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Dox data will be removed on request


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Since the topic was turned into a circus, I decided to do it myself. Originally I wanted to make a poll and this can still be done, but here is the bare minimum:
The first step to solving the problem is legality and as it turns out, if we want this forum to stay up then any personal information relating to an identifiable person on the forum, can be requested to be removed.
This is according to the GDPR and we have users, such as myself, that force the forum to be compliant to these laws.

Here is a topic on law.stackexchange that specifically target the forum posts issue: https://law.stackexchange.com/questions/28276/are-internet-forum-posts-considered-personal-data-under-gdpr 
It is not 100% clear, which is why it will be done on request and I will limit it to the bare minimum to comply with the law.

The bare minimum rule must be like this: "Dox data must be removed if the doxed person requests it and if the specific dox data was not posted by themselves on the site.".
"Dox data" is any data that can be used to uniquely identify a real person. This "real person" is the "doxed person".
"Doxed person" is any individual that has been uniquely identified by some collection of identifiers and the dox data relates to them.

In addition, if doxing is used as a tool to commit a real crime(such as cyberstalking, stalking, harassment, threats, or extortion) and it was not removed on request, it is a possible liability (according to any law).
If the dox data was obtained illegally, it is illegal and must be removed (according to any law).

 

Any changes to the rule must comply with the law, or someone crazy like med/primal can sue. If you disagree and think that people can't use the law against SC, explain?

Cheery bye!
last edit on 10/11/2019 11:31:11 AM
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0 votes RE: Dox data will be remove...
Good said: 

Since the topic was turned into a circus, I decided to do it myself. Originally I wanted to make a poll and this can still be done, but here is the bare minimum:
The first step to solving the problem is legality and as it turns out, if we want this forum to stay up then any personal information relating to an identifiable person on the forum, can be requested to be removed.
This is according to the GDPR and we have users, such as myself, that force the forum to be compliant to these laws.

Here is a topic on law.stackexchange that specifically target the forum posts issue: https://law.stackexchange.com/questions/28276/are-internet-forum-posts-considered-personal-data-under-gdpr 
It is not 100% clear, which is why it will be done on request and I will limit it to the bare minimum to comply with the law.

The bare minimum rule must be like this: "Dox data must be removed if the doxed person requests it and if the specific dox data was not posted by themselves on the site.".
Dox data is any data that can be used to uniquely identify a real person. This "real person" is the "doxed person".
"Doxed person" is any individual that has been uniquely identified by some collection of identifiers and the dox data relates to them.

In addition, if doxing is used as a tool to commit a real crime(such as cyberstalking, stalking, harassment, threats, or extortion) and it was not removed on request, it is a possible liability (according to any law).
If the dox data was obtained illegally, it is illegal and must be removed (according to any law).

 

Any changes to the rule must comply with the law, or someone crazy like med/primal can sue. If you disagree and think that people can't use the law against SC, explain?

Edit: Okay so there's still a poll at least, that's something. 

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last edit on 10/11/2019 11:32:00 AM
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2 votes RE: Dox data will be remove...

I am not going to be sued because you are acting insane.

Cheery bye!
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0 votes RE: Dox data will be remove...
Good said: 

I am not going to be sued because you are acting insane.

Just edited when I saw what the skim read missed. 

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0 votes RE: Dox data will be remove...
Good said:
The first step to solving the problem is legality and as it turns out, if we want this forum to stay up then any personal information relating to an identifiable person on the forum, can be requested to be removed.

Could doxes be hosted offsite and linked here without it being about this website? 

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last edit on 10/11/2019 11:34:48 AM
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0 votes RE: Dox data will be remove...

cant you just put the server outside the jurisdiction of whoever has that law?

or you could claim your a telecommunication company... who only offers a communication service and is not responsibly for what is said on that service?

or you could just register your server in a false name so that you as the owner cannot be tracked

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0 votes RE: Dox data will be remove...
Good said: 

I am not going to be sued because you are acting insane.

Uncanny timing to be looking up laws. 

So wait, upon further inspection... what's left to vote on if it's just "Take Down On Request" entirely now? 

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0 votes RE: Dox data will be remove...

Could doxes be hosted offsite and linked here without it being about this website?

The link is still the carrier of the data...

 

Here is more information on GDPR:

https://ec.europa.eu/info/law/law-topic/data-protection/reform/rules-business-and-organisations/application-regulation/who-does-data-protection-law-apply_en 

https://europa.eu/youreurope/business/dealing-with-customers/data-protection/data-protection-gdpr/index_en.htm 

Cheery bye!
last edit on 10/11/2019 11:37:01 AM
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1 votes RE: Dox data will be remove...
Good said: 

I am not going to be sued because you are acting insane.

Uncanny timing to be looking up laws. 

So wait, upon further inspection... what's left to vote on if it's just "Take Down On Request" entirely now? 

It is not uncanny at all, you pushed for a change and I really didn't want to care, but if it has to be done, it has to be done right.

Nabble takes down forums for doxing btw, all it takes is one email.

Cheery bye!
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0 votes RE: Dox data will be remove...

can you at least require that they prove their identity before you take it down?

otherwise anyone can just ask anyone to take anything down claiming its their dox... such a slippery slope

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