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The swarms of decadent tides of chaotic grazing cattle and the gentle hum of cicadas buzzing at one another offer the modern man a grim sense of complacency in general when confronted by the degenerate cultures that call his name like a poltergeist beaconing one to partake in the indecency surrounding lest he be forgotten, lest he grow weary with age unable to sustain the new age and participate adequately especially leading around sheep like your BPD friend with autism.

But let me warn you as I have observed this in countless individuals in these parasitic tides of modernity, you and your friend seem to have a really bad homosexual dynamic or something going on. I just returned from a hiatus reading Evola so let me speak on this matter to further elucidate you so you can protect yourself and your friend from the disease of homosexuality.

Picture it like this. You're at your social media chatroom, this is like being the last two people at the bar thats been trying to close for a while now. Your friend does not want it to close and at the same time, needs it to close so he can be alone with you. He's probably not histrionic, he's just really pent up from not having homosexual intercourse with you and so he is taking it out on all of your friends. I would recommend blocking him or sending him to this forum so that his aristocratic and natural heirarchical values can get updated outside of your normal social settings if you're not sure you can deal with him alone. Also try calling in random welfare checks when you're trying to have normal discussions with others and he's getting in the way of this. This will distract him for about 10 minutes, maybe longer if you're lucky so that you can have some privacy. Sounds like a very complex dynamic. Good luck my brother!

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Another thing about "Either he leads or you're on the same level"

Keep it so you're on the same level, and after time he WILL, give it up to you cause you're so damn precious. His offset isn't the same as your. His ego is that of an insecure one, case the truth is always pressing him to keep up, and he does his darndest to be right all the time. For this reason, you can never claim or practice being a head, but eventually his defenses will consider you safe to let in and in doing so, his defense mechanisms will NOT feel threatened when he regards you as greater than himself. He'll have no choice when you showcase time and time again patience. He'll see in you a greatness he himself cannot achieve. What he strives to be comes natural to you. If not now, it will come to be in the future. He'll see that you're more stable then not only himself, but everyone else, that alone demands his respect and he it'll come to a point where his defenses will not resist you. When you're in you can shut him down easily by being dismissive or being anything of what he is, except you do it for better reasons. He can still be obnoxious when you're at that level of status with him. Madness of two still plays a role, he'll adopt you, but you'll adopt him, but you have to wait for him to adopt being more like you, as you must never walk ahead of him, lest you trigger his defenses.

One of my narcissistic friends, even his woman thinks it's strange. He's always "Me and Ant, or Ant and I" when he speaks. ( Yes I'm an Anthony ) He speaks everything as "we", it's kinda mental, but that's what he became when it comes to me, even when he's talking out of his ass. 

There will come a time where you won't talk as much, then time comes where you're back at it again, and you'll see how he missed you. And he'll wear a new mask, not to conceal his true self, this mask will be worn to delight you as he takes appreciates you. That mask becomes real and he'll start listening to you more and more, I kid you not. However, your atheism can reset that or cause setbacks for the respect you deserve. He will not change his mind on his spirituality unless he himself decides to do so. Cutting it down is a bit of a push. 

SedeVacante said: 

The swarms of decadent tides of chaotic grazing cattle and the gentle hum of cicadas buzzing at one another offer the modern man a grim sense of complacency in general when confronted by the degenerate cultures that call his name like a poltergeist beaconing one to partake in the indecency surrounding lest he be forgotten, lest he grow weary with age unable to sustain the new age and participate adequately especially leading around sheep like your BPD friend with autism.

But let me warn you as I have observed this in countless individuals in these parasitic tides of modernity, you and your friend seem to have a really bad homosexual dynamic or something going on. I just returned from a hiatus reading Evola so let me speak on this matter to further elucidate you so you can protect yourself and your friend from the disease of homosexuality.

