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I just finished watching that and I started Avatar: The Legend of Korra.

I liked what I saw.

 

What do you think about the show and who is your favorite character and why, if you have seen it?

 

My favorite is Iroh, he takes on life the way I try to, can't say I always succeed, but he is way older, right.

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I'm sorry to say, but I gave Legend of Korra a solid chance, I wanted to like it. I can sit here and list many many solid merrits for it, but what really hurt their show was how they thought they were going to be canceled at the end of seasons one and two. They end up changing villains every single season, but only really find their flow in ways that make it work in season three. They have WONDERFUL concepting, such as having Chi Blocking spread to the average populace in season one to oppose bender oppression, but then by season two they just FORGET ALL ABOUT IT

A lot of what makes Korra bad is the reduced impacts of the Ehasz's. The wife's the backbone of The Last Airbender's best stories and otherwise had an advisory role for lore consistency and immersion of the setting, and the husband was quite good in his own right even if not as great at it as she is. 

The writers that stayed behind to keep writing were also egotards about people critiquing their work. They end up trying to destroy all the Ehasz's built as the story goes on and fans complain about how their decisions "Aren't as good as they were in The Last Airbender", pissing them off further. By season two they outright destroy her connection to the first series... BY FORCE

The show's also super guilty of "too many characters" syndrome, among a slew of other issues like poor character writing/concepting (save for Korra herself for concept anyway, she was a fun idea that they didn't know what the fuck to do with until season three). They even shit on the mysticism by turning the avatar into a fucked up spiritual yin/yang mess instead of the elemental spectrum that reflects actual Eastern culture more to it's core. 


If you're going to watch Legend of Korra, go into it thinking it's not "The Last Airbender" and there's a chance you'll see redeeming qualities. I only really enjoyed it from seeing the evolution of the writing organically try to figure itself out when a lot of mistakes were made in ways that leave it far, far too late, and the concepts they came up with for their worldbuilding was still solid at many points of the story even if their use of them is usually lackluster (with the spirits shit in season two as the absolute worst). 

Edit: Their combat scenes if you skip season two are also very solid. 

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last edit on 10/13/2019 1:44:36 PM
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As for The Last Airbender, I don't even know where to start from loving it so much. I've started falling into an every other year cycle of watching it on average to see things I didn't spot before (like Air Temple lore that's shown but not discussed purely through background art solely, no dialogue or anything). 

As a random trivia-ish side note though, a surprising amount of it falls into the elemental understandings of astrological behavior for their sun signs consistently from point A to point B of the story with lines that at points give it away (Aang's a Libra, Katara's a Scorpio, Sokka's a Cancer, Toph's a Taurus, Zuko's an Aries, Iroh's a Sagittarius, Azula's a Leo, etc). 

I'll use this topic to repost some fun stuff from it though I guess, as this show's fucking wonderful. Frankly though the writers in their current form need to let the show stand forever as an eternal success instead of trying to redo it over and over to relive their former glory. 

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last edit on 10/13/2019 1:36:25 PM
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This video is super good, like super, super good. 



I have a decent critique that tears Legend of Korra to shreds within real reasons and only a few areas I disagree with, but that ought to be after you've at least tried the show once or twice. 

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last edit on 10/13/2019 1:40:32 PM
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I'll also say, bar none, no other show has done nearly as good of a recap flashback clipshow episode as Avatar The Last Airbender. 

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Right, their sound crew also deserves a shout out: 

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Even their underrated characters make for surprisingly good compilations: 



The animators really pay excessive attention to form. The fight scenes between Aang and Zuko (that appear to have been ripped offline) back when he could only air bend are some of the best. 

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Chakra's a load of hooey, but it's surprisingly close to the actual source material (with smatterings of good advice in it). I also appreciate the natural critique the show has present within it against the idea, and is one of the sources (alongside stuff like Fight Club) that I tend to show as examples of speaking out against Eastern Detachment. 

Some of the show's more interesting conceptual writing comes out when it's critiquing Air Bending practices, showing the flaws. Even Legend of Korra has that as one of it's more redeeming elements with their Big Bad in Season Three. 

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last edit on 10/13/2019 2:57:51 PM
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Oh man I loved A:TLAS and can't help but suggest it to others if they haven't already watched it. The writing pace was great and Azulas descent into madness was probably my favorite part of the entire series.

I gave A:TLOK a chance but couldn't get as interested as I had been in Aangs story. With Korra it was an exploration of the culture and problems between benders and non benders (in season one anyway, idk where you're at so I'm not gonna spoil) and I thought that was great, but the writing was definitely rushed and you could feel it. The first season could have easily have been expanded into 2 or 3 books but it's wasn't and the problem/big bad/plot within the first season was largely forgotten about in the second season and I sorta gave up there. Korra didn't pick up my interest like Aang did even though I wanted to like it. 

Favorite character would have to be Azula. She was a product of her environment and was shamed for it causing her to be resentful towards her mother and further pushing her into the mold her father wanted. She's very awkward when put into situations where there is no clear end goal as seen in the beach party. She makes puns and has a great deadpan sense of humor and she's really just hnnng.

last edit on 10/13/2019 4:37:24 PM
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Favorite character would have to be Azula. She was a product of her environment and was shamed for it causing her to be resentful towards her mother and further pushing her into the mold her father wanted. She's very awkward when put into situations where there is no clear end goal as seen in the beach party. She makes puns and has a great deadpan sense of humor and she's really just hnnng.

Did you check the Azula Psychology video I linked in here? 

She's such a good character. Even how they represent her fights with Zuko are always a reflection of their current mental states. It's like debating, but with fire

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