omg remember the drama with tc, AND mirage, AND edvard, AND jason lmaoooo
no the server was so that i could be on a server cos kronos had banned me from the server. what part don't you get?
That is not what you said. Regardless, I do believe that what you claim here was the initial reason, but you made it into an obsession to show kronos whos boss.
ofc i don't care to help create the community, what the fuck do u think this is? what would i be getting out of it? also why do u keep using formal language like staff, ur not staff ur someone with a slightly different role on a server. this is why i say u demand respect for kronos. why the fuck would i ever help him with anything, who the fuck is he to me other than a 50yo lonely russian who beats his wife?
I say staff because there are management and administrative, even technical issues that are constantly addressed. Mod is not accurate.
What you get out of it is up to you. Not sure why you are even discussing this with me, this is irrelevant to the topic. If you get nothing out of it, then don't be a staff member in the first place? I can tell you what I get out of it: I enjoy it, it is fun, like a puzzle to solve and creates interesting situations that I get to observe.
If you do not want to help, then do not??? I do not remember how you became a mod or w/e, but if you wanted or accepted to be a mod, then you have to either accept the responsibilities(when you are serious) or the consequences of failing them(like when you are just trolling or w/e).
u tell me what i was supposed to do in ur mind that would be an appropriate response to being banned. should i have apologized and begged for forgiveness? should i have left discord and hung my head in shame? should i have killed myself?
Not being obsessed like your life depends on it. Like not being super paranoid I am in your server to kill it, just one example down the road of your madness. Killing yourself is a good option as well.
I can't remember the details anymore to give you very specific examples. But I remember your overdramatic reaction, how paranoid you got and how controlling you were. So worried about what Kronos might do. And so obsessed to win over him in an e-battle, obsessed to desperation. Pathetic.so because i came back into his server a few times to troll him that makes me obsessed? ur so protective over him it's gross. ur gonna try and make out i care too much and ur the one listing off the reasons being a mod makes u feel special and part of some kinda workforce lmao 'its fun and lak solving uzzles'
You may belittle the words, but that does not make them any less true lol, so I have nothing else to say.
You may feel special being a mod, but I never claimed I do.
A few times, in the span of months and to this day, still talking about him.
I am being protective of him because I point out what happened? Another example of your projection of what you believe I think. Another example of your self-entitlement.
i don't deny being a little crazy but ur acting like i owed u something more lmao like we were super tight. i never gave a fuck about being a mod on kronos server, this seems to bother u. ur like a nagging old bitch 'WELL U SHOULDNT BE A PART OF IT IF U DONT WANNA TAKE RESPONSIBILITY' wat. i come here to fuck around not to have a job u dickwad.
at this point ur not making any sense. can u admit part of this is about chet?
Yes, it really bothers me that you didn't care about being a mod, like those times I said that you want to be a mod is irrelevant to the conversation at hand. I see your point. You may belittle the words I said, but it does not make them any less true, I think I said that earlier hmm.
The Chet part is hilarious, I love that part.
Do you want to embarrass yourself any further? Because I know what I am talking about and I know I am right. And when you start coping, I will point it out. I can sense it coming now.
It didn't just seem like it was pro-pedo. It was pro-pedo. Because it had pro-pedo threats.
And I did know people were not pro-pedo, but they were pro the pro-pedo threats.That is not hypocritical, because if you ban him for doing the same, it is an expected outcome. And when you do it, it should be expected as well.
Anyone that DMs invites to another server gets banned, on any server, this is the standard.
He is not exempt from this rule.
You just have different rules, where no one gets banned for it. You fail to see it from the other person perspective.Like it was and like I had said, the easiest way to overcome that was simply to ban him instead of debating whether you should or shouldn't. I wasnt for a popularity contest but tc made it one so you could have gone that route instead of just dramatically shutting it down. And it wasn't pro-pedo, it was literally one retard, and people stopped participating because of that retard. So it seemed pro-pedo but wasnt but keep twisting it to fit that justification.
If the forum tolerates it, it is pro-pedo. Because... there is pro-pedo content on it??
Also explain who was "pro the pro pedo threats"?
TC and I didn't see anyone opposing him. Inq tried to make a compromise instead. And recently auberta wanted cawk back, which shows my intuition that people were not opposing TC, because they wanted to preserve SC values.
Just because he knew he was going to get banned doesn't mean hes not a hypocrite. That just makes him an even shittier person that contributes nothing to other server that others have worked hard one and attempts to take base away just so his server can grow.
And you just explained why he wants people banned from PD when they invite people.
