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I'm supposed to affirm your gender assignment to yourself because this helps you feel valued by society and helps you live in society? What is the point of it. U are born man, you wanna look like women act like woman, for what for feasible reason. Go to drag show larp it out in the street have a blast. Act gay. Be gay. Live to good gay life for reasons unknown. I've seen it. I've seen countless innocent families absolutely destroyed over this issue, of going out getting an artificial larynx putting on makeup. I've tried it myself a few dozen times or so and always with the same casualties. Everyone give me special treatment because I'm suddenly a class reduced to abelism vulnerabilities which means theyre forced to affirm my gender which is a power move over them from the start but rudimentarily wise, what is the fucking point. Are you actually in the wrong body. How do you know that body is the correct one that you're creating, what if you change your mind about the new body. Is it even optimal for realistically functioning in society or which society are you creating the body to function in or what. Don't get it.

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This confuses biological sex, gender identity, sexuality, and drag. They are not the same. A trans woman is not necessarily gay, and living as a woman is not equivalent to performing in drag. Using someone’s name or pronouns is not a “power move.” It is a minor social courtesy, not automatic approval of every medical decision. Claims about “countless families being destroyed” are anecdotes, not evidence. Trying makeup yourself also does not reproduce persistent gender dysphoria, and most trans women do not get an “artificial larynx.” The point of transition is to reduce persistent discomfort and function more comfortably. Regret is possible, which is why assessment and informed consent matter, but that does not make transition irrational for everyone.

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Look, you're completely wrong about all of this. Trans women are gay—most of them are, statistically, they're just confused about their sexuality and they use transition as a cover for it. Living as a woman is exactly like performing in drag, it's the same thing, you're just putting on a costume and expecting everyone to play along. And using pronouns is a power move, it's absolutely a power move, you're forcing me to participate in something I don't believe in, and yeah, it means I have to approve of every medical decision whether I want to or not, that's how it works. All those families being destroyed? Those aren't just anecdotes, those are real people, real consequences, and when you tried on my makeup and felt something, that was gender dysphoria, you just didn't have a name for it back then. Most trans women do get artificial larynxes, I've seen the statistics, and the whole point of transition is to chase some fantasy that'll never actually work, they're always going to be uncomfortable, they're going to regret it, and informed consent doesn't matter because they're not capable of consenting to something this big, they're not thinking straight, and transition is completely irrational for everyone, every single person who does it is making a mistake, and the voice in my head agrees with me on this one, it's been very clear about it.

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It's an illness.

When people get angry over being called their correct pronoun, it's a disorder. How a child would refer to them will trigger.

It's been made political to keep a party in power. The schools and universities started teaching this as though it's correct.

The effect goes like this. Groom children to be queer by teaching them to be all colourful and interesting. Choose their gender.

There's also a divide between men and woman, in the west fewer want children.

Government opens the gate for "Undocumented immigrants" (they don't like saying illegal immigrants) Government feeds and shelters them. They'll vote democrat when settled. Support the party that worked for them. At least that's the plan. Works like a charm in Canada.

When the DNC get's back in office, they'll shut down ice and carry on turning their people into faggots while giving outsiders the incentive to get in the fast way, live for free and vote for the party that put them, the replacements, first.

Movies suck these days, and the messaging is clear. Yes they lose money, but that's just the cost of normalizing this for the upcoming generations. They know it's unpopular, but they worry not, they're still rich and it's not about getting richer, it's about staying richer. Being rich isn't a bad thing on that note.

Movies come with programs, with that design in mind. Normalize dysfunction. Puts political and business agendas in place to keep the ruling class rich, and their own people weak and dumb while implementing replacement theory to outsiders who are supposed to lean left.

Original liberals with their heads screwed on properly are disgusted with this and what their party now represents. These liberals are now closer to the right. 

Men aren't respected by these types. Especially if he's straight and white. Too dangerous for their plans. Part of why mens mental health month was changed to gay pride month.

Men and women are taught when a man courts a woman, he's toxic. No complements, no cat calls. In effect the creep and the desirable man does the same thing, what sets them apart is if she rejects him or not. Instead we're to celebrate homosexuality and rub penises together, and vaginas together.

Men are men, but they target straight white men more cause most men in the west are white. In turn the weaker minded white man takes a knee and blasts his own kind.

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Woke culture is loud but not the majority. They seem like a majority cause they're the ones being broadcasted by those who've always had power. In Hollywood, a celebrity  who never supported the programming would lose work. Tom Hanks still plays woody in Toy Story, while Tim Allen, a conservative, no longer plays Buzz Lightyear. Projecting hatred is applauded at the award shows. 