Picture it like this. You're at your social media chatroom, this is like being the last two people at the bar thats been trying to close for a while now. Your friend does not want it to close and at the same time, needs it to close so he can be alone with you. He's probably not histrionic, he's just really pent up from not having homosexual intercourse with you and so he is taking it out on all of your friends. I would recommend blocking him or sending him to this forum so that his aristocratic and natural heirarchical values can get updated outside of your normal social settings if you're not sure you can deal with him alone. Also try calling in random welfare checks when you're trying to have normal discussions with others and he's getting in the way of this. This will distract him for about 10 minutes, maybe longer if you're lucky so that you can have some privacy. Sounds like a very complex dynamic. Good luck my brother!

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 Heh.

I don't particularly focus on that being a sexual thing, and that's supposed to be my job to cry out ones sexuality in these parts.

This community is widely comprised of homosexuality so it wouldn't surprise me if cx3 was also a homosexual. I simply don't know. 

SedeVacante said: 

The swarms of decadent tides of chaotic grazing cattle and the gentle hum of cicadas buzzing at one another offer the modern man a grim sense of complacency in general when confronted by the degenerate cultures that call his name like a poltergeist beaconing one to partake in the indecency surrounding lest he be forgotten, lest he grow weary with age unable to sustain the new age and participate adequately especially leading around sheep like your BPD friend with autism.

But let me warn you as I have observed this in countless individuals in these parasitic tides of modernity, you and your friend seem to have a really bad homosexual dynamic or something going on. I just returned from a hiatus reading Evola so let me speak on this matter to further elucidate you so you can protect yourself and your friend from the disease of homosexuality.

Picture it like this. You're at your social media chatroom, this is like being the last two people at the bar thats been trying to close for a while now. Your friend does not want it to close and at the same time, needs it to close so he can be alone with you. He's probably not histrionic, he's just really pent up from not having homosexual intercourse with you and so he is taking it out on all of your friends. I would recommend blocking him or sending him to this forum so that his aristocratic and natural heirarchical values can get updated outside of your normal social settings if you're not sure you can deal with him alone. Also try calling in random welfare checks when you're trying to have normal discussions with others and he's getting in the way of this. This will distract him for about 10 minutes, maybe longer if you're lucky so that you can have some privacy. Sounds like a very complex dynamic. Good luck my brother!

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The lone wolves of divine nature naturally seek to destroy their loyalty to themselves amidst union of the Roman and German eagles.

Funny that you mention Evola considering he adopted the term Männerbund and mentions that these bands of brothers who have separated themselves from individuation are the core of every immaterial society. He even went as far as to say it was sacred, and as the individuals that are loyal to the people enact mundium, the two merge into a force that seeks to achieve one goal. This is mainly from men among the ruins and pagan imperialism and the metaphysics of war.

also, those who cannot conceive Friendship as a substantive love but only as a disguise or elaboration of Eros betray the fact that they have never had a Friend.

SedeVacante said:

The swarms of decadent tides of chaotic grazing cattle and the gentle hum of cicadas buzzing at one another offer the modern man a grim sense of complacency in general when confronted by the degenerate cultures that call his name like a poltergeist beaconing one to partake in the indecency surrounding lest he be forgotten, lest he grow weary with age unable to sustain the new age and participate adequately especially leading around sheep like your BPD friend with autism.

But let me warn you as I have observed this in countless individuals in these parasitic tides of modernity, you and your friend seem to have a really bad homosexual dynamic or something going on. I just returned from a hiatus reading Evola so let me speak on this matter to further elucidate you so you can protect yourself and your friend from the disease of homosexuality.

Picture it like this. You're at your social media chatroom, this is like being the last two people at the bar thats been trying to close for a while now. Your friend does not want it to close and at the same time, needs it to close so he can be alone with you. He's probably not histrionic, he's just really pent up from not having homosexual intercourse with you and so he is taking it out on all of your friends. I would recommend blocking him or sending him to this forum so that his aristocratic and natural heirarchical values can get updated outside of your normal social settings if you're not sure you can deal with him alone. Also try calling in random welfare checks when you're trying to have normal discussions with others and he's getting in the way of this. This will distract him for about 10 minutes, maybe longer if you're lucky so that you can have some privacy. Sounds like a very complex dynamic. Good luck my brother!

