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I think often times, sociopathy and borderline can co-exist. So says my Psychiatrist. All the cluster Bs.

I think you can be Antisocial with elements of Narcissism and Borderline. That will have an effect on how your Antisocial behavior represents.

From what I'm reading now, the defining characteristic of BPD is "fear of abandonment."

Turn that into "anger at losing control of the other person's affection" and you have sociopathy.

But in general, I think the two are opposite. One seems focused on self-destruction, the other seems focused on destruction of others.

http://psychcentral.com/disorders/borderline-personality-disorder-symptoms/

http://psychcentral.com/disorders/antisocial-personality-disorder-symptoms/

For whatever it's worth, I was diagnosed as BPD as a teenager and reading those two lists I relate to the same things on both.  I'm not suicidal or paranoid like a borderline, and I'm not sadistic or actively destructive like a sociopath. 

But the parts about feeling empty and having no remorse are the same to me. The parts about changing sense of self and deceitfulness/manipulation are the same to me. The parts about impulsivity are the same on the list itself.

Disclaimer I don't really believe in this sort of "diagnosis" as anything more than a potentially useful paradigm.

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But in general, I think the two are opposite. One seems focused on self-destruction, the other seems focused on destruction of others.

 AsPD is self-destructive (through drug/alcohol abuse and risk-taking behavior) and destructive to others when the anger is projected.

Ya that sounds like a pretty typical story of a high-functioning borderline. Which is exactly my point, the two are so similar.

The same is true of BPD. Self-destructive of acting in through things like self-mutilation, reckless driving, drug abuse, and binge eating. While episodes of borderline rage or acting out can be seen as a clear example of destruction to others.

I would think you are a Narcissist. That is why you think you are a messiah. 

Either that or a Sociopath with borderline tendencies.

BPD's will often look and feel more flat compared to sociopaths due to (depending how smart the are) numbing themselves because there emotions are way to much.

I think it's more about having a higher threshold/tolerance. If 1% of the world can make you feel intensely, the other 99% seems superficial and flat. Maybe an existential crisis where everything is analyzed and found to be objectively meaningless makes a borderline look sociopathic.

I think numbing yourself comes across more like hot/cold. Feeling something and turning it off.

Damn it. I thought this thread was about who would win in a bum fight, like Muay Thai vs Boxing~

When it comes to love, my understanding is..,

In the red corner...The Bpd: Obsession with becoming her perfect man by becoming her, or she will not love me (insecurities)

In the blue corner... The Sociopath: If i become her perfect man by becoming her, she will then yield into me and I'll control every aspect of her sorry ass (Dominance)

When it comes to violence, my understanding is...

The Bpd: Emotionally reactive, unable to regulate emotions, bereft of cognitive empathy, rageful, and reactivity aggressive. 

The Sociopath: Emotionally detached, cognitively empathetic, morally problematic, exploitive, and proactively and reactively aggressive. 

A sociopath moonlighting as something else, is a very dangerous individual indeed.