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 Of course it is.

reduce the corporations to rubble and start again.

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 i don't think it's healthy for human civilization to sit on this individual planet. we need technological innovation. we need human colaboration of resources and minds. a corporation is a machine that makes money, it's true, but currency is the value of human labor. without it, human labor would be much less available, and there would be much less opportunity for innovation.

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 And all this technology and innovation is doing "what" for mankind exactly?

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mankind and humanity is faced with problems.  problems that can be solved with corporations. i said that currency is the value of human labor, but time is the ultimate limited resource humans have.

when we are more time-efficient with our needs, we are more able to contribute brain power to addressing bigger issues that plague humanity.

for example, there was a study about the papua new guinea tribes. they had never seen civilization until recently. why is it they didn't innovate? why are they unable to defend themselves from their envrionment in a way that we can? the reason is that they simply didn't have wheat, or barley, or cows, or pigs, or the things that freed up human time from getting food so that we can allocate it to innovation.

from this, we find that these people aren't dumber or lesser humans. simply, they didn't have a system that provides an opportunity to allocate time to creativity, and addressing problems and finding solutions. in order to survive, they had to focus all their resources and time on food and survival.

by existing in a system where this isn't a major concern, the human mind is truly unlocked. had i been born into a society where we didn't have this advantage, i likely would be worrying about maintaining the household with my mother instead of becoming a programmer, and... doing my best to address the issues that plague humanity.

i think the new problem is that we have so many human minds that are unlocked now, but not many of them have the confidence in themselves requires to think they can take on the issues of humanity. instead they feel insignificant. i think this is likely the result of consumerism :(

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 you are missing the point of the tribal system Luna.

Corporations are not interested in helping mankind.

They are interested in money ...pure and simple.

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  i think this is likely the result of consumerism :(

 

then get rid of it.

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right, they are interested in money.. luckily for them, they must sell a product or service that is useful to humanity. i agree there are exceptions to this, but for the most part this applies

also, consider where that money goes after they make it. it surely doesn't sit in their bank accounts. the money is recycled back into the system.

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 they must sell a product or service that is useful to humanity

 

No, they sell a prodcut or service that consumers "THINK" is useful. 

again..it comes back to consumerism.

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i disagree. i think anyone with money knows money can't really buy that much happiness. 

for me, material happiness is a good laptop, a nice car(soon), comfort, nice clothing (for impressions), and finally.. an amazing view. the view is becsaue i feel that we choose how we look at the world, and the way we see the world can have a large impact on that.

anyway, after people buy the things they want, they realize there isn't that much awesome stuff available. for example, Google glass. it's going to be great. i wouldn't be surprised if our company begins developing applications for this. how much will it cost though? likeley less than 1k USD.  very cheap when we consider the level of innovation put into this technology. this is the magic of large scale consumerism.

it's true people want more and more money, but really, i think what it is they want.. is success. they want the definition of success. they want to be envied by their peers. they want to be admired, they want to make their parents proud. we have a mindset that makes us compete with eachother financially, and we buy nice material things to display our success to one another.

i don't think we need to get red of corporations though. rather, we need to become less sensative to their advertising. the people who are most sensative though are the people at the bottom because so much advertising continously shows them what they don't have, and since they can't have it, they want it that much more.

hopefully with web technology, the "meta" for humanity will change, and consumerism will become less of a problem. i think what really thows a wrench into the system is that some humans are stupid, and some are lazy. when we as humanity provide a safety net for ourselves, we are creating an envrionment in which stupid and lazy people can flourish. they grow up in bad conditions, and as a result aren't raised in a way that mentally prepares them to face the issues of reality. as a result of this, these people are forever lost, and forever consumers.

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 When was the last time you went out and had some fun with other teenagers Luna?

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