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I thought I read that you came here initially due to an ex you were with who could have been a sociopath.

 

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I have a question, given that most sociopaths are supposed to be highly intelligent and have an affinity for manipulation, lying, and such, wouldn't it be more fun to go against someone their own "size"?

highly empathic people are like low hanging fruit in comparison, aren't they? they are easily played, where's the challenge in that? to me it's like picking on a kid, any adult can do that, but trying to mess with someone on your own level, well, that's more challenging and therefore fun, isn't it? or is my premise and logic all wrong? 

i was gonna say, where's the joy in that, but maybe you guys don't experience joy as such. do you get happy when you screw someone over? is it happiness you feel, or is it an adrenaline rush and purely lack of boredom that you experience, momentary entertainment?

 

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by blabla011

I have a question, given that most sociopaths are supposed to be highly intelligent and have an affinity for manipulation, lying, and such, wouldn't it be more fun to go against someone their own "size"?

 Sociopaths vary in intelligence. I'd say the ones that keep finding themselves in prison rate somewhat lower on the intelligence scale. Then again, that's really more about poor behavioral controls and poor impulse control.

While there's definitely more challenge in taking someone on of your own "size" as such, it really depends on what you want out of the situation. Manipulation isn't always about the challenge. Sometimes it's purely about the object desired. Why reach for the fruit that's harder to get when the lower-hanging fruit can be obtained a lot quicker...

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no, but you dont need years of practice to hit a baseball either, that is beside the point. the point is, to develope deep connections you must on some level be able to empathise. regardless of how good an actor you are, unless you can make yourself feel the manipulation, you can never truly portrey it. the best liers believe the lies they tell, if only in that moment. this is a trancendence above basic lieing this is  lieing made true, this is the foundation of belief. because regardless of how well you can act, if you cannot feel it, your body language will give you away and your victim will feel like something is off... and they will be right. I dont expect your little mind to comprehend this kitten... but try to think outside of that small little box you live in... idiot...

the best lies are believed and have strong doses of truth in them... in is said that casanova claimed to love every woman he had been with....

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 ...lol I came here because i read m.e.s book... and because i have an interest in psychology.... sociopathy being one of the areas specifically that i resonate with... for multiple reasons...

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your premise and logic are all wrong. 

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true is nothing, for perception is reality. this is the foundation of manipulation. 

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What you're talking about is emotional empathy, where you put yourself in their shoes and connect with them emotionally. I don't connect with people emotionally.

The reason I can still manipulate people is because I have cognitive empathy. I can see what they're feeling. I don't need to feel what the other person is feeling to know what emotion it is. There are visual cues that tell me what someone is feeling via body language and facial expression. I only need to recognize them and respond accordingly.

Mind you, I'm not claiming to be completely emotionless. I can feel certain emotions, but the ones I do feel are usually shallow and fleeting.

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 enlighten me please! i would love to understand. 

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 ...you're fake... that or your simply depressed.... it is common for people to "go numb" when depressed. but I assure you, you are capable of deep emotion... the numbing is a common defence mechanism, even more so for people who are deeply emotional types... a way to push out the screaming almost telepathic messages people constantly blasting out (via body language and other non verbal cues) infact that is exactly what you are doing when you manipulate people...

i'm curious... do you watch any television? movies or tv shows? do you listen to music?

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