I think there are some useful ideas buried in this, but I'm not sure the "decadent cultures" and "complacency" framing actually establishes anything. People participating in modern culture or having different social values doesn't inherently make them degenerate, and having hierarchical values isn't inherently good either. A hierarchy can just as easily create opportunities for domination and exploitation.

I do think there could be some benefit in CX3's friend becoming less preoccupied with other people and less dependent on constantly connecting with them. From what CX3 described, his fixation on other people's attention seems to be causing a lot of his problems. Becoming more comfortable with solitude and having less need for external validation could potentially help.

But then you seem to sneak an anti-homosexuality premise into the middle of that. There's no evidence that CX3's friend's behavior is caused by suppressed homosexual desire, and homosexuality isn't a disease that needs to be protected from. If the useful conclusion is that he should become less dependent on other people's attention, that conclusion doesn't require the extra ideological baggage.

Spatial Mind said: 

Another thing about "Either he leads or you're on the same level"

Keep it so you're on the same level, and after time he WILL, give it up to you cause you're so damn precious. His offset isn't the same as your. His ego is that of an insecure one, case the truth is always pressing him to keep up, and he does his darndest to be right all the time. For this reason, you can never claim or practice being a head, but eventually his defenses will consider you safe to let in and in doing so, his defense mechanisms will NOT feel threatened when he regards you as greater than himself. He'll have no choice when you showcase time and time again patience. He'll see in you a greatness he himself cannot achieve. What he strives to be comes natural to you. If not now, it will come to be in the future. He'll see that you're more stable then not only himself, but everyone else, that alone demands his respect and he it'll come to a point where his defenses will not resist you. When you're in you can shut him down easily by being dismissive or being anything of what he is, except you do it for better reasons. He can still be obnoxious when you're at that level of status with him. Madness of two still plays a role, he'll adopt you, but you'll adopt him, but you have to wait for him to adopt being more like you, as you must never walk ahead of him, lest you trigger his defenses.

One of my narcissistic friends, even his woman thinks it's strange. He's always "Me and Ant, or Ant and I" when he speaks. ( Yes I'm an Anthony ) He speaks everything as "we", it's kinda mental, but that's what he became when it comes to me, even when he's talking out of his ass. 

There will come a time where you won't talk as much, then time comes where you're back at it again, and you'll see how he missed you. And he'll wear a new mask, not to conceal his true self, this mask will be worn to delight you as he takes appreciates you. That mask becomes real and he'll start listening to you more and more, I kid you not. However, your atheism can reset that or cause setbacks for the respect you deserve. He will not change his mind on his spirituality unless he himself decides to do so. Cutting it down is a bit of a push. 

I think this is where the speculation gets pretty extreme, and where you're romanticizing the narcissistic framing quite a bit. You're describing a very specific future progression as though it's something that will inevitably happen: CX3 remains patient, his friend eventually sees him as greater, his defenses stop resisting, he adopts more of CX3's traits, and eventually his new "mask" becomes genuine. I don't see enough information here to predict any of that.

I'm also not sure why the desired outcome needs to be CX3 eventually being "greater" than him. If the problem is that his ego makes him competitive, dependent on validation, and unable to tolerate being wrong, I'd think reducing the importance of that hierarchy would be more useful than establishing a better hierarchy with CX3 at the top.

Likewise, having to carefully avoid "walking ahead" of him so you don't trigger his defenses sounds less like a healthy friendship and more like managing someone around their ego. If CX3 has to suppress his annoyance and carefully regulate how he interacts with him, that may simply mean he's doing a lot of emotional labor to keep the relationship functioning.

I also don't think his dependence on CX3 necessarily makes the relationship unusually profound. If he genuinely relies on CX3 for validation and emotional regulation, that could simply mean he's dependent on one person. Calling CX3 his "Spock," saying he's uniquely precious, or predicting that he'll eventually recognize CX3's "greatness" turns that dependency into something almost flattering or romantic.

And I wouldn't treat the "new mask" idea as established psychology. If he changes his behavior because he learns to trust CX3 or finds certain behaviors more useful, that's simply a change in behavior. There's no need to assume it's a mask that will eventually become his true self.

