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Puts a dangerous amount of power in the mods hands where they can be manipulated by that power and targeted for it, blackmailed for it etc. 

 

or they can blackmail others with it to assert their own private agendas 

 

this is the end game issue I felt I kept running into in a lot of mod related rules and it’s why I’m more of an equal powers evenly distributed with checks and balances kind of person 

 

mod actions should be governed by the people of the forum and other mods 

 

with no one person holding enough power to be “the most powerful” or “on top” 

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Good said: 
When the regulation does not apply

Your company is service provider based outside the EU. It provides services to customers outside the EU. Its clients can use its services when they travel to other countries, including within the EU. Provided your company doesn't specifically target its services at individuals in the EU, it is not subject to the rules of the GDPR.

Could this effectively a work around? 

It could only for non-EU members, but do you really want to start checking people's nationality now? And it would give an unfair advantage to non-EU members.

"Your company is service provider based outside the EU."
Couldn't we use a host provider outside of the EU? 

The host is in the US.

"Provided your company doesn't specifically target its services at individuals in the EU, it is not subject to the rules of the GDPR."
You don't specifically target EU individuals, they just happen to be members among other populations as well. 

I do not think it means that I go and only provide service only to the EU. I think they meant it in the way I showed with the US bank. Here is another site that I had read many months ago:

https://gdpr.eu/companies-outside-of-europe/ 

The site offers services to EU citizens.

Agreeing to data processing - consent

The GDPR applies strict rules for processing data based on consent. The purpose of these rules is to ensure that the individual understands what he or she is consenting to. This means that consent should be freely given, specific, informed and unambiguous by way of a request presented in clear and plain language. Consent should be given by an affirmative act, such as checking a box online or signing a form.

When someone consents to the processing of their personal data, you can only process the data for the purposes for which consent was given. You must also give them the opportunity to withdraw their consent.

Does consent get around this issue? If so we're right back to where we were about voting. 

Yeah, but they can revoke it. Which is why the rule requires a request from the doxxed person. 

It can't be as binding as a TOS agreement for signing up for and using the website? 

How do they end up revoking what they just agreed to..?

In the GDPR it says they must be able to do so, unless its a special exception, those are explained in the other link I provided.

It is questionable if they can only revoke it for one piece of data, not for all, but if we assume they have to revoke all of it, then they must not use the forum, as thats the only way, they give consent by using the forum. 

Maybe they can only request their doxes to be removed legally if they leave the forum. I am ok with that. We can have the vote for the people that chose to use the forum anyway. I may have to reread my TOS for this.

We ought to look further into what goes into revoking. 

I can write in the TOS that any information that is not requested to be taken down is implied consent. I already have a part that says it if they post it themselves it is not considered confidential.

This however means, they can request it to be taken down.
I do not think it is a good idea to force people to leave to have their info removed, it can be abused.

 

TOS can't overwrite the law though, keep that in mind.

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Your right to erasure

The reason to request erasure might be that:

* it was unlawfully collected or used (in breach of the GDPR)
Only reason on this specific list that applies, and we can probably work around it. 

 
There are also situations where the organisation has the right to use the information, and a request for deletion does not need to be followed up. Those are in cases where the organisation:

* is exercising the right of freedom of expression

Freedom of Expression? 

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I fail to see the big issue though, why not just have it removed on request if they didn't put it themselves? It is easy, simple, covers all the problems and its efficient.
It is very hard to identify exactly when which dox piece will be a problem.

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0 votes RE: Dox data will be remove...
Your right to erasure

The reason to request erasure might be that:

* it was unlawfully collected or used (in breach of the GDPR)
Only reason on this specific list that applies, and we can probably work around it. 

There are also situations where the organisation has the right to use the information, and a request for deletion does not need to be followed up. Those are in cases where the organisation:

* is exercising the right of freedom of expression

Freedom of Expression? 

How would you differentiate between that and malicious intent?

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if your really going to try to keep this place within the law... you will shut it down for legal reasons eventually because thats just the way society is going

you need to instead just make sure you dont attach your personal identity to the ownership of the forum.. then when people try to sue you they cant even find you!

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if your really going to try to keep this place within the law... you will shut it down for legal reasons eventually because thats just the way society is going

you need to instead just make sure you dont attach your personal identity to the ownership of the forum.. then when people try to sue you they cant even find you!

Thats too much work, I rather watch youtube videos

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this site is about free speech.... and fighting against authority.... being ANON and sharing your ideas openly without fear

its basicly about revolution. we are naturally against governments and rules. dont be such a conformist

last edit on 10/11/2019 12:33:20 PM
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1 votes RE: Dox data will be remove...

this site is about free speech.... and fighting against authority.... being ANON and sharing your ideas openly without fear

its basicly about revolution. dont be such a conformist

Wasn't that your site? The anon part

edit: we can have freedom of speech within the law

 

if you want to go outside of the law... go to jims forum.

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last edit on 10/11/2019 12:34:33 PM
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0 votes RE: Dox data will be remove...

you suck -.-

coward

last edit on 10/11/2019 12:34:52 PM
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