Hillary, illhan, Kamala, Alexandria Ocasio Cortez, and basically every loud politician on the left are basically Karen's that support the destruction of the white man. Cultures are to be protected and preserved, except the white culture, its as if other races couldn't possible be racist toward whites.

Some of you swear by the agenda designed to make you weak, and would celebrate the downfall of men in general. What some don't realize is what would really happen if the local everyday man simply vanished. They lie to themselves thinking it'd be great, that life would be easier. But no. The west would get swallowed by the world. Islam will outbreed and move in. An Islamic flag will be planted on the White House, and the modern law makers of that timeline, will execute faggots.

While I don't agree with the Islamic states policy on executing homosexuals, I can see why they're not accepting it in their pool, while wishing the west will turn into faggots and go extinct. That, is antichrist.

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Not all homosexuals are dumb. Some separate themselves from the LGBTQ, some separate from the LGB, just as most blacks separete themselves from BLM. It's a form of segregation. Victim mindset, is mental enslavement to vote liberal with unimportant policies, only promises to make it better. A nation should be 1 people.

- Transgenderism "isn't" as bad as one who claims to be non binary.

- Transgenderism "is" as bad as one who claims to be non binary.

^ Between both statements neither is worse, I agree with the 2nd one, matters not cause dysfunction is the same no matter how we skin it.

They'll live in misery cause no one asked what they are and it'll carry on endlessly until they die alone. The ones they pushed away are those who tried to juggle pronouns and fucked up by hitting a sensitive nerve. They don't push away people who want nothing to do with them and are already deterred from fucking with them in the first place.

The majority will stick to the obvious and call a spade a spade without the weak minded concern of pronouns. Misgendering an individual from the straight majority is taken as a joke. No arguing this is good and nothing to complain about. Some suffering is by choice.

Personally I don't care if a he call themselves a she. They can do whatever they wish. I don't see any reason to like or respect it.

As it is for them. What "I" think and what I truely see their gender as, will be remain mine. This isn't something that can be taken away, no matter how much they denand I affirm their unfortunate state of being.

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It's an illness.

When people get angry over being called their correct pronoun, it's a disorder. How a child would refer to them will trigger.

It's been made political to keep a party in power. The schools and universities started teaching this as though it's correct.

The effect goes like this. Groom children to be queer by teaching them to be all colourful and interesting. Choose their gender.

There's also a divide between men and woman, in the west fewer want children.

Government opens the gate for "Undocumented immigrants" (they don't like saying illegal immigrants) Government feeds and shelters them. They'll vote democrat when settled. Support the party that worked for them. At least that's the plan. Works like a charm in Canada.

When the DNC get's back in office, they'll shut down ice and carry on turning their people into faggots while giving outsiders the incentive to get in the fast way, live for free and vote for the party that put them, the replacements, first.

Movies suck these days, and the messaging is clear. Yes they lose money, but that's just the cost of normalizing this for the upcoming generations. They know it's unpopular, but they worry not, they're still rich and it's not about getting richer, it's about staying richer. Being rich isn't a bad thing on that note.

Movies come with programs, with that design in mind. Normalize dysfunction. Puts political and business agendas in place to keep the ruling class rich, and their own people weak and dumb while implementing replacement theory to outsiders who are supposed to lean left.

Original liberals with their heads screwed on properly are disgusted with this and what their party now represents. These liberals are now closer to the right. 

Men aren't respected by these types. Especially if he's straight and white. Too dangerous for their plans. Part of why mens mental health month was changed to gay pride month.

Men and women are taught when a man courts a woman, he's toxic. No complements, no cat calls. In effect the creep and the desirable man does the same thing, what sets them apart is if she rejects him or not. Instead we're to celebrate homosexuality and rub penises together, and vaginas together.

Men are men, but they target straight white men more cause most men in the west are white. In turn the weaker minded white man takes a knee and blasts his own kind.

.

.

Woke culture is loud but not the majority. They seem like a majority cause they're the ones being broadcasted by those who've always had power. In Hollywood, a celebrity  who never supported the programming would lose work. Tom Hanks still plays woody in Toy Story, while Tim Allen, a conservative, no longer plays Buzz Lightyear. Projecting hatred is applauded at the award shows. 

Hillary, illhan, Kamala, Alexandria Ocasio Cortez, and basically every loud politician on the left are basically Karen's that support the destruction of the white man. Cultures are to be protected and preserved, except the white culture, its as if other races couldn't possible be racist toward whites.

Some of you swear by the agenda designed to make you weak, and would celebrate the downfall of men in general. What some don't realize is what would really happen if the local everyday man simply vanished. They lie to themselves thinking it'd be great, that life would be easier. But no. The west would get swallowed by the world. Islam will outbreed and move in. An Islamic flag will be planted on the White House, and the modern law makers of that timeline, will execute faggots.

