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It was a rage bait post guys

Why discourage their discourse though? 

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Jada said: 
Spatial said:
Trump never crushed Canada. Yes or no Legga.

Perhaps not. I admit it was hyperbolae.

I would say that he is harming Canada's economy through tariffs, which, if time permits and no reasonable agreement is reached, will seriously harm Canada. And the US has the upper hand insofar as the problem is isolated to US and Canada, but what the outcome is depends much on what cards other players play.

Canada has been doing it to the US for decades. 

Canada has what is called "Supply Management" for US dairy. This means Canada will only take in a limited supply from the US. Supply Management is in place so Canadian dairy can sell more in the grand scheme in a less competitive market. 

Canadian farmers have no problem selling to the US, but the US farmers have big issues when it comes to selling to Canada because of the supply management barrier. Basically a really expensive tariff. New Zealand is also bothered by Canada's supply management policy when it comes to not just dairy, but certain imports. 

While the Canadian government will tax imported goods just the same, it matter less which one is sold, so this supply management policy bares the mark of a Canadian oligarchy, where a Canadian corporate interest is being guarded by government. 

The context in which I said that was to point out the absurdity of rooting for the person who is trying to harm your own country, so the hyperbolae was added for comic effect.

Well. America is done getting played. I'm see the US national debt at 36 trillion and change. It seems to be ticking upward $3,000 every second. 

 

You're worried about me not filling in your blanks when you were dismissive of my questions and data.

Technically I answered your questions and I'll show you in the following post.

Is this your stance: ""Trump is not acting to further America's interests at the economic cost of other countries"? Yes or no Spatial.

Yes, but also no. The US will get into a trade war with any nation who doesn't improve the trade relations.

Like damn Legga. Say you found out you were getting jipped by someone you purchase goods from. Will you make it right or fucking keep letting them rip you off ?

Trump does have his interests, and the tariffs OBVIOUSLY are not designed to destroy other economies. Look how much cheaper they are. 

IF however an economy wants to play hardball, that too is an option. On the bright side 50 of the 51 listed nations are interested in negotiating fair trade, and why ? The US most likely won't be incentivised to be so nice the next time the unpredictable Trump thinks it's time to, "increase" all fairness. 

It's called.....

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Art of the Deal is when business associates take you very seriously, and the nations of the globe are taking the US very seriously right now. 

 

Even if everything you said about the tariffs were true, I don't see how you're connecting the dots with that statement. Connect the dots for me.

- Tariffs were announced for release on April 2nd.

- The world was expecting trump to impose tariffs at a much higher percentage that would disable trade with the US

- US Tariffs came out soft, alongside Trump's speech ( I watched it live and even I was in shock )

- Canada and Mexico were not listed

- 50 of the 51 nations are up to change up the numbers. Being higher already we can expect lower prices.

- I think Trump halted tariffs on Canada and Mexico twice. And it's still halted until further notice. 

- Trump sees Canada's stance and how Canada even entertained the idea of pulling the plug on energy, which wouldn't be like.... an emp bomb going off in 7 states. Very ugly stuff. 

- Trump does fear the Canadian conservatives and would rather deal with Canadian Liberals. Ontario is Progressive Conservative while Alberta is Conservative. Both provinces are energy power houses.

 

Fair trade. This means other nations can have cheaper US goods, as the tariffs imposed by their government won't spill onto their own people. Look at the list and you'll see how much more other nations pay for US goods and it's the fault of their own leaders and not the US.

The US is technically liberating the world of high cost, granted their get fair trade. No one wants higher tariffs. 

 

freakin iPhones and Teslas and whatever else the US produces. NIKE and shit. AMD, Intel, Nvidia ASUS Mac. All computers and computer parts, going down in price for citizens of other nations. In China Buick is actually a luxury car I kid you not. And why ? Cause it always costed 67% more to buy over there, while some countries don't even have American cars.  

Canadians will end up with more choice, and the Canadian government will bank on tax all the same. That is, if we negotiate and let the US in on fair trade. China for example decided to flex on the US and they are paying the price for it. All they had to do was lower their tariff and they would still be afloat instead of the mess they're in now. 

This stuff all played out in real time before our eyes. 

This video is meant to be time stamped at 1:17.

 

If the DNC decided to do this decades ago. There would be no outrage. Today the very same people are having a meltdown over it getting done. 