If he eventually becomes more receptive to CX3's influence, that's possible, but I wouldn't build a relationship around expecting it. Reducing the importance of the hierarchy seems more useful than creating another hierarchy where CX3 eventually becomes the person above him.

cx3 said:

The lone wolves of divine nature naturally seek to destroy their loyalty to themselves amidst union of the Roman and German eagles.

Funny that you mention Evola considering he adopted the term Männerbund and mentions that these bands of brothers who have separated themselves from individuation are the core of every immaterial society. He even went as far as to say it was sacred, and as the individuals that are loyal to the people enact mundium, the two merge into a force that seeks to achieve one goal. This is mainly from men among the ruins and pagan imperialism and the metaphysics of war.

also, those who cannot conceive Friendship as a substantive love but only as a disguise or elaboration of Eros betray the fact that they have never had a Friend.

I think there's also a more straightforward way of explaining the substantive attachment involved in friendship without needing to interpret it through the more metaphysical or romanticist language here. Humans have neurochemical systems involved in bonding, trust, familiarity, and social reward that aren't exclusive to sexual relationships. Oxytocin is one example, while dopamine and endogenous opioids are also involved in social reward and attachment.

So two people can genuinely experience affection, attachment, comfort, and even significant distress at separation without that affection being sexual. Strong attachment by itself isn't evidence of suppressed sexual desire.

I also wouldn't necessarily interpret the intensity of friendship as evidence of some "divine nature" or immaterial force. The attachment can be completely real and significant while still having ordinary psychological and biological mechanisms behind it. I think that's actually more interesting than needing to make the friendship supernatural or metaphysical.

Dragoonback said:

 I think this is where the speculation gets pretty extreme, and where you're romanticizing the narcissistic framing quite a bit.

Of course. They are friends. If you're going to keep such a person in your life, then keep them well, or else you'll end up with a monster you'll discard. 

In psychology people are told to run away and avoid such people. Or toxic people in general. Even professionals are warned to treat carefully with cluster b types. People get wrecked by narcissistic feedback, but not everyone. Not the people the narcissist respects, which are far and few between. 

You're describing a very specific future progression as though it's something that will inevitably happen: CX3 remains patient, his friend eventually sees him as greater, his defenses stop resisting, he adopts more of CX3's traits, and eventually his new "mask" becomes genuine. I don't see enough information here to predict any of that.

Yes, and as long as cx3 maintains the connection with hospitality, it is inevitable unless cx3 decides to discard his friend.  

I'm also not sure why the desired outcome needs to be CX3 eventually being "greater" than him.

By default cx3 will be seen greater by his friend, even if he never says it, but eventually he will express this, not by saying he's greater, but really great. Some will call it a social construct, but cx3 would actually be seen as greater since his friend is generally toxic and not just anyone would put up with his shit. A narcissist CAN, see someone as great, even inspirational. When they see this in people they don't particularly like, it comes in the form of envy. cx3 will inspire him cause his friend does know his own weaknesses, he is him, he experiences his weaknesses and sees his triggers a mile away, he'll see that cx3 doesn't run from the same inner turmoil he does, that commands respect. It's already like this cause, the one guy his friend doesn't belittle is who ? cx3.

When a narcissist sees you as greater, they compete. They will seem kinda retarded when they do what their inspiration would've done. They will bring it up as if it's something to talk about, be all upbeat about it, and nod at the one who inspires them. It's like "see ? look at me ? I can do it too"..... I swear it's like that.

If the problem is that his ego makes him competitive, dependent on validation, and unable to tolerate being wrong, I'd think reducing the importance of that hierarchy would be more useful than establishing a better hierarchy with CX3 at the top.

Hierarchy will be naturally selected. It's not a matter of trying to be better, it's a matter of the narcissist seeing something in cx3 he admires, and it can be many things, his capacity to let things slide even if it's awkward, he'll express humility just several traits the narcissist lacks, he'll see that are strength. He'll see cx3 is more comfortable. In a nutshell the hierarchy will be decided by appreciation. 