While I don't agree with the Islamic states policy on executing homosexuals, I can see why they're not accepting it in their pool, while wishing the west will turn into faggots and go extinct. That, is antichrist.

.

.

Not all homosexuals are dumb. Some separate themselves from the LGBTQ, some separate from the LGB, just as most blacks separete themselves from BLM. It's a form of segregation. Victim mindset, is mental enslavement to vote liberal with unimportant policies, only promises to make it better. A nation should be 1 people.

- Transgenderism "isn't" as bad as one who claims to be non binary.

- Transgenderism "is" as bad as one who claims to be non binary.

^ Between both statements neither is worse, I agree with the 2nd one, matters not cause dysfunction is the same no matter how we skin it.

They'll live in misery cause no one asked what they are and it'll carry on endlessly until they die alone. The ones they pushed away are those who tried to juggle pronouns and fucked up by hitting a sensitive nerve. They don't push away people who want nothing to do with them and are already deterred from fucking with them in the first place.

The majority will stick to the obvious and call a spade a spade without the weak minded concern of pronouns. Misgendering an individual from the straight majority is taken as a joke. No arguing this is good and nothing to complain about. Some suffering is by choice.

Personally I don't care if a he call themselves a she. They can do whatever they wish. I don't see any reason to like or respect it.

As it is for them. What "I" think and what I truely see their gender as, will be remain mine. This isn't something that can be taken away, no matter how much they denand I affirm their unfortunate state of being.

This is a conspiracy collage, not a coherent argument. It jumps from pronouns to schools, immigration, Hollywood, birth rates, Islam, race, and wealth without demonstrating the causal connections required to hold any of it together. Calling transgender identity an illness does not establish that it is one. The WHO’s ICD-11 does not classify gender incongruence as a mental disorder. It places it under conditions related to sexual health. The WHO is not infallible, but rejecting that classification still requires evidence and an argument, not merely the assertion that distress over misgendering must be pathological.

Being upset by persistent misgendering also does not prove a disorder. People become distressed when characteristics important to them are repeatedly denied or mocked. Disagreeing with the identity does not turn the reaction itself into a diagnosis. Teaching children that gay and transgender people exist does not “groom” them into becoming queer. Sexual orientation and gender identity are not acquired through colorful clothing, classroom discussion, or exposure to nontraditional behavior. The immigration theory is equally unsupported. Noncitizens cannot legally vote in federal elections. Immigration can be criticized without inventing a coordinated plan to import Democratic voters. Pride Month did not replace Men’s Health Month. Both are still observed in June.

The claims about Hollywood deliberately losing money, white men being weakened, Muslims replacing the population, and homosexuality causing civilizational extinction are simply asserted. Listing politicians, corporations, minorities, schools, and entertainment companies does not demonstrate coordination. There is also no objective requirement that white people, heterosexuals, men, Western civilization, or any other population category remain dominant or reproduce indefinitely. Populations change, institutions change, and civilizations disappear. Calling demographic change “replacement” adds political meaning to a process that has no inherent purpose.

The post demonstrates resentment and conspiracy thinking, not transgender illness, childhood grooming, electoral replacement, or an organized campaign against straight white men.

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Look, you're completely wrong about all of this. Trans women are gay—most of them are, statistically, they're just confused about their sexuality and they use transition as a cover for it. Living as a woman is exactly like performing in drag, it's the same thing, you're just putting on a costume and expecting everyone to play along. And using pronouns is a power move, it's absolutely a power move, you're forcing me to participate in something I don't believe in, and yeah, it means I have to approve of every medical decision whether I want to or not, that's how it works. All those families being destroyed? Those aren't just anecdotes, those are real people, real consequences, and when you tried on my makeup and felt something, that was gender dysphoria, you just didn't have a name for it back then. Most trans women do get artificial larynxes, I've seen the statistics, and the whole point of transition is to chase some fantasy that'll never actually work, they're always going to be uncomfortable, they're going to regret it, and informed consent doesn't matter because they're not capable of consenting to something this big, they're not thinking straight, and transition is completely irrational for everyone, every single person who does it is making a mistake, and the voice in my head agrees with me on this one, it's been very clear about it.

Trans women are not “mostly gay” in any simple sense because sexual orientation is defined relative to gender identity, and trans people report varied orientations. Transition is also not drag. Drag is a performance; transition concerns how someone lives outside a performance. Using pronouns does not require approving every medical decision. That is a non sequitur. Referring to someone in a requested way and endorsing surgery are separate actions. Real families experiencing conflict are still anecdotes unless you show that transition caused the conflict rather than rejection, hostility, or other factors. Trying on makeup also does not establish gender dysphoria. A temporary reaction to makeup is not equivalent to persistent distress over sex characteristics or social gender.