Alright back to this
but he banned me and that was the only reason i made a server...kronos spends all his time going into other servers and posting DM invites, the same thing he bans ppl for. he also questions ppl about how they got invited and threaten to ban them if they don't leave other servers. he also tried to make me go OUTSIDE OF DISCORD and post on his fucking web forum, and dangled mod above my head like i give a fuck about it lmao. maybe u wanna be his 'good' obedient dog but i'm not interested. that does suggest he needs it more than i do though doesn't it?
I know everything that happens on the server, as I am a part of it. He DMs people invites and expects to get banned. You DM people invites and expect not to get banned.
Actions have consequences, something you learn in kindergarten. If you are going to DM invites, then you must be ready to face the consequences, like the staff of PD is.If you do not want to help create the PD community, then you have no place as part of the staff. It is as simple as that. Any other take is overdramatization. And yours is just that. I do whatever I want and I don't whine over the consequences of my actions.
He dms invites on servers that have specifically said not to dm invites to members. His own server has a rule stating that if anyone dms them(the members) an invite to report them immediately. When I banned him on my server for doing just that he bitched about how I only banned him because I didnt like him and that he was going to get me demoded for doing so. Hes an entitled manchild. He does not expect to be banned for dming invites and in the event that he is, he makes other mods invite from that server.
He does, he was just messing with you. And I do not trust your version of events on this matter.
Lol meta you can't have it both ways. If he does expect it then he shouldn't retaliate, if he doesn't expect to be banned for it then retaliation makes sense but hes still a hypocrite, if he does expect it and retaliates hes a hypocrite. Personal pettiness on the matter still makes you(him) a hypocrite.
And I have no reason to lie to you, what would that even do for me? Why would I lie when I know you can go fact check this with him and others around at the time?
At the time he modded sc users as a way to get them onto his server, he modded chet, you, tryp and sug. As far as I know chet was advertising, he told sug to advertise or he'd demod her. She refused and called him out on it and then she was banned. He also told tryp to put in more work, tryp either later left or was demoded. It fine to create a community but its different trying to coerce others into doing something they're uncomfortable with by threatening to take a position of power away. Its actually pretty toxic to do that. And that's if we take discord seriously.
Why not? Why would you get a position of power if you won't do the required effort to maintain it?
What part of "he modded sc users as a way to get them on his server" did you misunderstand. I mean this sincerely.
And again he banned sug for calling him out on it, and before that demoded her for her refusal to do so. His idea was to get the rest of sc in in his server via familiar moderators. He offered it to me too in hope that I would shut down my server and instead go to his and use the sc channel he created. Advertisement is not part of moderation, it's not the same thing. Why did he think that he could ask this of the mods? It's not like they're getting paid to do it.
Non seriously? Who the fuck tells someone that's there to more or less monitor the community for trolling and doxing to "put in more work"? Work as in: "Advertise my server or else!" Lol pay that shit my dude.
If you do not want to take it semi-seriously, then don't get yourself in the situation where you have to.
I never advertised and I wouldn't be a mod if I had to. It seems like you take this mod position too seriously, see I am fine with not being a mod when it requires me to do things I do not want to do, it makes sense. I really do not understand how you fail to see this.
Yet there have been other people that have been told to do this exact thing but because your experience wasnt the same as their you refuse to believe it. Again they didnt get themselves in a situation where they'd be advertising, only moderating and I feel like you dont understand the difference between the two.
It didn't just seem like it was pro-pedo. It was pro-pedo. Because it had pro-pedo threats.
And I did know people were not pro-pedo, but they were pro the pro-pedo threats.That is not hypocritical, because if you ban him for doing the same, it is an expected outcome. And when you do it, it should be expected as well.
Anyone that DMs invites to another server gets banned, on any server, this is the standard.
He is not exempt from this rule.
You just have different rules, where no one gets banned for it. You fail to see it from the other person perspective.Like it was and like I had said, the easiest way to overcome that was simply to ban him instead of debating whether you should or shouldn't. I wasnt for a popularity contest but tc made it one so you could have gone that route instead of just dramatically shutting it down. And it wasn't pro-pedo, it was literally one retard, and people stopped participating because of that retard. So it seemed pro-pedo but wasnt but keep twisting it to fit that justification.
If the forum tolerates it, it is pro-pedo. Because... there is pro-pedo content on it??
No one tolerated it...what exactly did you want the forum to do? The only ones with mod tools were you, inq and Turncoat so is it fair to say that you were pro-pedophilia?
Also explain who was "pro the pro pedo threats"?
TC and I didn't see anyone opposing him. Inq tried to make a compromise instead. And recently auberta wanted cawk back, which shows my intuition that people were not opposing TC, because they wanted to preserve SC values.
