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Spatial Mind said: 

Whorechata said: 

TONY THE MICE HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH MGTOW

 They have nothing to do with human beings either. Yet this model heeds a warning to us.

What causes a man and a woman to separate from one another, is typically despicable behaviors, ideologies and beliefs, much of what I find is false. But one way or another, it'll be implemented while our population reaches critical mass. Kinda like Japan. It's a very congested place. 

What deters Japanese men from wanting to date has to do with their economy, and what women expect of them. In Japan, money comes first, and if you ask me that is a recipe for illness in a relationship. 

 Actually Calhoun was heavily criticized for comparing them to humans too. And this experiment was meant to simulate an over population issue, the rat prison was meant to hold at max capacity 3000+/-, they never got to that point. Before deaths started hitting more rapidly due to old age there was only around 1000 left and like I said before he did the mice universes at least 100 more times ultimately finding that when you give them everything they could want with little to no effort on their parts the mices' social roles and cycles become stagnant, break down and ultimately changes their behavior. The beautiful ones were the outcome and they could not cope or interact to keep themselves alive and continue the species.

Following universe 25 and there a bit after he found that giving them a creative outlets or purpose actually had the mice functioning normally. It was meant to show us the population problem not be used as part of a gender agenda/MGTOW movement

Again, the problem is not singular to Japan. Hikikomori phenomenon (for lack of a better word) has been reported in Oman, Spain, SKorea, Hong Kong, India, France, Austria, the US, China, Brazil and Canada and there's nothing that says states that they choose to go hikikomori because they would rather not have to bother with women when there's a good amount of women that are also hikikomori. The only thing that has been speculated regarding gender is that women might have a better time leaving the hikikomori lifestyle than men. Perhaps they have a better irl support system. It's possible that these people are introverts going hardcore. 

As for Japanese men being deterred from dating because of the economy, could you link this?

Spatial Mind said: 

Also, in the mouse experiment, it's not that the females were rendered infertile, it just came to a point where all the males, including the rapists, refrained from mating which lead to extinction. 

 The females also stopped mating, it wasn't just the males. The females even went out of their way to nest in the upper levels where the mothers and baby mousies couldn't reach them. The breakdown of roles caused the previous mothers to abandon or eat the young not equipping those that survived with the nurturing skills to care for babies

As I stated the economy is partial to them not dating, and this is due to living expenses and intense working hours. 

When the typical working class comes home, it's very late, and they are out the door early morning. It's actually common for workforces in Japan to have naptime for their employees as it increases productivity. Economically, they don't have time for dating, but aside from that, Japanese women, like Chinese woman place money above genuine connection with their spouses. Some men find this off putting, while others simply can't afford it. It's kinda like prostitution. 

As for dating issues in Japan and women you can look that up. 

Ironically, I'm going on a date right now. 

Spatial Mind said: 

As I stated the economy is partial to them not dating, and this is due to living expenses and intense working hours. 

When the typical working class comes home, it's very late, and they are out the door early morning. It's actually common for workforces in Japan to have naptime for their employees as it increases productivity. Economically, they don't have time for dating, but aside from that, Japanese women, like Chinese woman place money above genuine connection with their spouses. Some men find this off putting, while others simply can't afford it. It's kinda like prostitution. 

 

As for dating issues in Japan and women you can look that up. 

Ironically, I'm going on a date right now. 

 So aside from hikikomori it's also a celibacy issue, and Japan has always celebrated working long hour and being productive members of society, those who fail at this may shut themselves away to not deal with the shameful fact. It's true that religion is wanting for lots of the younger generation and traditional gender roles has men being the bread winner and forcing the women to stay at home and perhaps that's part of the reason for decline in marriage and birthrates. Ah, but I didn't see the part where it says women place value over genuine connection with their husbands?

You didn't see that part o know, which is why i said you'll have to look up the dating issues.

Spatial Mind said: 

You didn't see that part o know, which is why i said you'll have to look up the dating issues.

But you're the one presenting the argument, shouldn't the burden of proof be on you? 

Turncoat said: 

Spatial Mind said: 

You didn't see that part o know, which is why i said you'll have to look up the dating issues.

But you're the one presenting the argument, shouldn't the burden of proof be on you? 

 It's such an easy assignment though. Plus i had to run.

Spatial Mind said: 

Turncoat said: 

Spatial Mind said: 

You didn't see that part o know, which is why i said you'll have to look up the dating issues.

But you're the one presenting the argument, shouldn't the burden of proof be on you? 

 It's such an easy assignment though. Plus i had to run.

 I would rather read the article you read so that we're on the same page (badumtss) 

Whorechata said: 

Spatial Mind said: 

Turncoat said: 

Spatial Mind said: 

You didn't see that part o know, which is why i said you'll have to look up the dating issues.

But you're the one presenting the argument, shouldn't the burden of proof be on you? 

 It's such an easy assignment though. Plus i had to run.

 I would rather read the article you read so that we're on the same page (badumtss) 

Exactly. If someone makes a claim, it's up to them to back it up. 

To do otherwise risks arguing with a strawman that resembles his points instead of his actual points, like how he keeps claiming we're "programmed" instead of actually arguing. Ad hom strats, the usual from him. 

Well this is something I've known for a long time so its not like i have it bookmarked.

When I'm skeptical about things I'm able to research it with results. Do you really need me to find this for you Lena ?