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Edit: Don't get me wrong. I don't think he's acted well or fair play in those situations. 

What'd I do wrong by your accounts User? 

I was trying to de-escalate by conceding some points to sugar and have her at least see my point as to why, even accepting what she faults you for, you'd still make a good mod. She proceeded to call me a retard tho :^(.

You being online and not removing the doxx while asked and partaking in the drama is something that can be considered unprofessional as a mod. But I don't know what "doxx" means. When, if at all, you were asked to remove it, and how fast did you act upon that. 

Do you remember our old dox policy? 

It fit within the parameters to not be taken down, namely that Med had posted herself on this website and the photos following from others did not escalate any further than how identifiable she'd made herself first. We'd been taking down Med photos on and off for years here at SC simply over how she'd not put herself directly on the website (just PM proliferation), and her finally doing it was a nail in the coffin. 

The supposed "Alena and Med wanted it down" situation was Sugar doing a bullying form of diplomacy only to later see that Alena couldn't edit her photo upload of Med out of a post from it making it past the edit timer. Seeing as it wasn't by our older policy of SC even a dox, it was just them asking me to change a non-dox post without any rules backing it, and I make a point of not taking down any posts that don't go against any rules for the sake of forum purity. 

Okay, but when issues are getting resolved by both parties of doxing and they agree to take it down, you should just take it down tbh? Otherwise this is just Pink01 Dox Lite.


Alena and I were talking during Sug's weird "womyn are weak and need to stick together" attempt at forming a 'feminist' bandwagon, and largely she was just tired of Sugar complaining so much to the point of cowing to her demands. She if anything seemed relieved, and even reversed her decision as the conversation escalated, and now this far along both of them are together again in their witnessing the trainwreck that is Med. 

 

What.

To give you an idea, this is enough to be called a "dox" to ol' Sug: 

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So in the end, this was just a power move to Sugar, and she thinks in that battle that she lost. If she can't use it as a means to "take me down" after the fact, then she has to face this idea in her head of having lost a game of tug of war where her opponent wasn't even playing. She'd even tried to hand my dox to Med as some means of evening the score only to see nothing come of it. 

Furthermore, I believe it's part of SC culture to at least let the drama caused by a doxxing unfold for a while before the said doxxing is removed.

It'd been dependent on if the person in question wanted it down, and if it'd passed the bar of how much they've shown of themselves or not. 

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Edit: Don't get me wrong. I don't think he's acted well or fair play in those situations. 

What'd I do wrong by your accounts User? 

I was trying to de-escalate by conceding some points to sugar and have her at least see my point as to why, even accepting what she faults you for, you'd still make a good mod. She proceeded to call me a retard tho :^(.

You being online and not removing the doxx while asked and partaking in the drama is something that can be considered unprofessional as a mod. But I don't know what "doxx" means. When, if at all, you were asked to remove it, and how fast did you act upon that. 

Do you remember our old dox policy? 

It fit within the parameters to not be taken down, namely that Med had posted herself on this website and the photos following from others did not escalate any further than how identifiable she'd made herself first. We'd been taking down Med photos on and off for years here at SC simply over how she'd not put herself directly on the website (just PM proliferation), and her finally doing it was a nail in the coffin. 

The supposed "Alena and Med wanted it down" situation was Sugar doing a bullying form of diplomacy only to later see that Alena couldn't edit her photo upload of Med out of a post from it making it past the edit timer. Seeing as it wasn't by our older policy of SC even a dox, it was just them asking me to change a non-dox post without any rules backing it, and I make a point of not taking down any posts that don't go against any rules for the sake of forum purity. 

Okay, but when issues are getting resolved by both parties of doxing and they agree to take it down, you should just take it down tbh? Otherwise this is just Pink01 Dox Lite.

What of when you started saying you didn't want it down anymore, in the chat? 

Alena and I were talking during Sug's weird "womyn are weak and need to stick together" attempt at forming a 'feminist' bandwagon, and largely she was just tired of Sugar complaining so much to the point of cowing to her demands. She if anything seemed relieved, and even reversed her decision as the conversation escalated, and now this far along both of them are together again in their witnessing the trainwreck that is Med. 

What.

You were tired of it, then you started doing what she wanted until you later changed your mind. The chat that day clearly shows her trying to force the situation when you'd already shown a history prior to that (and somewhat after) that otherwise contradicts wanting to make up with Med for Med's sake. You've openly said you were only doing it for Sug purely, this is all on the forum in chat and topics. 

You were also right in that one topic, all you had to do was wait long enough and Med'd self-sabotage to the point of Sugar seeing the issue. 