There were literal topics made about banning cawk by blanc, me and xadem at least. Missc I think also was in favor as was peach and spite. So like literally one person was in favor of keeping cawk here out of a bunch of other people that wanted him gone...you think that one person meant everyone else was "pro the pro-pedo threats"??
Really?
Just because he knew he was going to get banned doesn't mean hes not a hypocrite. That just makes him an even shittier person that contributes nothing to other server that others have worked hard one and attempts to take base away just so his server can grow.
Why should he contribute to the other server? Is he a... mod there, one that took it seriously?
And you just explained why he wants people banned from PD when they invite people.
How big is your basket for these cherries you're picking?
Alright back to this
but he banned me and that was the only reason i made a server...kronos spends all his time going into other servers and posting DM invites, the same thing he bans ppl for. he also questions ppl about how they got invited and threaten to ban them if they don't leave other servers. he also tried to make me go OUTSIDE OF DISCORD and post on his fucking web forum, and dangled mod above my head like i give a fuck about it lmao. maybe u wanna be his 'good' obedient dog but i'm not interested. that does suggest he needs it more than i do though doesn't it?
I know everything that happens on the server, as I am a part of it. He DMs people invites and expects to get banned. You DM people invites and expect not to get banned.
Actions have consequences, something you learn in kindergarten. If you are going to DM invites, then you must be ready to face the consequences, like the staff of PD is.If you do not want to help create the PD community, then you have no place as part of the staff. It is as simple as that. Any other take is overdramatization. And yours is just that. I do whatever I want and I don't whine over the consequences of my actions.
He dms invites on servers that have specifically said not to dm invites to members. His own server has a rule stating that if anyone dms them(the members) an invite to report them immediately. When I banned him on my server for doing just that he bitched about how I only banned him because I didnt like him and that he was going to get me demoded for doing so. Hes an entitled manchild. He does not expect to be banned for dming invites and in the event that he is, he makes other mods invite from that server.
He does, he was just messing with you. And I do not trust your version of events on this matter.
Lol meta you can't have it both ways. If he does expect it then he shouldn't retaliate, if he doesn't expect to be banned for it then retaliation makes sense but hes still a hypocrite, if he does expect it and retaliates hes a hypocrite. Personal pettiness on the matter still makes you(him) a hypocrite.
What I meant is, that he totally expected it... regardless of what he told you. Even if he said the opposite. In his mind, he knew what would happen. I know this because I've talked with Kronos, many times, imagine that.
And I have no reason to lie to you, what would that even do for me? Why would I lie when I know you can go fact check this with him and others around at the time?
I do not think you are lying, just not showing me all the parts of the situation. And I do not remember anymore what the details were, so I can't fill in the missing holes. If he was indeed surprised and truly believing that you banned him for something else then advertising and you never showed any signs of that being so, then he was the one in error. But I have observed and communicated with Kronos long enough and I do not see this being the case.
At the time he modded sc users as a way to get them onto his server, he modded chet, you, tryp and sug. As far as I know chet was advertising, he told sug to advertise or he'd demod her. She refused and called him out on it and then she was banned. He also told tryp to put in more work, tryp either later left or was demoded. It fine to create a community but its different trying to coerce others into doing something they're uncomfortable with by threatening to take a position of power away. Its actually pretty toxic to do that. And that's if we take discord seriously.
Why not? Why would you get a position of power if you won't do the required effort to maintain it?
What part of "he modded sc users as a way to get them on his server" did you misunderstand. I mean this sincerely.
And again he banned sug for calling him out on it, and before that demoded her for her refusal to do so. His idea was to get the rest of sc in in his server via familiar moderators. He offered it to me too in hope that I would shut down my server and instead go to his and use the sc channel he created. Advertisement is not part of moderation, it's not the same thing. Why did he think that he could ask this of the mods? It's not like they're getting paid to do it.
He may have modded me and others SC users for that, but this is not relevant to me... it is relevant to him. I care about what being modded means to me. If it means that I have to do something I do not want to do, then I will not be a mod. He can ask anything he wants from his mods or anyone really lol. If the mods were long-standing members that contributed and then he suddenly demods them because they won't do his bidding it would be different(and dependant on the situation). But when they are new members who have done nothing and do not want to do what he wants, why should he keep them? As for why they should do what he wants, that's up to them as well. He decides what to want from his mods and his mods decide what they are willing to do for the position.
Non seriously? Who the fuck tells someone that's there to more or less monitor the community for trolling and doxing to "put in more work"? Work as in: "Advertise my server or else!" Lol pay that shit my dude.
If you do not want to take it semi-seriously, then don't get yourself in the situation where you have to.
I never advertised and I wouldn't be a mod if I had to. It seems like you take this mod position too seriously, see I am fine with not being a mod when it requires me to do things I do not want to do, it makes sense. I really do not understand how you fail to see this.
