how people are boring and so on), so I wouldn't label him as aspie just yet. On a slightly different note, I can't help but notice how the show turned into a comedy from a semi-detective drama genre.

Regarding House, he seems to be rather sociopathic. He's careless, self-destructive, was in a rehab and prison, manipulates his team and boss, disregards rules and so on. I'd suggest you watch more episodes to get a better picture.

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by hypercube

Sherlock didn't pull a gun to have a "fair fight" with someone, he was there to accomplish the specific goal of locating where the data was stored and destroying the hard copy. In this case the hard copy turned out to be the man's brain. So he used the most efficient tool to permanently destroy the data.

By making it seem as though he were in the weaker position, he was able to have the Dane tell him where the data was stored. Kevin Mitnick's book The Art of Deception gives a great overview about how the weakest link in any security system is human error and how that's able to be exploited through social engineering.

Why did he care to destroy the hard copy in the first place if he's such a socio. And how is this efficient, he threw his life away by murdering the dude and then all that "Send all my love to Mary" bullshit. This is not Shelock, call him something else. The producers could have come up with a way for him to dominate his adversary intellectually, which I still maintain he didn't. Shelly clearly underestimated the villain, went through all that drug trouble which the villain didn't buy... In the end, the dude is just a lame murderer. His solution was murder (plus throwing his life away) because he couldn't find a smarter way to defeat the psycho.

 

by hypercube

I thought it was brilliant and I think you're just being salty that your female friends like him a lot (:

The producers take the show's plot and characters wherever the fans want him to, and the largest fanbase is made up of girls like you who are just hot for his weird green eyes and high cheekbones and want to cuddle with him. XD

A lot were hot for Moriarty too, so fucking surprise, he's going to be back from the dead as well, maybe to do a cooking show or smth.

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by Mee

Regarding House, he seems to be rather sociopathic. He's careless, self-destructive, was in a rehab and prison, manipulates his team and boss, disregards rules and so on. I'd suggest you watch more episodes to get a better picture.

 I'm not so sure House is a sociopath. Maybe on some level his character is, but I think deep down he actually cares about people. He tries to keep that part of himself hidden though because he doesn't want the world to know that he has a soft side.

It's a dog eat dog world. If you show softness, people take advantage of it. If you're callous and uncaring, people are less inclined to victimize you. House knows this all too well.

If sociopathy is a defense mechanism, than maybe House is the true characterization of a sociopath.

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