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last edit on 12/13/2019 1:50:52 AM
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so you just tried to imply lena was complaining about me to you privately and now confronted you walked it back. such a coward. at least now you showed her what a snake you are.

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Med Self-sabotage? Med make up with sugar?

keep writing the narratives in your head

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bleary said: 

Med Self-sabotage?

Yes. 

Med make up with sugar?

I didn't say you were making up with Sugar, I was saying that Sugar was trying to have you and Alena get along in her... own way. 

I'm talking about back when she still defended you. 

keep writing the narratives in your head

My claims have chat records and forum posts connected to them. I cropped out the comments that weren't related, but you can check the date for the entire record (10/08/2019). 

SC Chat: 10/08/2019: 
bleary:           tc delete both threads please

Whorechata: No

bleary:
           what do you mean no delete the threads

Whorechata:
I mean no

bleary:   
        sug

Whorechata:
It's pretty simple

bleary:   
        she doesnt want the threads deleted!
                        sugar she doesnt want the threads deleted!

natasha87: 
   SHE DOES
                        tc is refusing to delete them

bleary: 
          no she said no ask her
                        she said she doesnt want to "censor" other users

Whorechata:
Make a thread about it med

bleary:     
      i dont care lena

Whorechata:
Maybe other people will agree with you

bleary:   
       well you do have to follow this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Online_Copyright_Infringement_Liability_Limitation_Act

natasha87:
    med

Whorechata:
Actually

natasha87: 
  report the site then

Whorechata:
No we don't

This was the conclusion, Sugar just likes to cut this part out. Other than some side comments from the likes of myself, Spatial, Cain, and some others, we after this started talking about Art and Rice Pudding mostly. 

The issue was otherwise handled outside of this scenario, through forcibly changing website policy from not fully understanding our own rights as a website

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last edit on 12/13/2019 2:49:15 AM
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0 votes RE: good can you maybe tell...

Edit: Don't get me wrong. I don't think he's acted well or fair play in those situations. 

What'd I do wrong by your accounts User? 

I was trying to de-escalate by conceding some points to sugar and have her at least see my point as to why, even accepting what she faults you for, you'd still make a good mod. She proceeded to call me a retard tho :^(.

You being online and not removing the doxx while asked and partaking in the drama is something that can be considered unprofessional as a mod. But I don't know what "doxx" means. When, if at all, you were asked to remove it, and how fast did you act upon that. 

Do you remember our old dox policy? 

It fit within the parameters to not be taken down, namely that Med had posted herself on this website and the photos following from others did not escalate any further than how identifiable she'd made herself first. We'd been taking down Med photos on and off for years here at SC simply over how she'd not put herself directly on the website (just PM proliferation), and her finally doing it was a nail in the coffin. 

The supposed "Alena and Med wanted it down" situation was Sugar doing a bullying form of diplomacy only to later see that Alena couldn't edit her photo upload of Med out of a post from it making it past the edit timer. Seeing as it wasn't by our older policy of SC even a dox, it was just them asking me to change a non-dox post without any rules backing it, and I make a point of not taking down any posts that don't go against any rules for the sake of forum purity. 

Okay, but when issues are getting resolved by both parties of doxing and they agree to take it down, you should just take it down tbh? Otherwise this is just Pink01 Dox Lite.

What of when you started saying you didn't want it down anymore, in the chat? 

I'm assuming you mean the chat bit you've posted in response to med? I was saying I didn't want the threads deleted. Not that I didn't want the doxes down. I agree with you on preserving the history of the place along with petty disputes. Med didn't just want the dox pictures down, she wanted the threads down because there was proof with time stamps that she had started it with the dox of some lady she thinks is me. If she wanted to sue the website all that had to be done was show proof that med had started the dox with a known account. Pictures that seemed similar to her were being used as avatars by many people but the time frame for that is shoddy and was in retaliation to doxes she herself first started.

So no, you misunderstood me, it's not that I didn't want the doxes down, it's that I didn't agree with her request of deleting the threads.

 

Alena and I were talking during Sug's weird "womyn are weak and need to stick together" attempt at forming a 'feminist' bandwagon, and largely she was just tired of Sugar complaining so much to the point of cowing to her demands. She if anything seemed relieved, and even reversed her decision as the conversation escalated, and now this far along both of them are together again in their witnessing the trainwreck that is Med. 

What.

You were tired of it, then you started doing what she wanted until you later changed your mind. The chat that day clearly shows her trying to force the situation when you'd already shown a history prior to that (and somewhat after) that otherwise contradicts wanting to make up with Med for Med's sake. You've openly said you were only doing it for Sug purely, this is all on the forum in chat and topics. 