Likewise, having to carefully avoid "walking ahead" of him so you don't trigger his defenses sounds less like a healthy friendship and more like managing someone around their ego. If CX3 has to suppress his annoyance and carefully regulate how he interacts with him, that may simply mean he's doing a lot of emotional labor to keep the relationship functioning.

There's an old saying, goes something like this...

Walk ahead of me, and I'm just your follower.

Walk behind me and you're a follower.

Walk next to me, and you're my friend. 

It's actually more friendly to walk with your friends Goon. What would you do, go running up ahead leaving everyone behind all the time ? It's quite rude and annoying to do that. I know someone like that, she has issues on the side with that. And sure every now and then its fine to walk up ahead if you're on the move, but we're talking about his friend with an ultra thin ego the size of Jupiter. and I'm writing a masterclass on how to handle a narcissist in this position. 

Giving someone else attention is a borderline trait, and they are pretty damn narcissistic at times too. But again, that is who cx3 is dealing with, if he so much as talks to someone else, or even walks ahead. 

I also don't think his dependence on CX3 necessarily makes the relationship unusually profound. If he genuinely relies on CX3 for validation and emotional regulation, that could simply mean he's dependent on one person. Calling CX3 his "Spock," saying he's uniquely precious, or predicting that he'll eventually recognize CX3's "greatness" turns that dependency into something almost flattering or romantic.

Yes. Romantic, I wouldn't know. Flattering for sure. They have been friends for a year and a half cx3 cares enough to figure him out, and again, cx3 is the ONE guy he doesn't belittle. 

Do you have any idea what that means ? 

And I wouldn't treat the "new mask" idea as established psychology. If he changes his behavior because he learns to trust CX3 or finds certain behaviors more useful, that's simply a change in behavior. There's no need to assume it's a mask that will eventually become his true self.

It's a mask. The person cx3's friend will become will only exist in cx3's presence. 

When cx3 isn't around, his friend's interactions with others they know, will slap harder. He will have more fallouts with people. 

One of my friends was in the mental ward once, his doctor wanted to see me cause my friend told him I study psychology. Great. They are trying to figure him out so what's my opinion. 

I said straight up in front of them ADHD and NPD. Bipolar tendencies. At that point my friend started talking about some other patient there teaching him how to play piano, and I said see ? That's the ADHD.

The point I'm making, this is how deep I recognize what I'm seeing here. I said I have 2 of those fuckers in my circle, for real.  

If he eventually becomes more receptive to CX3's influence, that's possible, but I wouldn't build a relationship around expecting it. Reducing the importance of the hierarchy seems more useful than creating another hierarchy where CX3 eventually becomes the person above him.

 cx3 already is the one above. Not that he's acting like a dick about it, his friend's mechanisms will have no choice but to respect him in ways he doesn't respect himself.

The friend is prone to extreme defensiveness. He's fragile. cx3 is the stable one. The peace of mind. The listener will become the advisor. 2 friends will recognize one anothers traits, just as cx3 sees him, he also sees cx3.

By no means is the friend retarded.

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I'd like to end this post by saying, bisexual ad hominem homosexual.

Narctimus_Prime said:

Of course. They are friends. If you're going to keep such a person in your life, then keep them well, or else you'll end up with a monster you'll discard. 

In psychology people are told to run away and avoid such people. Or toxic people in general. Even professionals are warned to treat carefully with cluster b types. People get wrecked by narcissistic feedback, but not everyone. Not the people the narcissist respects, which are far and few between. Yes, and as long as cx3 maintains the connection with hospitality, it is inevitable unless cx3 decides to discard his friend. By default cx3 will be seen greater by his friend, even if he never says it, but eventually he will express this, not by saying he's greater, but really great. Some will call it a social construct, but cx3 would actually be seen as greater since his friend is generally toxic and not just anyone would put up with his shit. A narcissist CAN, see someone as great, even inspirational. When they see this in people they don't particularly like, it comes in the form of envy. cx3 will inspire him cause his friend does know his own weaknesses, he is him, he experiences his weaknesses and sees his triggers a mile away, he'll see that cx3 doesn't run from the same inner turmoil he does, that commands respect. It's already like this cause, the one guy his friend doesn't belittle is who? cx3. When a narcissist sees you as greater, they compete. They will seem kinda retarded when they do what their inspiration would've done. They will bring it up as if it's something to talk about, be all upbeat about it, and nod at the one who inspires them. It's like "see? look at me? I can do it too"... I swear it's like that. Hierarchy will be naturally selected. It's not a matter of trying to be better, it's a matter of the narcissist seeing something in cx3 he admires, and it can be many things, his capacity to let things slide even if it's awkward, he'll express humility just several traits the narcissist lacks, he'll see that are strength. He'll see cx3 is more comfortable. In a nutshell the hierarchy will be decided by appreciation. There's an old saying, goes something like this...

