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Jada said: 
If they love Totoro, buy them Totoro stuff.

Honestly I never understood buying people gifts they "like" as opposed to prioritising what is good for them. If they, for example, dont like onions, it may not be what they like, but is it "good" for them or not?

When it's Halloween, would you give the kids who come to the door trick or treating candy or toothbrushes? 

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I would give them candy. Trick or treat is part of the collective social experience of our society. It teaches social skills and lifts the mood.

A trick or treat is significantly more useful for them as an experience than an extra toothbrush.

A better example would be my wife wanting jewelry. Jewelry is pointless, so I plan a joint trip for us to Japan or somewehere else instead. Its significantly more useful. People who travel are almost immune to joblessness. 

Or my friend has a broken phone, so I buy her a phone. Or a tooth replacement. I dont know why Id buy them stuff like dresses. Totally pointless, they'll forget it in 5 seconds.

Always buy them things they "need" and not what they "want".

last edit on 6/20/2026 12:28:11 PM
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It can be as presumptuous and harm of trust to give what *you* think is good for them.  Is that your place?  Is a gift going to do more than having a talk with them would?  Sometimes a gift of what they want *is* what's good for them.

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Jada said: 

I would give them candy. Trick or treat is part of the collective social experience of our society. It teaches social skills and lifts the mood.

A trick or treat is significantly more useful for them as an experience than an extra toothbrush.

A better example would b-

No no this one is in itself still self demonstrative; Rather than giving them what's good for them, you're giving them something they want over the social expectation. 

A better example would be my wife wanting jewelry. Jewelry is pointless, so I plan a joint trip for us to Japan or somewehere else instead. Its significantly more useful. People who travel are almost immune to joblessness. 

Traveling is expensive though, especially to Japan, and this sounds like when people buy a gift as a way for someone to selfishly give it to themselves. Does she even like traveling, or is this being insisted on her like a Halloween Toothbrush? 

Still an opportunity to buy Japanese Jewelry as a souvenir though; Best of both worlds. 

Or my friend has a broken phone, so I buy her a phone.

Which is an opportunity to get a quirky one that they'd love, like getting the earlier hypothetical person a Totoro Phone rather than a plain one. 

Or a tooth replacement. I dont know why Id buy them stuff like dresses. Totally pointless, they'll forget it in 5 seconds.

Every time they wear it they'll remember who got it for them, rendering it only pointless if there aren't positive associations with the gift. 

Always buy them things they "need" and not what they "want".

Gifts are an indulgence, and the occasional indulgence is what someone needs. 

It's possible to 'need' a 'want'. 

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It can be as presumptuous and harm of trust to give what *you* think is good for them.  Is that your place?  Is a gift going to do more than having a talk with them would?  Sometimes a gift of what they want *is* what's good for them.

Oh for sure, some know what is good for them.

What I think is good for them is going to harm them? Since when did people become so entitled that they get to complain about _gifts_

If you dont like it, Im not getting you anything. What a princess.

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Jada said: 

No no this one is in itself still self demonstrative; Rather than giving them what's good for them, you're giving them something they want over the social expectation. 

Im giving them whats good for them, so its not that "Im rather not giving them whats good for them."

 

A better example would be my wife wanting jewelry. Jewelry is pointless, so I plan a joint trip for us to Japan or somewehere else instead. Its significantly more useful. People who travel are almost immune to joblessness. 

Traveling is expensive though, especially to Japan, and this sounds like when people buy a gift as a way for someone to selfishly give it to themselves. Does she even like traveling, or is this being insisted on her like a Halloween Toothbrush? 

Still an opportunity to buy Japanese Jewelry as a souvenir though; Best of both worlds. 

We both hate traveling but it's good for our characters so I do it.

 

Or my friend has a broken phone, so I buy her a phone.

Which is an opportunity to get a quirky one that they'd love, like getting the earlier hypothetical person a Totoro Phone rather than a plain one. 

I see no need for a Totoro Phone. Why does she need a Totoro phone? Give me a reason.

 

Or a tooth replacement. I dont know why Id buy them stuff like dresses. Totally pointless, they'll forget it in 5 seconds.