You made it sound like I was dming you and bitching about sug. I know I've vented to you my frustrations and jealousy about her and med so I was confused. 

I don't like med. I tried but ultimately cock is far too important for her to have anything like an actual relationship with people she isn't romantically invested in and even then those are disastrous. 

You were also right in that one topic, all you had to do was wait long enough and Med'd self-sabotage to the point of Sugar seeing the issue. 

Yeah, tho I can't feel particularly good about it because of the circumstances at the time.

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Edit: Don't get me wrong. I don't think he's acted well or fair play in those situations. 

What'd I do wrong by your accounts User? 

I was trying to de-escalate by conceding some points to sugar and have her at least see my point as to why, even accepting what she faults you for, you'd still make a good mod. She proceeded to call me a retard tho :^(.

You being online and not removing the doxx while asked and partaking in the drama is something that can be considered unprofessional as a mod. But I don't know what "doxx" means. When, if at all, you were asked to remove it, and how fast did you act upon that. 

Do you remember our old dox policy? 

It fit within the parameters to not be taken down, namely that Med had posted herself on this website and the photos following from others did not escalate any further than how identifiable she'd made herself first. We'd been taking down Med photos on and off for years here at SC simply over how she'd not put herself directly on the website (just PM proliferation), and her finally doing it was a nail in the coffin. 

The supposed "Alena and Med wanted it down" situation was Sugar doing a bullying form of diplomacy only to later see that Alena couldn't edit her photo upload of Med out of a post from it making it past the edit timer. Seeing as it wasn't by our older policy of SC even a dox, it was just them asking me to change a non-dox post without any rules backing it, and I make a point of not taking down any posts that don't go against any rules for the sake of forum purity. 

Okay, but when issues are getting resolved by both parties of doxing and they agree to take it down, you should just take it down tbh? Otherwise this is just Pink01 Dox Lite.

What of when you started saying you didn't want it down anymore, in the chat? 

I'm assuming you mean the chat bit you've posted in response to med? I was saying I didn't want the threads deleted. Not that I didn't want the doxes down. I agree with you on preserving the history of the place along with petty disputes. Med didn't just want the dox pictures down, she wanted the threads down because there was proof with time stamps that she had started it with the dox of some lady she thinks is me. If she wanted to sue the website all that had to be done was show proof that med had started the dox with a known account. Pictures that seemed similar to her were being used as avatars by many people but the time frame for that is shoddy and was in retaliation to doxes she herself first started.

So no, you misunderstood me, it's not that I didn't want the doxes down, it's that I didn't agree with her request of deleting the threads. 

That's fair, it to me just looked like "I won't do it if she won't do it", "Well won't do it if she won't do it!", all the while Sugar in the middle trying to look tough while trying to bridge something that simply was never meant to be. 

Alena and I were talking during Sug's weird "womyn are weak and need to stick together" attempt at forming a 'feminist' bandwagon, and largely she was just tired of Sugar complaining so much to the point of cowing to her demands. She if anything seemed relieved, and even reversed her decision as the conversation escalated, and now this far along both of them are together again in their witnessing the trainwreck that is Med. 

What.

You were tired of it, then you started doing what she wanted until you later changed your mind. The chat that day clearly shows her trying to force the situation when you'd already shown a history prior to that (and somewhat after) that otherwise contradicts wanting to make up with Med for Med's sake. You've openly said you were only doing it for Sug purely, this is all on the forum in chat and topics. 

You made it sound like I was dming you and bitching about sug.

No, we were talking during the time Sug was trying to do some rather heavy handed and sloppy 'diplomacy', and you clearly expressed both there and well outside of there not wanting to. You didn't want to be friendly with Med, but were ultimately willing to compromise it for Sug. 

I know I've vented to you my frustrations and jealousy about her and med so I was confused. 

You've mostly avoided talking about Sugar these days from preferring she and I keep our feud away from you. At most you've gone into some transference over some anti-Med sentiments, each of which that have found their way onto this forum through posts and chat. 

I don't like med. I tried but ultimately cock is far too important for her to have anything like an actual relationship with people she isn't romantically invested in and even then those are disastrous. 

Thankfully, more people see this truth about her now. 

You were also right in that one topic, all you had to do was wait long enough and Med'd self-sabotage to the point of Sugar seeing the issue. 

Yeah, tho I can't feel particularly good about it because of the circumstances at the time.

I dunno, it ultimately showed that sitting back and letting Med be herself was enough. 

It's very Neutral Jing compared to the more Positive Jing it was before.

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