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Dragoonback said: 

South Korea goes full fascist, enabled by capitalism and then is pressured to back off by protests.

False. 

Martial law was imposed then retracted. 

Martial Law isn't capitalistic, it's more socialistic as it's rule is that government via military force.

Capitalism is economic growth by the people, where anyone has the opportunity to build their own business.

Socialism is government control of everything. Of course you're passionate about it cause you're not good for anything, though I imagine some a radical socialised nations would execute the useless fools. 

North Korea is a socialist system. A place where men can only have 1 of 6 or so hairstyles, athletes are punished for underperforming, place is poor, and many North Koreans despite not knowing what the hell is going on in the world, will jump at the first opportunity to get the hell out of there. 

The rest of what you wrote is hot air, but feel free to elaborate how capitalism caused Yoon Suk Yeol to impose martial law against his political opponents. 

South Korea is corporate, like an extreme version of USA.

Good said: 

South Korea is corporate, like an extreme version of USA.

 Corporate is capitalism, there's only a false distinction the bourgeoisie try to make.

Golden_Eagle said: 

Dragoonback said: 

South Korea goes full fascist, enabled by capitalism and then is pressured to back off by protests.

False. 

Martial law was imposed then retracted. 

Martial Law isn't capitalistic, it's more socialistic as it's rule is that government via military force.

Capitalism is economic growth by the people, where anyone has the opportunity to build their own business.

Socialism is government control of everything. Of course you're passionate about it cause you're not good for anything, though I imagine some a radical socialised nations would execute the useless fools. 

North Korea is a socialist system. A place where men can only have 1 of 6 or so hairstyles, athletes are punished for underperforming, place is poor, and many North Koreans despite not knowing what the hell is going on in the world, will jump at the first opportunity to get the hell out of there. 

The rest of what you wrote is hot air, but feel free to elaborate how capitalism caused Yoon Suk Yeol to impose martial law against his political opponents. 

The government pays the military from... the government printers. Because the government is capitalistic, so yes martial law, of a martial force, that is being payed government money, is capitalistic.

You never explain why South Korea's birth rate is so much worse than North Korea's. South Korea is much more involved in mainstream capitalism than North Korea that is isolated from mainstream capitalism.

Because yes... capitalism is exploitation (including exploiting businesses with rent hikes)... and the government is part of the exploitation as the government does in fact own the money.

Dragoonback said: 

Golden_Eagle said: 

Dragoonback said: 

South Korea goes full fascist, enabled by capitalism and then is pressured to back off by protests.

False. 

Martial law was imposed then retracted. 

Martial Law isn't capitalistic, it's more socialistic as it's rule is that government via military force.

Capitalism is economic growth by the people, where anyone has the opportunity to build their own business.

Socialism is government control of everything. Of course you're passionate about it cause you're not good for anything, though I imagine some a radical socialised nations would execute the useless fools. 

North Korea is a socialist system. A place where men can only have 1 of 6 or so hairstyles, athletes are punished for underperforming, place is poor, and many North Koreans despite not knowing what the hell is going on in the world, will jump at the first opportunity to get the hell out of there. 

The rest of what you wrote is hot air, but feel free to elaborate how capitalism caused Yoon Suk Yeol to impose martial law against his political opponents. 

The government pays the military from... the government printers. Because the government is capitalistic, so yes martial law, of a martial force, that is being payed government money, is capitalistic.

They had Martial Law for 6 hours, and for some reason you believe they printed money to make that happen.

South Korea has a military. Every South Korean man when he reaches of age must serve for at least 3 years of their life. They have a very big military ready to roll 24/7.

Printing money for such a thing is dunce, obviously your deluded make belief banter without evidence, especially when they already have it made, and their military isn't all that busy. 

You never explain why South Korea's birth rate is so much worse than North Korea's.

It's not my fucking job to explain that, nor is it on topic. 

South Korea is much more involved in mainstream capitalism than North Korea that is isolated from mainstream capitalism.

You're suggesting North Korea is a better place to live than South Korea. That's a losing battle, even in these parts I presume. 

Because yes... capitalism is exploitation... and the government is part of the exploitation as the government does in fact own the money.

 One can argue Socialism is exploitation. For example, why should anyone pay for your shit when you don't even contribute to society ?

Capitalism enables people to work and enrich themselves, while socialism keeps people pinned down. 

