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Histrionic disorder and similarities between high functioning autists?


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Hello, I have a friend who has something PD-wise or neurodevelopmental going on with them but I really can't pinpoint exactly what it is. Reading up in the DSM I have narrowed it down to narcissistic leaning histrionic personality or high functioning autism (extroverted). Does anyone know some categoric differences between these two? On paper they seem very similar and have a lot of overlap. Very well could be something else. Some examples for context: 

1. They make blatant attempts to minimize mistakes or gaslight you into thinking they never made a mistake. (e.g. What? No, that's not what I said)

2. No apologies unless prompted for one.

3. Deflection of criticism to make you comfort them instead of owning up to a critique of character or communication style (e.g. in response to, say, "you never seem interested in what I am interested in while it is the opposite for me", excessive defense of how that cannot possibly be the case or excessive pleading follows instead of aiming to resolve the issue). "Why are you doing this to me", "Can we stop talking about this", yelling and insults in response to criticism.

4. Questions are only asked if the response can somehow trace back to something they can talk about.

5. Extremely negative/hostile emotional reaction and excitement when someone disagrees to a claim. One-upmanship.

6. Jealousy when speaking to other people. Anxious attachment style.

7. Obsessive interest and impressive detailed knowledge of etymology and history.

8. Does not like to take advice.

9. Despises to be alone.

10. Self harm.

11. Attention seeking behavior. Likes to be the center of attention (validation oriented). 

 

I'm open to ideas so I might be able to read more about whatever this is. I like the guy and don't mind jumping around a few hurdles to make things work without utilizing manipulative methods. There are a few that come to mind but I think are unfit because they will lead to more dependence and exacerbation of existing traits.

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last edit on 8/17/2026 6:31:12 PM
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"High-functioning autism" is an older informal label, so I'd be careful about treating it as a distinct category. Someone can be autistic while being highly verbal, socially active, intellectually sophisticated, and extroverted. Autism isn't necessarily being shy, socially isolated, or emotionally flat.

I also think some of these traits are being evaluated too normatively. I don't necessarily see rigidity or limited interests as deficits. I have autistic traits like that myself, and I think they can be useful because they let me concentrate my resources and limit my exploitability.

My views on samsara reinforce that. I don't generally see dependence on other people, mutual gratification, or constantly accommodating other people's desires as inherently desirable. Being less socially flexible can therefore be useful if it reduces attachment and dependence.

Of the traits listed, the one I'd actually criticize from my perspective is that he despises being alone. Comfort with solitude seems much more compatible with detachment and ultimately moksha than needing constant interpersonal contact.

I also don't necessarily see the lack of apologies as a negative. An apology doesn't undo what happened, so unless it is accompanied by an actual change in behavior, I see it as mostly performative. It can function more as a ritual of submission or reassurance, feeding into the other person's desire for acknowledgment, control, or emotional validation. If someone actually did something wrong, changing the behavior seems more meaningful than verbally performing remorse.

last edit on 8/17/2026 6:50:39 PM
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Borderline Personality Disorder.

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Borderline Personality Disorder.

There's also no evidence here about several things that would be important for a BPD formulation, such as a persistent pattern of unstable self-image/identity, chronic emptiness, marked impulsivity in other domains, recurrent suicidal behavior, or the characteristic pattern of rapidly shifting interpersonal evaluations.

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If that's a female you've fallen for, and you never knew her that long, you're going to be in for a ride.

Borderlines feel jealous to the point, if she sees you talking to another woman, it's like getting cucked, like they feel cheated on. To them that's the world they live in, to you and I it's okay, unless something happens like your girl has chemistry with a dude getting lots of one on one time in a corner. It's like that for a borderline with the mildest interactions.

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Borderline Personality Disorder.

There's also no evidence here about several things that would be important for a BPD formulation, such as a persistent pattern of unstable self-image/identity, chronic emptiness, marked impulsivity in other domains, recurrent suicidal behavior, or the characteristic pattern of rapidly shifting interpersonal evaluations.

 BPD

last edit on 8/17/2026 7:05:21 PM
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Look at you two discussing under the starlight.. so entrancingly beautiful. Bravo 

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You two hate each other so much that you've transformed into lovers.

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cx3 said: 

You two hate each other so much that you've transformed into lovers.

 Honestly. I'm his favorite person here. Who else would it be ? Nathan ? Emily ? Delora ? HA HA HA.

But really look into BPD. Also tell me the relationship. I recognize this as something that might bewilder you and you won't be the same.

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Borderline Personality Disorder.

There's also no evidence here about several things that would be important for a BPD formulation, such as a persistent pattern of unstable self-image/identity, chronic emptiness, marked impulsivity in other domains, recurrent suicidal behavior, or the characteristic pattern of rapidly shifting interpersonal evaluations.

 BPD

Are you calling me BPD? If so, that's pretty ironic considering my point was that you can't infer a personality disorder from a handful of behaviors. You'd have to actually establish the relevant criteria rather than just throwing "BPD" at whoever disagrees with you.

If that's a female you've fallen for, and you never knew her that long, you're going to be in for a ride.

Borderlines feel jealous to the point, if she sees you talking to another woman, it's like getting cucked, like they feel cheated on. To them that's the world they live in, to you and I it's okay, unless something happens like your girl has chemistry with a dude getting lots of one on one time in a corner. It's like that for a borderline with the mildest interactions.

That's an example of what I'm talking about. You're describing one possible manifestation of BPD, but that doesn't establish that the person in the OP has BPD. Jealousy and fear of losing someone's attention aren't specific to BPD. They can occur with anxious attachment, insecurity, narcissistic or histrionic traits, or simply as an individual personality trait.

You're also assuming the person experiences ordinary interactions as "being cucked," but the OP didn't actually say that. The only relevant information was that they get jealous when the other person talks to someone else. That's nowhere near enough to distinguish BPD from other possibilities.

If you're saying "this could be BPD," sure. If you're saying "this is evidence that it's BPD," then you'd need considerably more than that.

last edit on 8/17/2026 7:44:17 PM
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