The MSM is Trump's enemy, even in Canada the MSM is liberal, and they receive handouts by the liberal government. Mark Carney offered something like 1.6 billion to the MSM in Canada, and while MOST Canadians by a landslide dislike Trudeau, the Trudeau government, and Mark Carney, the MSM in Canada only go after the liberal governments political opponents.

The MSM will broadcast only what they want you to see, but not what the majority is saying. And we know what the majority is saying through alternative media and personal experiences with friends and family. 

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Trump thinks he has a deal with Russia, we'll see.

 

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Russia is going to betray that clown. Anyways, he is destroying the US economy to turn the US into more of a despotic racist shithole like Russia is. Right now Conservatives understand the the US infrastructure is still too wide and diverse to have the type of absolute control that they want so they are doing whatever they can to shrink and weaken US infrastructure.

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Russia is going to betray that clown. Anyways, he is destroying the US economy to turn the US into more of a despotic racist shithole like Russia is. Right now Conservatives understand the the US infrastructure is still too wide and diverse to have the type of absolute control that they want so they are doing whatever they can to shrink and weaken US infrastructure.

 Yeah. Pumpkinhead is Pooptin's puppet.

 

Peter Pecker lost his seat 😁

And Mark Carney will stay PM until Cheetolini is gone.

I love Americans and I don't want to wish harm on them, but this ass kissing on racist dictators has to stop. Things are going to get bad by the end of summer under this regime. I hope it won't turn into the famine some are predicting. But I do hope it's painful enough for them that they'll go and educate themselves about how their government and social programs work, so they won't end up voting for this again.

Hopefully Mr Carney will give us the no contact divorce from the US that I want. 😋

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Xadem said: 

I know that some of our members here are strongly pro-trump, and now I'm curious about their reaction. Seeing their stocks plummeting, not even they can ignore the damage now. Maybe they didn't care about minorities or other people, but if it hurts their own wallet it's gotta do something to them, right? Sometimes it feels like the stock market is the only thing US conservatives care about, making it a good opportunity for reflection. 

It's becoming harder to deny the catastrophic effects the Trump administration has not only on Americans, but on the entire world. After ignoring how people are being sent to slave labour camps, judicial due processes being ignored, imperialist territorial claims being made and journalists censored...

That all wasn't enough to break the narrative. Is it now? Or will trumpists double down and pretend there is a masterplan for us all, instead of just for those few at the top? 

 I love the chaos. I am honestly super happy that Trump is just turning the system on it's head. His goal is to eliminate all income tax for people earning under 200k a year.

Imagine having a president who cares about you so much that he's literally telling the rest of the world to F themselves and putting America first. This is glorious.

My biggest fear is that Trump backs down, or lets off. I want him to continue to revolutionize and rebuild every part of this country until everyone is doing so well that leftism dies in 2028.

He's making big moves. It's a huge contrast to the status quo previous presidents have been maintaining since WW2. 

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 I love the chaos. I am honestly super happy that Trump is just turning the system on it's head. His goal is to eliminate all income tax for people earning under 200k a year.

Imagine having a president who cares about you so much that he's literally telling the rest of the world to F themselves and putting America first. This is glorious.

My biggest fear is that Trump backs down, or lets off. I want him to continue to revolutionize and rebuild every part of this country until everyone is doing so well that leftism dies in 2028.

He's making big moves. It's a huge contrast to the status quo previous presidents have been maintaining since WW2. 

 The brainrot is honestly sad. There is no such thing as chaos btw. Or, now that I think about it, it's probably not brainrot, just true colors revealed.

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Xadem said: 

I know that some of our members here are strongly pro-trump, and now I'm curious about their reaction. Seeing their stocks plummeting, not even they can ignore the damage now. Maybe they didn't care about minorities or other people, but if it hurts their own wallet it's gotta do something to them, right? Sometimes it feels like the stock market is the only thing US conservatives care about, making it a good opportunity for reflection. 

It's becoming harder to deny the catastrophic effects the Trump administration has not only on Americans, but on the entire world. After ignoring how people are being sent to slave labour camps, judicial due processes being ignored, imperialist territorial claims being made and journalists censored...

That all wasn't enough to break the narrative. Is it now? Or will trumpists double down and pretend there is a masterplan for us all, instead of just for those few at the top? 

 I love the chaos. I am honestly super happy that Trump is just turning the system on it's head. His goal is to eliminate all income tax for people earning under 200k a year.

Imagine having a president who cares about you so much that he's literally telling the rest of the world to F themselves and putting America first. This is glorious.

