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Military: Does it create sociopaths?

I would think that PTSS could cause ex-military to act sociopathic and paranoid. Whether they become one, it doesn't matter. They could act in antisocial ways.

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Military: Does it create sociopaths?

What does PTSS stand for?

In what way would they act sociopathic?

Killing people doesn't make someone a sociopath, because even non-sociopaths are capable of murder. Soldiers, in particular, use justifications and rationalization to avoid feeling guilt. That hardly makes them sociopathic.

 

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Military: Does it create sociopaths?

Post traumatic stress syndrome. I think people can come back from war with a messed up sense of right and wrong, ie. Conscience.

So, i guess i am saying some do not act like what they did before they went in the military.

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Military: Does it create sociopaths?

Furthermore your understanding of the conditioning soldiers go through is obviously lacking.

While it is true that it is heavy on concepts of discipline it does not make them "puppets" but gives higher ups a method of controlling the soldiers they are creating, The very reason for that is that they are conditioning sociopathic behavior. Imagine what could happen if they didn't condition discipline in the training of sociopathic killers...

The parts that give soldiers sociopathic traits are in other forms of conditioning such as stress inoculation, which introduce the soldiers to high levels of stress which are acclimated to over time... Is it starting to make sense to you? Do i need to explain the correlation between anxiety, testosterone, and sociopathy? or are you a big girl capable of figuring this out on your own? Here's a hint, I've already posted about this in previous topics...

 

 

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Military: Does it create sociopaths?

However, "sociopathic" traits also include inherent self-interest and lack of loyalty/discipline/respect for authority figures.

The military most likely wants desensitized, pro-social individuals who are able to work together as part of a cohesive unit, not antisocial individualists.

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Military: Does it create sociopaths?

Find me a link that mentions it's possible for an adult to be turned into a sociopath. I'd like to see the evidence.

And while you're at it, show me an example of someone who was a normal, healthy-minded adult, before becoming a fully-fledged sociopath.

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Military: Does it create sociopaths?

 

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While it is true that it is heavy on concepts of discipline it does not make them "puppets" but gives higher ups a method of controlling the soldiers they are creating

That's my point. They are controlling them just like puppets. Soldiers are told what to do, when to do it and how to do it. They're barely allowed to have a mind of their own.

Sociopaths are not team players. Soldiers are trained to be.

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Military: Does it create sociopaths?

Exactly. Imagine a sociopath getting captured by the enemy. Imagine how quickly he will make a 'deal' to save himself.

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Military: Does it create sociopaths?

It's more commonly referred to as a disorder, not a syndrome: PTSD

And it doesn't cause "ex-military to act sociopathy or paranoid" it can cause anyone who has had a severely traumatic experience to behave anxiously... which does coorilate to anti-social behavior but does not make one sociopathic. While there is a correlation to anxiety and sociopathy PTSD is usually the neurotic manifestation of someone with severe guilt or shame. Something that is usually lacking in sociopaths. which is why we make better soldiers...

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