In a Republic we're free to make choices, sign up for whatever we want and work toward it. Sure we get taxed, but at least we have higher paying jobs that gives people incentives to work in those fields. Why would anyone want to go to school for the better part of a decade to become a doctor, only to get paid the same as the pizza delivery boy ?

The reason why you're broke ass is able to save up to build your gaming PC, its because of economic prosperity. In North Korea, you're not going to save up and build something you can call yours. The modern technology over there is very aged and obsolete by our standards, and I'm pretty sure anything valuable is borrowed and state owned. 

Look at any nation under socialist rule, and you'll see people from there happy to have made it out. You don't recognize that cause you're a useful idiot. You don't understand why millions of people try to enter the United States. They, in many cases are coming from socialist shit holes. Places that would skin your ass alive in a day, having you begging their corrupt forces to deport you, while it's not even worth it for them and their weak dollar to move your ass off their street. 

Martial Law is a socialist in nature. It's government rule by force. Socialism demands government rule. It requests the government level the playing field, usually from the people at the bottom of the barrel. People who are lazy or hopeless wants the government to raise and take care of them, like a hivemind. The socialist wants the government to increase its influence on the masses, and distribute wealth in ways that end up keeping people locked down, not free to travel, simply because they won't be able to afford to. Of course the socialist will think life would be better, and for them that would be true, since they are the ones who are prone to swinging close to the rocks.

Martial Law, like socialism, doesn't empower the people. It cannot coexist with a Republic, nor will a democratic election be able to function under Martial Law.

When it comes to capitalism, one needn't take advantage of it though it will still create jobs.

Collectively, it's very important for people we don't even know, to work. A society where no one works, will have no electricity, no running water, and will fall into poverty, requiring charity from rich nations. 

As our civilizations ages, great structures stay in place. Structures that were built on properties by hand. Those men who built those things, and continue to build and keep the world turning, are heroic, and their retirement and death spells the loss of valuable people. The ones who riot and burn, cry fascist, blocking the roads, kick and scream and whine about the same shit every day. The world will be less annoyed when they pass away, and better off. 

I saw it more as a corporatocracy. 

Corporatocracy which is literally just capitalism.

Golden_Eagle said: 

 

It's not my fucking job to explain that, nor is it on topic. 

South Korea is much more involved in mainstream capitalism than North Korea that is isolated from mainstream capitalism.

You're suggesting North Korea is a better place to live than South Korea. That's a losing battle, even in these parts I presume. 

Because yes... capitalism is exploitation... and the government is part of the exploitation as the government does in fact own the money.

 One can argue Socialism is exploitation. For example, why should anyone pay for your shit when you don't even contribute to society ?

Capitalism enables people to work and enrich themselves, while socialism keeps people pinned down. 

In a Republic we're free to make choices, sign up for whatever we want and work toward it. Sure we get taxed, but at least we have higher paying jobs that gives people incentives to work in those fields. Why would anyone want to go to school for the better part of a decade to become a doctor, only to get paid the same as the pizza delivery boy ?

The reason why you're broke ass is able to save up to build your gaming PC, its because of economic prosperity. In North Korea, you're not going to save up and build something you can call yours. The modern technology over there is very aged and obsolete by our standards, and I'm pretty sure anything valuable is borrowed and state owned. 

Look at any nation under socialist rule, and you'll see people from there happy to have made it out. You don't recognize that cause you're a useful idiot. You don't understand why millions of people try to enter the United States. They, in many cases are coming from socialist shit holes. Places that would skin your ass alive in a day, having you begging their corrupt forces to deport you, while it's not even worth it for them and their weak dollar to move your ass off their street. 

 100% north koreans are better off than south koreans, doesn't mean it's "the best place to live" like one of the exploited places a western colonizer like you can can move to at their own novel whim. that must piss you off that north korea won't ever let your colonizer ass dick around there.

Choices are not even real because of determinism. Why would anyone want to become a doctor to be exploited by landlords or to be out-competed by government agencies that pay themselves? Maybe people would actually want an overall better society, and for an actually better reward than what capitalism only pretends to give.

By our standards? What standards? Energy is falling apart as people like you want coal and oil to go on forever. Nuclear could have already replaced electricity production if not for capitalism that is modeled around oil and destruction.

Also, once someone builds a railroad, what work is even left for them to do? There is no way to value that and if I built a rail it's for practical reasons, and capitalism is not a practical reason, it's just what coerces labor that eventually benefits the bourgeoisie and not the proletariat that builds for practical reasons.

Capitalism has to punish efficiency and reward destruction and exploitation.