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My CHUNGUS is cuantum fucking you 

its quantum* you kumquat

There is a tree in the living room. Something tropical no doubt.

In the 5 years I've known this tree it has never sprouted these things. To note it is cold outside so life would be a struggle for it right about now. 

The tree is watered, though I never really spray the leaves, hence it being a little dusty (I'll deal with that.)

Anyway the point I'm making is, I spoke to the tree last week. I looked at it and said something along the lines of "You'll be okay for another winter, you've been doing a good job this far." And I started acknowledging it every time I pass by.

Now these things I never seen before are budding and it's letting off a sweet aroma throughout the condo. It's like a waxxy honey sweet smell crossed with flowers, meanwhile we're having a wintery fall outside. The smell is quite nice.

The image is 1 week of those things budding, I just took it now.

I do believe this is a demonstration of vibration. Sound.

But not just sound. Commands/orders. It's not a matter of thinking, but manifesting energies with words. If I said something cruel to this tree, it probably wouldn't have done this.

Whatever goals we achieve, it's more than just thinking it, we had to speak it for it to become a reality. "I will do this"

On an interesting note. The force that holds our atoms together is sound.

10:38 shows a demonstration of what I'm talking about here. ( The whole video is interesting though. Open minds only )

It's interesting cause the mind is a self collapsing wave function and the universe itself is a sea of waves. 

Spatial Mind said: 

When you find what you're looking for, there will be no way to prove it to anyone else.

That's a pretty big statement to make when we have an entire history of people proving things successfully. 

Privacy is a part of this physical experience, and like all other things we experience here, it's very profound. 

It sounds more like a way to live with half-baked ideas uncorrected. 

The mind(consciousness/conscious choice) has been proven to be actively able to change the chemical makeup of the brain. hmmmm. Neuroscientist Wilder Penfield began to discover hints of this decades ago. Applying an electrode to the motor cortext, he could force patients to do several things involuntarily. He could raise arms involuntarily, even vocalize involuntarily, as well as recall memories. but in his studies- he could not involuntarily force patients to act; in other words, he could not stimulate the Will. "There is no place in the cerebral cortex where an electrical stimulation will cause a patient to...decide." - Neuroscientist Wilder Penfield

Give it time, they're getting closer and closer to it. 

As is we instead use surrounding stimulus and drugs to make people more receptive to others will, but we're even in the process of drugs that fuck with one's memory, forever. Imagine pairing that with Sleeper Agent ideologies if not outright giving someone a new identity. 

If you can fuck with someone's memories, you can affect their decision making pretty hard. 

aubrieta said:

soooo ya feel free to disagree, ik most of you are "Materialists" and that mainstream science is very closed minded to the idea of consciousness continuing after death on a quantum level as a soul. it sounds crazy when you are used to only experiencing reality with 5 senses and a human brain

Disagreeing with this isn't necessarily a result of being a materialist. I agree that Science is increasingly closed minded (some sects more than others), but that closed mindedness is derived from avoiding evidence and giving into specific fantasies - that fantasy usually being driven by the desire for mathematical beauty. 

Penrose is explaining an old idea called emergence and says nothing about the afterlife nor does the theory. I read through Hameroffs works a few years ago and he doesn't touch upon the after-life in his actual work, he's just speculating here for fun. He catches a lot of flack for his work but I do think it's worth looking into - having said that his papers from a Quantized stand point is lacking. 

Quantum states can change and constantly are changing thus to say "I am a Quantum State, I am immortal" is not necessarily true because your state is not constant - if it was constant you would never change nor anything else. Conservation of Information is what is being used to make these arguments but they are equating Classical Information(this is what you and I are) and quantum information(what makes us up). By definition they have completely different rules and the rule that pokes a hole in these ideas on the Quantum level is the "No-Hiding Theorem" which has been demonstrated quite rigorously to date.

I am saying this as an Idealist who also values science and what it can teach us about the material and ideal worlds. I also have no problem with the idea of an afterlife nor using physics to confirm it. But, if we are going to use physics to confirm it then we must do so rigorously. 

AliceInWonderland said: 

aubrieta said:

soooo ya feel free to disagree, ik most of you are "Materialists" and that mainstream science is very closed minded to the idea of consciousness continuing after death on a quantum level as a soul. it sounds crazy when you are used to only experiencing reality with 5 senses and a human brain

Disagreeing with this isn't necessarily a result of being a materialist. I agree that Science is increasingly closed minded (some sects more than others), but that closed mindedness is derived from avoiding evidence and giving into specific fantasies - that fantasy usually being driven by the desire for mathematical beauty. 

Penrose is explaining an old idea called emergence and says nothing about the afterlife nor does the theory. I read through Hameroffs works a few years ago and he doesn't touch upon the after-life in his actual work, he's just speculating here for fun. He catches a lot of flack for his work but I do think it's worth looking into - having said that his papers from a Quantized stand point is lacking. 

