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What killed Luna SC (in a nutshell)


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1. CP posters

While it's true CP posters started all of this, you old people should've been prepared for a case like this and went on about repelling it properly, especially since most of the management knew about the nature of the community for years if not over a decade.

2. Management: Luna/Michael, Ed, Turncoat, Inquirer (later also Tony)

• Getting double edged "passive measures" implemented to "counter CP". This killed SC spirit directly from within. You are fucking mods, act like it and do your jobs without ruining the experience for others. To remind you from the top of my head, for new accounts: No registering through Tor/proxies, not being able to embed images, not being able to chat and having to fill out captcha with every post. This literally killed all anonymity & joy a puppet could have, and made it a pain in the ass that just wasn't worth it. Not to mention, no new person could want to stick around with those limitations, who knows how many potential regulars were lost because of your fuck-ups.

• Making Luna paranoid about CP that is posted. Short and sweet, you made her extremely invested into the site to the degree she felt like she had to watch over all, get herself involved, add new features (that all went against SC's core mind you, such as senate or when you could see when somebody was typing), intervene with the physics and be there 24/7, which was a big factor that made her crack in the end.

• Banning CP posters (or members in general). You gain nothing from banning somebody other than PR and/or feeling good for 2 minutes. Unless it's a special exception of limp dicked person like Primal, you just gave the poster an incentive to return on tor and post more as retaliation without holding back since they have nothing to lose. This mistake also made the "passive measures" fuck-up stated above necessary, which is another fuck up. Both do kill the "SC spirit". Instead, mods should have a feature to delete a user's last XXX posts without banning them, where XXX is a number mods can set (should be added to here too).

• Ban on sights. Just gonna say: XD

I might have forgotten some, but just with the fuck-ups mentioned, the community started feeling off and joined the bandwagon with "the goons". There was low to no coordination with people who hadn't been banned on SC and "goons", they did all by themselves i.e. speaking up, trolling Luna and so on.

SC is all about politics, if you try to keep somebody away by force, they will likely go glass cannon about it. If you weren't retarded to try to enforce this, you wouldn't have needed to do watch shifts as 5 mods to keep the site clean. Turncoat and Tony are the most harmless offenders among the mods but not innocent. Turncoat rooted for "passive measures" but was unwilling to ban on sight (lost his mod spot for it...for his own good considering his obsession with the site), and Tony modded the way Luna wanted but also tried to get things resolved between us and the mods to put an end to the conflict (denied by Luna/other mods all the time).

last edit on 5/1/2019 10:24:50 AM
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that's nice, time to move on 

get over it

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in fear of everything we see
in fear of death and misery
we call the court we cast the runes
and pray to god for our fortunes
overkill

Cheery bye!
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lol STFU you're irrelevant go suck Jim's cawk some more xd

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Honestly what killed S-C was Lunas tantrums, we lost more valuable members each time she shut down the site or banned people. Lots of people didn't want to put up with a teenager throwing a wobbly everytime someone poked fun at her. 

The CP came after and is what stagnated the 'spirit' of SC, but it wasn't what fully killed it.

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One day even this site will come to an end, and when it does, it'll be very different.

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Alena said: 

Honestly what killed S-C was Lunas tantrums, we lost more valuable members each time she shut down the site or banned people. Lots of people didn't want to put up with a teenager throwing a wobbly everytime someone poked fun at her. 

The CP came after and is what stagnated the 'spirit' of SC, but it wasn't what fully killed it.

 Luna rarely ever came around after the Kiwifarms drama. People bombing her email and exaggerating the CP issue made her be on the forum all day and start shit again.

See 2.2:

• Making Luna paranoid about CP that is posted. Short and sweet, you made her extremely invested into the site to the degree she felt like she had to watch over all, get herself involved, add new features (that all went against SC's core mind you, such as senate or when you could see when somebody was typing), intervene with the physics and be there 24/7, which was a big factor that made her crack in the end.

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Xadem said: 

that's nice, time to move on 

get over it

 I like being right and shoving it in people's faces. :^)

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Cawk said: 

2. Management: Luna/Michael, Ed, Turncoat, Inquirer (later also Tony)

• Getting double edged "passive measures" implemented to "counter CP". This killed SC spirit directly from within. You are fucking mods, act like it and do your jobs without ruining the experience for others. To remind you from the top of my head, for new accounts: No registering through Tor/proxies, not being able to embed images, not being able to chat and having to fill out captcha with every post. This literally killed all anonymity & joy a puppet could have, and made it a pain in the ass that just wasn't worth it. Not to mention, no new person could want to stick around with those limitations, who knows how many potential regulars were lost because of your fuck-ups.

Why am I lumped into this one? The last of many times that I was demodded this stuff wasn't even a factor on her website (EC timeline). 

• Making Luna paranoid about CP that is posted. Short and sweet, you made her extremely invested into the site to the degree she felt like she had to watch over all, get herself involved, add new features (that all went against SC's core mind you, such as senate or when you could see when somebody was typing), intervene with the physics and be there 24/7, which was a big factor that made her crack in the end.

She went more insane about photos of herself and quotes/critiques about her than CP...

Did you forget that huge span of time where she just smoked weed during the first major CP scare? 

• Banning CP posters (or members in general). You gain nothing from banning somebody other than PR and/or feeling good for 2 minutes.

It basically just shows the spammers that bans mean nothing. It's an exercise in futility if you make them not want to be there and demonstrate the website's powerlessness at the same time. 

They have to not want to lose their account to be shackled by it, much like when I gave Sinister a banned account of her choice back as a "reward" for not spamming for a week. What makes an account have weight is their level of personal investment in it. 

• Ban on sights. Just gonna say: XD

I might have forgotten some, but just with the fuck-ups mentioned, the community started feeling off and joined the bandwagon with "the goons". There was low to no coordination with people who hadn't been banned on SC and "goons", they did all by themselves i.e. speaking up, trolling Luna and so on.

The Xadem Bandwagon was pretty brutal. 

Turncoat rooted for "passive measures" but was unwilling to ban on sight (lost his mod spot for it...for his own good considering his obsession with the site)

So are you saying ban on sight is good or bad then? I swear you've insulted both in the same post. 

As you've said, this website is about social politics and you've demonstrated how pointless bans really were. Assuming Luna would do all the same shit, what would you have done in a mod seat? 

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She was only 16 when she was maneuvered into it. 

Not hard to understand, now is it?

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