Walk ahead of me, and I'm just your follower. Walk behind me and you're a follower. Walk next to me, and you're my friend. 

It's actually more friendly to walk with your friends Goon. What would you do, go running up ahead leaving everyone behind all the time? It's quite rude and annoying to do that. I know someone like that, she has issues on the side with that. And sure every now and then its fine to walk up ahead if you're on the move, but we're talking about his friend with an ultra thin ego the size of Jupiter and I'm writing a masterclass on how to handle a narcissist in this position. Giving someone else attention is a borderline trait, and they are pretty damn narcissistic at times too. But again, that is who cx3 is dealing with, if he so much as talks to someone else, or even walks ahead. Yes. Romantic, I wouldn't know. Flattering for sure. They have been friends for a year and a half cx3 cares enough to figure him out, and again, cx3 is the ONE guy he doesn't belittle. 

Do you have any idea what that means? It's a mask. The person cx3's friend will become will only exist in cx3's presence. When cx3 isn't around, his friend's interactions with others they know, will slap harder. He will have more fallouts with people. 

One of my friends was in the mental ward once, his doctor wanted to see me cause my friend told him I study psychology. Great. They are trying to figure him out so what's my opinion. I said straight up in front of them ADHD and NPD. Bipolar tendencies. At that point my friend started talking about some other patient there teaching him how to play piano, and I said see ? That's the ADHD.

The point I'm making, this is how deep I recognize what I'm seeing here. I said I have 2 of those fuckers in my circle, for real. cx3 already is the one above. Not that he's acting like a dick about it, his friend's mechanisms will have no choice but to respect him in ways he doesn't respect himself. The friend is prone to extreme defensiveness. He's fragile. cx3 is the stable one. The peace of mind. The listener will become the advisor. 2 friends will recognize one anothers traits, just as cx3 sees him, he also sees cx3. By no means is the friend retarded. I'd like to end this post by saying, bisexual ad hominem homosexual.

I think the main issue is that you're treating your experiences with people you consider narcissistic, without establishing that they are actually narcissistic, as a predictable developmental process for CX3's friend. There are several possible explanations for why he treats CX3 differently, but "therefore CX3 will inevitably become greater in his hierarchy, he'll adopt CX3's traits, and he'll eventually develop a CX3-specific mask" doesn't follow.

Tolerating someone doesn't establish superiority, and being the one person someone doesn't belittle doesn't establish a hierarchy. He could simply trust CX3 more, feel safer around him, or be more attached to him. The hierarchy also becomes circular: CX3 is supposedly "the one above," then his friend's behavior is treated as evidence of that, and future imitation or competition would supposedly confirm it.

When you ask "Do you have any idea what that means?", I understand what you're suggesting. I just don't see why it needs to be interpreted so flatteringly. Extreme dependency, jealousy, fragile self-esteem, and relying on one person for emotional regulation can make a relationship intense without making it uniquely profound or special. You also seem to separate hierarchy and superiority from narcissism by describing them as something that will "naturally" emerge through appreciation. But even if a hierarchy emerges naturally, that doesn't make it inherently healthy, necessary, or desirable. If the proposed outcome is that CX3 becomes "greater" and his friend occupies a lower position, that's still an explicitly hierarchical and ego-oriented dynamic. Calling it appreciation rather than superiority doesn't change what you're describing.