Quantum states can change and constantly are changing thus to say "I am a Quantum State, I am immortal" is not necessarily true because your state is not constant - if it was constant you would never change nor anything else. Conservation of Information is what is being used to make these arguments but they are equating Classical Information(this is what you and I are) and quantum information(what makes us up). By definition they have completely different rules and the rule that pokes a hole in these ideas on the Quantum level is the "No-Hiding Theorem" which has been demonstrated quite rigorously to date.

I am saying this as an Idealist who also values science and what it can teach us about the material and ideal worlds. I also have no problem with the idea of an afterlife nor using physics to confirm it. But, if we are going to use physics to confirm it then we must do so rigorously. 

 yeah, The only thing that is "constant" is supposed to be consciousness according to the theories ive been looking into.  conscious awareness is supposedly eternal. but there is definitely not enough scientific evidence for that theory, or for the theory that consciousness created the brain and not the other way around. materialists/Atheists have the most physical evidence for their beliefs, but they don't have answers for people who have had.....supernatural experiences. they sum all of that up into "hallucinations". and I think that's very limiting and I want more answers about why people "hallucinate" out-of-body experiences, and demonic experiences, and mystical spiritual experiences, and telepathic and psychic experiences., near-death experiences, experiences of other realms that they aren't able to describe in human language. idk. I am craving explanations for all the supernatural experiences human beings have

summing it up as "hallucinations caused by the brain misfiring or a chemical imbalance" just dont do it for me. its not satisfying

Spatial Mind said: 

There is a tree in the living room. Something tropical no doubt.

In the 5 years I've known this tree it has never sprouted these things. To note it is cold outside so life would be a struggle for it right about now. 

The tree is watered, though I never really spray the leaves, hence it being a little dusty (I'll deal with that.)

Anyway the point I'm making is, I spoke to the tree last week. I looked at it and said something along the lines of "You'll be okay for another winter, you've been doing a good job this far." And I started acknowledging it every time I pass by.

Now these things I never seen before are budding and it's letting off a sweet aroma throughout the condo. It's like a waxxy honey sweet smell crossed with flowers, meanwhile we're having a wintery fall outside. The smell is quite nice.

The image is 1 week of those things budding, I just took it now.

I do believe this is a demonstration of vibration. Sound.

But not just sound. Commands/orders. It's not a matter of thinking, but manifesting energies with words. If I said something cruel to this tree, it probably wouldn't have done this.

Whatever goals we achieve, it's more than just thinking it, we had to speak it for it to become a reality. "I will do this"

On an interesting note. The force that holds our atoms together is sound.

10:38 shows a demonstration of what I'm talking about here. ( The whole video is interesting though. Open minds only )

It's interesting cause the mind is a self collapsing wave function and the universe itself is a sea of waves. 

Spatial.. You're kind of amazing. I really admire your consistent lunacy. Some people have these phases where they have an idea they grab onto for a short while... And then let go. But not you. You've been at it for years.....

I'm impressed, genuinely. I am not being sarcastic. I genuinely admire your dedication to being batshit insane. I mean this in the best sense, I love idiots and insane people, they make the world such a... fascinating, delightful, happy and wonderful place.

Now I do have to ask you... Because I feel like I should be insane too... Is.. Well. I really would like to know how you're doing. I mean how are you doing in life, how happy are you, and.... Also how influential, powerful you are. How much do you influence people and things and make your dreams come true... Instead of just sitting on your ass philosophisizing about doing things.... Do you feel like at the end of the day you've achieved your dreams... And what are they? Your dreams, I mean.

Please, I would like to know.

Turncoat said: 

Spatial Mind said: 

When you find what you're looking for, there will be no way to prove it to anyone else.

That's a pretty big statement to make when we have an entire history of people proving things successfully. 

She's doing soul searching.

Privacy is a part of this physical experience, and like all other things we experience here, it's very profound. 

It sounds more like a way to live with half-baked ideas uncorrected. 

 You put negativity first and look how dunce you've become.

I can't let you drag me down and I have to cut you off for real. Good luck on your journey. 

Spatial Mind said: 

Turncoat said: 

Spatial Mind said: 

When you find what you're looking for, there will be no way to prove it to anyone else.

That's a pretty big statement to make when we have an entire history of people proving things successfully. 

She's doing soul searching.

More specifically she's looking for meaning. There's been more than just "souls" on her mind lately, she's been questioning the entire life experience. 

Privacy is a part of this physical experience, and like all other things we experience here, it's very profound. 

It sounds more like a way to live with half-baked ideas uncorrected. 

You put negativity first and look how dunce you've become.

Why don't you tell me since I'm too dumb to see it? 

I can't let you drag me down and I have to cut you off for real. Good luck on your journey. 

More like you can't let yourself be stress tested from being too weak and fragile to handle it.