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Military: Does it create sociopaths?

Where exactly did I mention that is the only thing they check for?

Of course there are other things they check for on a psych eval as well. My point was, since you're too fucking slow to catch on, is that anyone deemed a sociopath on a psych eval is very unlikely to be accepted into the military, which contradicts your belief that the military is training soldiers to be sociopathic, and that sociopaths make the best soldiers.

If everything you're claiming was true, no sociopath would need to fake the psych eval to be accepted.

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Military: Does it create sociopaths?

"Educate yourself" Sources: Oprah, psychcentral and telegraph.

Wow... Really?

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Military: Does it create sociopaths?

"Educate yourself" Sources: Oprah, psychcentral and telegraph. Wow... Really?

Wannabee clever guy gets bitch slapped by forum punch bag.

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Military: Does it create sociopaths?

Psych evaluations that they give you are bullshit. You can easily lie through them or at least it was easy for me. 

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by Systematic

Psych evaluations that they give you are bullshit. You can easily lie through them or at least it was easy for me. 

Oh, I agree. They are easy to lie through, but the point is, if the military thought sociopaths made the best soldiers or was actually training people to be sociopathic, no sociopath would need to lie on a psych eval to get into the military. Yet, that is not the case.

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Military: Does it create sociopaths?

True, you have to have a sense of honor and caring in order to just give your self up for the government. Something isn't fully explained here though because there are factual sociopaths in counter terrorism units that play by there own rules, and are allowed to because of how high up they are.

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Military: Does it create sociopaths?

To me, the general idea of what the military tries to do is not to create sociopathic (antisocial) behavior, but to strengthen pro-social behavior within one group ("us") combined with lack of empathy for another group ("them") and desensitization to violence.

The thing about sociopathy is that in general, there's no idea of "us vs. them," it's always going to be "me vs. them" and "them" includes the soldier next to you as well as the enemy across the field. I doubt a sociopath will feel the sense of group unity that most soldiers are expected to feel.

Basically, I think that a soldier is expected to act empathetic/pro-social toward fellow soldiers and countrymen, respectful to authority based on rank alone, and non-empathetic/dehumanizing toward the enemy soldiers. I think the last thing on that list could be considered a "sociopathic trait," but I think that the other two aspects are crucial enough to a strong military that they would not want to create pure sociopaths.

I also agree with what Frosty said that there are most likely some sociopaths involved in the military. In general, I think that a sociopath is more of a mercenary type than an enlisted soldier type.

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Military: Does it create sociopaths?

Wouldn't a high functioning sociopath that could take and follow an order be at the top of the list of people the army wants?

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by hypercube

I think that a sociopath is more of a mercenary type than an enlisted soldier type.

That is correct, hypercube, because mercenaries are motivated by material or financial gain, the same as a sociopath.

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Military: Does it create sociopaths?

 Some of you forget the military is in the killing business....it is a well oiled killing machine...and some of u think empaths run it? Haha

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