Every time they wear it they'll remember who got it for them, rendering it only pointless if there aren't positive associations with the gift. 

Until they get a new dress. They wont get rid of the tooth so easily, they'll think of me whenever they eat, i.e., when they are reminded of the tooth job.

On a more serious note, that's not the point. The point is more that dresses play into people's desires in a way that is counter productive for their character growth. Its very materialistic. Its not going to help them.

You have use for a few things, emotional attachment/religious things, functional things (e.g. computer or a wallet), and basic necessities (nutritious food). The rest is materialistic garbage.

Also, you should prioritize low cost and long life in any purchase over prestige/brand name.

 

Always buy them things they "need" and not what they "want".

Gifts are an indulgence, and the occasional indulgence is what someone needs. 

It's possible to 'need' a 'want'. 

Yes if its one of those 3 things I listed. Otherwise no.

Since when was indulgence a "need"?

last edit on 6/20/2026 2:50:11 PM
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Jada said: 

It can be as presumptuous and harm of trust to give what *you* think is good for them.  Is that your place?  Is a gift going to do more than having a talk with them would?  Sometimes a gift of what they want *is* what's good for them.

Oh for sure, some know what is good for them.

What I think is good for them is going to harm them? Since when did people become so entitled that they get to complain about _gifts_

If you dont like it, Im not getting you anything. What a princess.

My birthday is coming up though! ;_;

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Jada said: 

It can be as presumptuous and harm of trust to give what *you* think is good for them.  Is that your place?  Is a gift going to do more than having a talk with them would?  Sometimes a gift of what they want *is* what's good for them.

Oh for sure, some know what is good for them.

What I think is good for them is going to harm them? Since when did people become so entitled that they get to complain about _gifts_

If you dont like it, Im not getting you anything. What a princess.

My birthday is coming up though! ;_;

Honestly if this is your attitude the best gift I could give you is some dirty sticks, to symbolize the lesson of learning to appreciate people's gifts to you.

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There are such things as gifts that mashes hand made though that kind of stuff is either impossible to obtain, or stupid expensive not fun to by.

For example in my case, if someone gifted me a fully loaded Nvidia DGX station 784gb, which is a professional at home, don't fuck with me, 1 trillion parameter, I'm good for life Ai supercomputer that can machine learn and handle local Ai real good ( $97,000, USD before tax ).... Well.... I think I'd cry tears of joy. The one with the RTX 6000. Yeah that one. I'd pay insurance and open an office... No. Office at home, with me. 

If my date did this, I'll propose on the spot. She can say she wants me to dominate her with rough sex no problem my queen, but under the surface I'm the dominated one. That will be an all expenses paid life with me while I work to give her what I think she deserves.

 keep dreaming special

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Jada said: 

I would give them candy. Trick or treat is part of the collective social experience of our society. It teaches social skills and lifts the mood.

A trick or treat is significantly more useful for them as an experience than an extra toothbrush.

A better example would b-

No no this one is in itself still self demonstrative; Rather than giving them what's good for them, you're giving them something they want over the social expectation. 

A better example would be my wife wanting jewelry. Jewelry is pointless, so I plan a joint trip for us to Japan or somewehere else instead. Its significantly more useful. People who travel are almost immune to joblessness. 

Traveling is expensive though, especially to Japan, and this sounds like when people buy a gift as a way for someone to selfishly give it to themselves. Does she even like traveling, or is this being insisted on her like a Halloween Toothbrush? 

Still an opportunity to buy Japanese Jewelry as a souvenir though; Best of both worlds. 

Or my friend has a broken phone, so I buy her a phone.

Which is an opportunity to get a quirky one that they'd love, like getting the earlier hypothetical person a Totoro Phone rather than a plain one. 

Or a tooth replacement. I dont know why Id buy them stuff like dresses. Totally pointless, they'll forget it in 5 seconds.

Every time they wear it they'll remember who got it for them, rendering it only pointless if there aren't positive associations with the gift. 

Always buy them things they "need" and not what they "want".

Gifts are an indulgence, and the occasional indulgence is what someone needs. 

It's possible to 'need' a 'want'. 

 Isnt it illegal for you to give or receive gifts? Becuase that would be considered income under SSI purposes?

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