I notice the same thing with "walking ahead" or "leaving people behind." Walking ahead doesn't inherently communicate rejection or superiority. You're assigning that meaning to an ordinary action and then reasoning from it. Likewise, if someone becomes distressed because their friend talks to other people or isn't constantly available, the answer isn't necessarily for the friend to accommodate that reaction. They may need to become more tolerant of separation.

The "mask" idea is also speculative. People naturally behave differently around different people, and genuine behavioral change doesn't require a hidden mask. If he becomes more considerate around CX3, I'd rather evaluate that change itself.

Finally, making CX3 the regulator or advisor seems more likely to reinforce dependency than resolve it. A friendship doesn't need someone to be above the other person. And I don't think your experiences with people you've labeled narcissistic establish the trajectory you're describing either. Those relationships were also shaped by your own behavior and expectations, particularly since you repeatedly frame relationships in terms of who is above, who is below, who follows, and who deserves respect. If you approach people through that kind of hierarchy, it's possible that some of the dynamics you're describing are partly responses to the dynamic you're creating rather than evidence of some universal narcissistic pattern.

Dragoonback said: 

Narctimus_Prime said:

 

I think the main issue is that you're treating your experiences with people you consider narcissistic, without establishing that they are actually narcissistic, as a predictable developmental process for CX3's friend. There are several possible explanations for why he treats CX3 differently, but "therefore CX3 will inevitably become greater in his hierarchy, he'll adopt CX3's traits, and he'll eventually develop a CX3-specific mask" doesn't follow.

List some other possible explanations then.

Tolerating someone doesn't establish superiority, and being the one person someone doesn't belittle doesn't establish a hierarchy.

Doesn't it really. 

He could simply trust CX3 more, feel safer around him, or be more attached to him. The hierarchy also becomes circular: CX3 is supposedly "the one above," then his friend's behavior is treated as evidence of that, and future imitation or competition would supposedly confirm it.

cx3 already identifies his friend's behavior to be lower frequency. Dismissiveness toward correction is by default beneath cx3's standards. 

When you ask "Do you have any idea what that means?", I understand what you're suggesting. I just don't see why it needs to be interpreted so flatteringly.

Because they are friends. Friend's love one another. They keep each other company. They are the inner circle. The contacts and connections, the ones we keep serve and protect. 

Extreme dependency, jealousy, fragile self-esteem, and relying on one person for emotional regulation can make a relationship intense without making it uniquely profound or special.

But it most certainly will make the relationship profound and special. 

You also seem to separate hierarchy and superiority from narcissism by describing them as something that will "naturally" emerge through appreciation. But even if a hierarchy emerges naturally, that doesn't make it inherently healthy, necessary, or desirable. If the proposed outcome is that CX3 becomes "greater" and his friend occupies a lower position, that's still an explicitly hierarchical and ego-oriented dynamic. Calling it appreciation rather than superiority doesn't change what you're describing.

It's an ego oriented dynamic to begin with. His friend is by default a narcissist, who is dismissive of when he's wrong about something. alongside other attributes mentioned.

A narcissist won't appreciate anyone more than themselves, until they actually do. Even when they do better to impress who they appreciate, they make it awkward, like fishing for recognition for handling something better, like letting little things go, but it's better nonetheless.

People tend to idolize what they appreciate. A pop star has millions of fans basically worshiping them, that is sheer appreciation. That happens on many scales. Not everyone has a million fans and a million haters, but some of us are really appreciated and considered important by people in our lives.   

I notice the same thing with "walking ahead" or "leaving people behind." Walking ahead doesn't inherently communicate rejection or superiority. You're assigning that meaning to an ordinary action and then reasoning from it.

Because of who he's dealing with. We're talking about NPD here. If cx3 so much as gives someone else attention, his friend starts acting up. Someone that sensitive and insecure will make a big deal out of such things as walking ahead and walk behind. 

If you have a scorpion or a lizard, or a Spider a snake, a dog or a cat. You have to give them ecosystems where they can function. In this case cx3 has a narcissist who has a fragile ego. That is someone who will get defensive and hostile very easily over the smallest gestures.

