If you electrocuted a person with high voltage they will burn to a crisp long after their dead.
What does that have to do with conversion attempt shocks?
As much as getting tased has to do with pleasure.
He was talking about his pleasure, not being burned to a crisp lol.
What does that have to do with conversion attempt shocks?
As much as getting tased has to do with pleasure.
He was talking about his pleasure, not being burned to a crisp lol.
That's the nature of being electrocuted/tased/zapped.
For Nathan's sake. It really wouldn't be a good idea to zap his penis while expecting any pleasure out of it.
There is no singular “nature” of being electrocuted, tased, or zapped where the result is automatically being “fried to a crisp.” Electrical injuries depend on things like current, duration, waveform, pathway through the body, and the equipment being used. You're lumping completely different electrical exposures together as though they're physiologically identical. That makes your comparison to the specific aversion procedure meaningless.
There is no singular “nature” of being electrocuted, tased, or zapped where the result is automatically being “fried to a crisp.” Electrical injuries depend on things like current, duration, waveform, pathway through the body, and the equipment being used. You're lumping completely different electrical exposures together as though they're physiologically identical. That makes your comparison to the specific aversion procedure meaningless.
If left on at high voltages, sure that will happen.
There's a thermal effect, and the more subtle effects from lower voltages are still present.
It's possible to kill someone with a taser too.
This bottom line, it's not pleasurable or even a good idea for Nate to invest in a taser for the sake of masturbating.
Nobody is arguing that Nate should use a Taser for masturbation, so that analogy is irrelevant. The point was that you described “electrocuted/tased/zapped” as though they have one inherent physiological nature, then jumped to thermal effects and being “fried to a crisp.” They don't. Different electrical exposures produce different effects depending on the current, voltage, duration, waveform, pathway, and device.
And saying that sufficiently severe electrical exposure can kill or cause thermal injury doesn't establish anything about the specific aversion procedure we were discussing. You're still substituting extreme electrical injury for the actual stimulus under discussion. The masturbation example doesn't establish anything about the therapy either.
And even your hypothetical about Turncoat doesn't imply he'd be “fried to a crisp.” Saying that a Taser can potentially cause serious injury or death is not the same as saying every exposure produces catastrophic thermal injury. You're repeatedly moving from “this electrical device can cause severe harm under some circumstances” to “this is inherently what happens when someone gets zapped,” which is simply not true. A specialized electrical-stimulation device for sexual use is not physiologically equivalent to a TASER, and neither is equivalent to prolonged high-energy electrical injury. You keep treating “electricity” as one uniform thing when the actual effects depend on the device and exposure conditions.
When I say you're dunce, is that an ad homien attack?
Yes. If you're calling me a "dunce" instead of addressing the argument, that's an ad hominem. The fact that you phrase it as a question doesn't magically make it an argument.
When I say you're dunce, is that an ad homien attack?
Yes. If you're calling me a "dunce" instead of addressing the argument, that's an ad hominem. The fact that you phrase it as a question doesn't magically make it an argument.
You think it's a good idea for Nate to use a GED machine on his penis for the sake of pleasure ?
You think it's a good idea for Nate to use a GED machine on his penis for the sake of pleasure ?
Or a basic electric toy.
lol Okay.
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Nathan. The GED machine has a range from 30-90 milliamps.
Gemini said:A 30 milliamp (mA) shock is highly painful and represents the point where humans completely lose muscular control. According to pain researchers, a 30 mA shock is twice the threshold of what is considered tolerable for an adult human.
Physiological Effects of 30 mA
- Severe Pain: It inflicts an intense, noxious burning sensation across the skin.
- Muscle Freezing: This current hits the "let-go" threshold. Muscles violently contract, meaning a person cannot physically pull away or let go of the electrical source.
- Physical Damage: Shocks at this level can cause tissue burns, bruising, and intense scarring
Comparison to Other Shocks
- 1 mA Faint tingling sensation.
- 5 mA Slight shock felt; disturbing but not painful.
- 6–30 mA Severe pain, violent muscle contractions, and loss of motor control.
- 50–150 mA Excruciating shock, respiratory arrest, and potential death.
The GED device doesn't just deliver 30 mA as a brief spark; it sustains this painful, muscle-locking current for a full two seconds, with advanced versions of the machine scaling up to an even more extreme 90 mA
1 mA is what you'd desire. Not this machine.
5 is pressing your luck and will probably make you go limp. Not this machine
6 to 30 is violent. 30 being the GED's minimal milliamp setting.
Two seconds of this at a time. The proper way to count 2 seconds is to start from 0.....1.....2
It burns and scars skin tissue. You won't want this on your penis especially on the most sensitive region.
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This thing is more powerful than a 50,000 volt axon taser weapon. says here the taser does 1.4 - 3.5 mA, though that seems soft, it will burst 19 times per second so your muscles will get hammered like using back and forth motion to remove something from a wedge, it'll get the job done.
FDA banned, but the GED is still used at one center in the world, and maybe not even they use it all that much.