My biggest fear is that Trump backs down, or lets off. I want him to continue to revolutionize and rebuild every part of this country until everyone is doing so well that leftism dies in 2028.

He's making big moves. It's a huge contrast to the status quo previous presidents have been maintaining since WW2. 

 You love watching millions of people suffering?

Have you ever considered going to Donbas as a journalist/vlogger?

 

Pumpkinhead doesn't give any actual fucks about anybody but himself.

He's intentionally tanking the stock markets so he and his billionaire buddies can buy the dip and make billions more. The grift extends to every corner of politics, now. ICE are looting the homes and businesses of people they haul away. Every government department that the DOGE bags shut down gets gutted financially, with most of the profits going to Pumpkinhead and some kind of a finder's fee going to the rest. Private security guards are even robbing tourists at airports ffs. 0rc mania has saturated the US government, so don't even try to tell me Pumpkinhead and Pooptin are not besties.

 

You want every part of leftism to die? Like the part where people rescue abandoned pets and abused children? Or the part where the police stop you for a suspected criminal act, and you're entitled to a duty counsel (state funded) attorney, until you can find your own lawyer to prove your innocence? Or the part where we have food standards to keep everybody from getting sick? Oh wait... That one is already gone  😋

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Zena said: 
Xadem said: 

I know that some of our members here are strongly pro-trump, and now I'm curious about their reaction. Seeing their stocks plummeting, not even they can ignore the damage now. Maybe they didn't care about minorities or other people, but if it hurts their own wallet it's gotta do something to them, right? Sometimes it feels like the stock market is the only thing US conservatives care about, making it a good opportunity for reflection. 

It's becoming harder to deny the catastrophic effects the Trump administration has not only on Americans, but on the entire world. After ignoring how people are being sent to slave labour camps, judicial due processes being ignored, imperialist territorial claims being made and journalists censored...

That all wasn't enough to break the narrative. Is it now? Or will trumpists double down and pretend there is a masterplan for us all, instead of just for those few at the top? 

 I love the chaos. I am honestly super happy that Trump is just turning the system on it's head. His goal is to eliminate all income tax for people earning under 200k a year.

Imagine having a president who cares about you so much that he's literally telling the rest of the world to F themselves and putting America first. This is glorious.

My biggest fear is that Trump backs down, or lets off. I want him to continue to revolutionize and rebuild every part of this country until everyone is doing so well that leftism dies in 2028.

He's making big moves. It's a huge contrast to the status quo previous presidents have been maintaining since WW2. 

 You love watching millions of people suffering?

Have you ever considered going to Donbas as a journalist/vlogger?

 

Pumpkinhead doesn't give any actual fucks about anybody but himself.

He's intentionally tanking the stock markets so he and his billionaire buddies can buy the dip and make billions more. The grift extends to every corner of politics, now. ICE are looting the homes and businesses of people they haul away. Every government department that the DOGE bags shut down gets gutted financially, with most of the profits going to Pumpkinhead and some kind of a finder's fee going to the rest. Private security guards are even robbing tourists at airports ffs. 0rc mania has saturated the US government, so don't even try to tell me Pumpkinhead and Pooptin are not besties.

 

You want every part of leftism to die? Like the part where people rescue abandoned pets and abused children? Or the part where the police stop you for a suspected criminal act, and you're entitled to a duty counsel (state funded) attorney, until you can find your own lawyer to prove your innocence? Or the part where we have food standards to keep everybody from getting sick? Oh wait... That one is already gone  😋

 Old fart Biden supported the war in Ukraine and gave them a billion for weapons. Joyful Zelensky at this time ordered his Bandera dogs to grab men on the streets, beat them up and take them to the front as cannon fodder. Pumpkin-headed Trump doesn't care about anyone but his own ass, but he offers peace in Ukraine. Thousands of Ukrainians and mercenaries from Poland, Columbia and France will stop dying. Kim Jong-un sent 12 thousand North Korean soldiers to help the Russians liberate the Kursk region, but he can easily send 200 thousand soldiers. Putin can declare a general mobilization and get several million soldiers, then they will take Kyiv and all of Ukraine as a whole. What difference does it make to you whose puppet Trump is if he offers to end this madness? The Ukrainian counter-offensive last year ended in fiasco. The Ukrainians were given a kick in the pants in the Kursk region. They are too weak, despite the support of NATO countries. 

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