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0 votes RE: Why is doxxing up for debate?

Seriously, they aren't fucking followers, they have individual autonomy with their own motivations. It's not like it's some conspiracy in the works by yours truly,

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Spatial Mind said:
This is about TC's desire to dox others by posting their personal information with the intent to bully and harass them. Namely Med for now, as we can see he's itching to do, then me again, and one day someone else.

She said this once before, unprovoked, in relation to Med while putting a picture of her that was once blurred back up. 

Seriously, they aren't fucking followers, they have individual autonomy with their own motivations. It's not like it's some conspiracy in the works by yours truly, these people found their way there perfectly fine on their own with prior behaviors that reflect it as patterns within their natures. 

 I honestly dont give a rats ass about that Nate. Im talking about you.

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Spatial Mind said:
This is about TC's desire to dox others by posting their personal information with the intent to bully and harass them. Namely Med for now, as we can see he's itching to do, then me again, and one day someone else.

She said this once before, unprovoked, in relation to Med while putting a picture of her that was once blurred back up. 

Seriously, they aren't fucking followers, they have individual autonomy with their own motivations. It's not like it's some conspiracy in the works by yours truly, these people found their way there perfectly fine on their own with prior behaviors that reflect it as patterns within their natures. 

 I honestly dont give a rats ass about that Nate. Im talking about you.

 You cared earlier while you were dodging discussion.

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One thing some of you might know about me, is when a discussion is full of shit, I'm not always obliged to consider riding the merry go round.

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One thing some of you might know about me, is when a discussion is full of shit, I'm not always obliged to consider riding the merry go round.

 Just push it in circles instead?

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Cain said: 

One thing some of you might know about me, is when a discussion is full of shit, I'm not always obliged to consider riding the merry go round.

 Just push it in circles instead?

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SC's rules came about when moderation was needed to combat child pornography being spammed on the site. Which at the time caused members to leave SC.

Actually no, it came multiple years prior because of Dexter spamming our forum with plain ol' spam. You were there.

CP was much further in our history than rules were.

SC's dox rules are not based on a mod's desires on how thing's should be, it's dox rules are based off of a democracy, lead by a majority of the regular user base.

Yes, and in older topics we'd settled on things like the vanity clause, again, as a compromise between SC's original "No Rules" mindset that enjoyed doxing and defamation and the otherwise more scared people who project as if they were the victim.

It was a lot of topics with a lot of posts, mulled over at different points of Luna's SC history over... and over, being further refined as we were exposed to new stuff.

Through this process the majority has decided that they should be granted mercy when SC becomes more of a liability to their personal lives.

Orrrr it could eventually be put to a vote once enough people are aware of what's going on, instead of you merely projecting yourself onto the website as if I'm some foreign agenda.

The removal of personal information from a place where their aggressors will get their kicks from getting their target swatted, or destroyed for sport.

What forum is this again? Our history is littered with treating this as a legitimate tactic, and you were largely an outlier back then.

It's one thing to make a huff and want to change the rule, but you're committing outright fabrication. It's like you're describing a different website instead of sociopath community, a place where you very well know you've witnessed what you'd call "atrocities" that otherwise went on because of our agreed upon clauses and subclauses.

If it were how you remember it, so much of it would have never happened. You can argue that that'd have been for the better, but doxing has always been a notable part of SC culture.

TC has falsified the mods position on SC's democratically elected rules, then went on to say the mods are calling shots, in an effort to dismantle the democratic people's golden rules, in exchange for dated rules.

When was it "democratically" changed into the rules you're imagining up? If it's so harmoniously agreed on, why are there people who don't remember it in the way that... frankly makes no sense when it comes to historical causality.

I've otherwise already explained how it was "mods are calling the shots"... multiple times now, but I'm sure you skipped it so I'll do you the favor of pasting it here for you:

mods didnt say they were "changing" the rules...

Exactly, instead they were just enforcing "what they think was already the case", so "nothing's changing guys, nothing to see here" is an easy narrative for them to give when they really mean that they aren't changing what they've been doing as opposed to the originally agreed upon praxis. 

"No rules are changing" when mods are otherwise not on the same page and all doing different things from each other is fucking sloppy. 

If you keep skipping the truths that others have to show you, they're going to see that truth about you themselves. It's been full circle a few times tonight as Cain put it, so there's other instances of me saying similarly scattered about.

To say the least his malicious episode will grant the oppertunity to cast votes on what the new dox rule will be, and he wants you to believe "Mods do whatever they want" 

It wasn't being proposed as a vote until I moved it here.

For emphasis:

Why are you so mad that I brought this discussion to the forum? I mean even now you can see it if you'd look, people claiming "This was always the rule" and just going with what they'd prefer. The rule now is "Mods do what they want" because we are all on different pages, and that is a new rule until it's otherwise discussed towards either what it used to be or where it ought to be. 

If people start acting like the rule was one way but enforce another, then the rule's really another, and thereby changed. This "Nothing to See Here" attitude's not really good for discussing community matters, especially when the community should be a part of policy instead of just some people assuming they know what's going on doing their own agendas. 
 

Like damn. The guy himself is a mod, and he knows that his accusations against the rest of us is untrue, as none of us cross the line of out duty to serve the community.

People need to be protected from the mods sometimes, we aren't angels we're people, and we need to be on their level instead of keeping them out of things from wanting to avoid how loud people can be.

I've often found otherwise that they risk ending up doing more damages than the trolls could ever hope to do.

Id like to clarify 1 thing. YOUR VOTE is not a vote against mods. It's a vote on how much damage you'll allow your fellow comrades to take, and how much damage you'll take in the event a sock puppet starts doxing you. 

A vote for Spatial's idea of down on request is a vote for a suffocating Hugbox. He doesn't even ask what lines qualify as "a friend" for the clauses here while otherwise continuing to defend "you can take down your friend's dox".

He doesn't want to address a view beyond his own ideal one, and at this point he seems to think the forum unanimously agreed with him around the time the forum became "Pro Tony".

 

be sure to secure your personal information and social media accounts. Trust no one with applications like Whatsapp or even email. Shairing things like digital photos should have no geolocation data on them, cause there will spawn a troll like TC and RTT that will threaten to insert lies into your life.

It's like Spite said:

spite said: 

How about:

If you put it out there yourself, anywhere, not just here, and it's accessible to someone here, then it's your fault. Make your stuff private. Don't give people enough personal information to find your shit if you're worried about them embarrassing you with your empty LinkedIn profile. Internet 101. Didn't your parents tell you not to give out personal information to strangers? You think that applies to sending them selfies and shit? Duh.

^ Essentially the Edvard defense, one of the few I agree with. 

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0 votes RE: Why is doxxing up for debate?

One thing some of you might know about me, is when a discussion is full of shit, I'm not always obliged to consider riding the merry go round.

Just because you're confused doesn't mean people are misleading you. 

There's a truth beyond the expectancy you carry. 

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