Likewise, if someone becomes distressed because their friend talks to other people or isn't constantly available, the answer isn't necessarily for the friend to accommodate that reaction. They may need to become more tolerant of separation.

That attribute is just another thing that needs to be fixed.. For now it's simply an indicator. 

The "mask" idea is also speculative. People naturally behave differently around different people, and genuine behavioral change doesn't require a hidden mask. If he becomes more considerate around CX3, I'd rather evaluate that change itself.

There's no known cure for a cluster b. It's all management. A narcissist will always wear masks no matter how much they improve. It's the way with them.

Finally, making CX3 the regulator or advisor seems more likely to reinforce dependency than resolve it. A friendship doesn't need someone to be above the other person. And I don't think your experiences with people you've labeled narcissistic establish the trajectory you're describing either. Those relationships were also shaped by your own behavior and expectations, particularly since you repeatedly frame relationships in terms of who is above, who is below, who follows, and who deserves respect. If you approach people through that kind of hierarchy, it's possible that some of the dynamics you're describing are partly responses to the dynamic you're creating rather than evidence of some universal narcissistic pattern.

 The friend will do all of that. It's not a matter of trying to be those things. That's what happens. A narcissist will never change unless they have someone they actually respect, and the people they respect are the ones they place as higher status.

cx3 already knows his friend is a cluster b type personality. My first guess is BPD and NPD. cx3 thinks his friend is HPD.

There are 4 cluster b mindsets and all 4 share traits with one another. While I do not suggest my feedback a final diagnosis, diagnosing that guy is really narrowed down with not much outside of the cluster b types.

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The way to heal and manage people regardless of their mental state, is to match them and walk them out. Not everyone will understand what I mean when I put it this way, while those who can will know what I mean.  

The problem is that you're asking for "possible explanations" while continuing to treat NPD as an established premise. The behaviors described don't establish NPD, BPD, HPD, or even a Cluster B disorder. Dismissiveness toward correction, jealousy, defensiveness, and dependency can occur for many reasons, so saying "because we're talking about NPD" doesn't resolve the uncertainty. It simply assumes the conclusion you're trying to establish.

As for other explanations, CX3's friend could simply trust him more, be unusually attached to him, feel less threatened by him, perceive him as nonjudgmental, or have developed a specific interpersonal pattern with him over the year and a half they've known each other. None of those require CX3 to occupy a higher status.

I also think you're conflating intensity with profundity. Friendship can involve genuine attachment, affection, and significant distress at separation without requiring a hierarchy. Likewise, appreciation doesn't inherently mean idolization or superiority. Someone can value another person without placing them above themselves.

Your "ecosystem" analogy is where I think the problem becomes especially obvious. A friend isn't an animal that needs an ecosystem designed around its sensitivities. If someone becomes hostile because their friend gives someone else attention or walks ahead of them, accommodating every trigger can reinforce the behavior rather than "manage" it. The person can also learn to tolerate those situations.

And "a narcissist will always wear masks" and "will never change unless they have someone they respect" are far stronger claims than the evidence supports. Even if someone had NPD, neither statement follows automatically. You're taking your experiences and presenting them as general psychological laws.

The language of "managing" people also seems revealing here. You repeatedly describe relationships in terms of managing someone's ego, giving them the right environment, keeping them regulated, positioning yourself relative to them, and eventually becoming someone they recognize as higher status. At some point that stops being an explanation of narcissism and starts looking like your own hierarchical model of relationships being projected onto the situation.

There's also a circularity here: you interpret the person through a hierarchy, then their reactions to that hierarchy become evidence that the hierarchy was there all along. CX3 is supposedly higher because his friend respects him, narcissists supposedly only respect people they see as higher, and therefore his respect proves CX3 is higher.

"Matching them and walking them out" might describe a strategy you've found useful, but that doesn't establish that it's the correct way to handle someone with a particular disorder. If the strategy requires CX3 to continually regulate another person's ego and preserve their preferred hierarchy, I'd question whether it's actually helping either person.