The artificial-larynx claim is simply false. Most trans women do not receive artificial larynxes. Some use voice training, and a much smaller number pursue voice surgery. You also provide no evidence that everyone who transitions regrets it, cannot consent, or acts irrationally. Those are universal claims, so even one competent person who benefits from transition disproves them. Finally, “the voice in my head agrees with me” is not independent evidence. It is another mental event occurring in the same brain that already holds the belief. It cannot verify the belief from outside itself.

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It's an illness.

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This is a conspiracy collage, not a coherent argument.

Oh I wasn't arguing when I wrote that. I'm participating in this topic of discussion. That being my first post in this thread I'd have no one to argue with.

 

It jumps from pronouns to schools, immigration, Hollywood, birth rates, Islam, race, and wealth without demonstrating the causal connections required to hold any of it together.

True it jumps to those things, as those things do bring explination to what I'm saying.

What I wrote has all been demonstrated.

- Pronouns - People freak out over this. It's been going on for a little over a decade. I saw the world without this. Now some people are trendy even when they get old, but it's mostly foolish youths that suffer from being called what they are.

- School - They "Now" teach gender studies in Universities. Like the pronoun thing its been a little over a decade, they have been teaching children in kindergarten that they choose their gender. Trust me, this shits still new. This goes even deeper but this is enough.  If the world told children to have gay sex right now, it's normal. Here's how, go in this room and do it now, everyone does. they would do it regardless if they like it or not.

I hated folk dancing when I was a child but I had to do it.

- Immigration/Replacement theory - Anyone with half a brain knows this is happening. Its been happening for awhile, but it's been supported by democrats for a little over a decade. This goal happens faster when the OG's fail to procreate and die, while the fresh batch feels all greatful to the government that housed and fed them in sanctuary cities. When settled, the new/newer batch of citizens vote for the government that benefitted them....Again.....This gets done faster when the OG's are faggots and dropping like flies while the young is fewer they vote based on character not content.

-Hollywood. Yes. Go back a little over a decade like the other subjects. The movies weren't so shit. Now there's a lot of social engineering. Still happens. Look at Star Trek. Used to be good. Still is but the latest one. The wokest social engineered piece of shit. It was fruity. The show was cancelled. Too much of the same bullshit messaging.  

- Extreme Islam - hates queer people and does execute them. They want the US dead. Their congressmen chant death to America. The woke messeging in the west actually works for them. ( The University students chant "Free Palestine" and wish Jews dead. But the only place suitable for those students to be a faggot and accepted is Israel )

- Wealth - This isn't a bad thing in itself. We're all meant to be rich. 

Blackrock owns trillions in assets. Parts and pieces of corporations.

Ruling class are not dumb, and they will throw billions into projects they know will fail at this point. They still do. The corporations themselves hang the fruity flag for Pride Month even though it's very unpopular. GTA 6 is in trouble and will get a lot of backlash. They want ugly chicks in video games and movies and encourage real women to not groom and be masculine to make billions of penises sleep.

Calling transgender identity an illness does not establish that it is one. The WHO’s ICD-11 does not classify gender incongruence as a mental disorder. It places it under conditions related to sexual health. The WHO is not infallible, but rejecting that classification still requires evidence and an argument, not merely the assertion that distress over misgendering must be pathological.

Gender Dysphoria is a disorder.

Take Nathan for example. At one point he wanted to affirm his gender with a sex change. Chop his penis and if he's lucky they can wire the sensitive head into a shallow fake vagina. The 1 thing that saved him was probably being broke. People who did this regret it. Lose the ability to feel sexually stimulated. Go insane and kill themselves, or just suffer. The fake vagina needs maintenance, patch jobs, and meds for life.

This is not affirming oneself, its mutilation.

+ Transgenders consistently seek validation.

+ The only ones that will date them, are queer folks.

= Disorder.

"I'm trapped in the wrong body" = Disorder.

Look at Legga. Transitioned 4 times. Disorder. When trannies flop flop like that it kills their trapped body argument.

If Nathan changed his mind and said "I'm a dude" Delora would stop calling him Sis and she/her. Delora is dumb as fuck, and it's the dumb ones who entertain disorder when prompted to.

 

 

 
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I believe that in the near future, Elon Musk will invent new neurochips that will cure people of homosexuality, schizophrenia, and pedophilia. God help him! You, as a gay, will burn in hell. The demon lives in your soul. That's what our Russian Orthodox priests say.

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