Your weakness is showing kitten... best you overcompensate to cover it up again...
Dear TK and Daddy:
The same way there are at least TWO veins of Satanism (one seems practical only, not ritualistic and not espousing an "inner spiritual connection" with any forces; the other uses rituals to evoke dark spiritual forces to manipulate.)
I think you were talking about TWO levels of "sociopathic" tendencies. You aren't even talking about the same thing, so no sense in arguing. And certainly not insulting each other's intelligence.
TK you seemed to be addressing the overall manifestation itself, either it is there or it isn't. It's real or it's not.
Daddy seemed to be addressing the "internalized" side which people may use Satanism to express outwardly, otherwise it is suppressed by social expectations.
Those are two different things.
(And yes the "inner child" side can favor a different personality that doesn't have to define/label the whole person.)
Thanks Belial This subject can lead to more threads that go into more depth and directions filling up its own site. I think Luna should start a sister site and link them together because this subject will keep coming up. Thank you.
Yes. The monotony of this topic deserves a twin sister site. Maybe even triplits. <---spell check for autistic crowd
the third sister can be all about bdsm and the gothic subculture.
The key is forgiveness/letting go so the mind is more free of emotional biases to avoid self-delusion and projection.
The key is retribution and not letting pent up anger ruin your life because you are afraid of confrontation.
TK you seemed to be addressing the overall manifestation itself, either it is there or it isn't. It's real or it's not.
Daddy seemed to be addressing the "internalized" side which people may use Satanism to express outwardly, otherwise it is suppressed by social expectations.
You sound like a new age hippy who writes here after they smoked a bowl or two.
I may have OD'd in a past life. So I don't need to do any in this life to stimulate my brain.
Thanks for the compliment. But I'm too traditional to be hipster and too universal/inclusive to be old-school.
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As for the topic, there are obviously more variations of Satanism than can be generalized under one concept.
I have friends who explained that real Satanism to them doesn't have anything to do with the Christian God/Satan
they don't even believe in. Those are Christian concepts that were imposed on them.
While the ritualistic Satanic cults obviously push the worship to other extremes.
Look, there are many interpretations of this. In Eden, man had knowledge of God. He lost that after he listened to Satan, that's why Satan is considered evil. Some say that wasn't even God's punishment, but a consequence of man's choice. Knowledge of God is what Christians strive for.
Spiritual satanism is the bull. Atheist satanists, I kinda get, even though they could just say: we're fucking atheists, we don't need this Satan stuff at all to define our beliefs. But to actually worship the bad guy who's on the losing team in every story is really stupid. No wonder you seem to be interested in this (no offense :D).
Well said Ed. My Satanist friends who reason by free will openly reject belief in Satan that comes from Christianity.
As for the ritual Satanists, they do NOT have control of their free will but are cult driven like gang mob mentality.
That's why this is so dangerous. The beheadings by gangs along the Mexican border are Santeria/Satanic related.
by hypercubeI actually love that concept of Lucifer as the light bringer. According to the story, his crime was to give people knowledge and turn them from monkeys to men. Not much of a crime, to me.
Dear Hyper: The problem was only giving partial knowledge, before man was mature enough to handle it.
If you look in the Bible, they only ate from the tree of knowledge, but didn't receive full knowledge from the tree of life which comes later with Christ Jesus.
Humanity basically gained self-awareness of the laws before we could handle the responsibility by free will.
The knowledge was not wrong, but the MONOPOLY and manipulation of it by FEAR instead of "love of truth."
So that is where Satan/Devil represents tainting the truth with fear, jealousy, rebellion and negative twists.
[If you read "When God was a Woman" the symbolism of natural knowledge using snakes like the caduceus in medicine was taken from the Female Goddess religions and then demonized and manipulated by FEAR as evil.]
http://www.isocracytx.net/hp-org/adam&eve.html
Here's a poem I wrote about biting into the apple without finishing it (a little knowledge is a dangerous thing)
Sorry to keep bringing up the male/female balance, but this is the root of resolving all other "control" issues.