Yet there have been other people that have been told to do this exact thing but because your experience wasnt the same as their you refuse to believe it. Again they didnt get themselves in a situation where they'd be advertising, only moderating and I feel like you dont understand the difference between the two.
If I was in their place, I simply wouldn't be a mod and that's it. This was my point. I won't care more about it or think it's unfair. I think it's unfair to demand to be a mod and not giving what they want in return.
It didn't just seem like it was pro-pedo. It was pro-pedo. Because it had pro-pedo threats.
And I did know people were not pro-pedo, but they were pro the pro-pedo threats.That is not hypocritical, because if you ban him for doing the same, it is an expected outcome. And when you do it, it should be expected as well.
Anyone that DMs invites to another server gets banned, on any server, this is the standard.
He is not exempt from this rule.
You just have different rules, where no one gets banned for it. You fail to see it from the other person perspective.Like it was and like I had said, the easiest way to overcome that was simply to ban him instead of debating whether you should or shouldn't. I wasnt for a popularity contest but tc made it one so you could have gone that route instead of just dramatically shutting it down. And it wasn't pro-pedo, it was literally one retard, and people stopped participating because of that retard. So it seemed pro-pedo but wasnt but keep twisting it to fit that justification.
If the forum tolerates it, it is pro-pedo. Because... there is pro-pedo content on it??
No one tolerated it...what exactly did you want the forum to do? The only ones with mod tools were you, inq and Turncoat so is it fair to say that you were pro-pedophilia?
Only blanc said something about it.
Also explain who was "pro the pro pedo threats"?
TC and I didn't see anyone opposing him. Inq tried to make a compromise instead. And recently auberta wanted cawk back, which shows my intuition that people were not opposing TC, because they wanted to preserve SC values.
There were literal topics made about banning cawk by blanc, me and xadem at least. Missc I think also was in favor as was peach and spite. So like literally one person was in favor of keeping cawk here out of a bunch of other people that wanted him gone...you think that one person meant everyone else was "pro the pro-pedo threats"??
Really?
Were those topics after blancs? Because I did not open the forum or PD discord for a week before I decided to shut down the site.
You may think that is a shame, but I can't wait forever. I had to take action.
Just because he knew he was going to get banned doesn't mean hes not a hypocrite. That just makes him an even shittier person that contributes nothing to other server that others have worked hard one and attempts to take base away just so his server can grow.
Why should he contribute to the other server? Is he a... mod there, one that took it seriously?
And you just explained why he wants people banned from PD when they invite people.How big is your basket for these cherries you're picking?
At this point, if I continue, I am in fact fighting for Kronos. But up to this point, I was explaining why I think he is not a hypocrite, but if you have something else of value to say, please do so.
It didn't just seem like it was pro-pedo. It was pro-pedo. Because it had pro-pedo threats.
And I did know people were not pro-pedo, but they were pro the pro-pedo threats.That is not hypocritical, because if you ban him for doing the same, it is an expected outcome. And when you do it, it should be expected as well.
Anyone that DMs invites to another server gets banned, on any server, this is the standard.
He is not exempt from this rule.
You just have different rules, where no one gets banned for it. You fail to see it from the other person perspective.Like it was and like I had said, the easiest way to overcome that was simply to ban him instead of debating whether you should or shouldn't. I wasnt for a popularity contest but tc made it one so you could have gone that route instead of just dramatically shutting it down. And it wasn't pro-pedo, it was literally one retard, and people stopped participating because of that retard. So it seemed pro-pedo but wasnt but keep twisting it to fit that justification.
If the forum tolerates it, it is pro-pedo. Because... there is pro-pedo content on it??
No one tolerated it...what exactly did you want the forum to do? The only ones with mod tools were you, inq and Turncoat so is it fair to say that you were pro-pedophilia?
Only blanc said something about it.
No...plenty of others had said things about it.
Also explain who was "pro the pro pedo threats"?
TC and I didn't see anyone opposing him. Inq tried to make a compromise instead. And recently auberta wanted cawk back, which shows my intuition that people were not opposing TC, because they wanted to preserve SC values.
There were literal topics made about banning cawk by blanc, me and xadem at least. Missc I think also was in favor as was peach and spite. So like literally one person was in favor of keeping cawk here out of a bunch of other people that wanted him gone...you think that one person meant everyone else was "pro the pro-pedo threats"??
Really?
Were those topics after blancs? Because I did not open the forum or PD discord for a week before I decided to shut down the site.
You may think that is a shame, but I can't wait forever. I had to take action.
But its totally fine to say the entire forum was pro-pedo instead? Without actual knowledge of the events occurring during that week? What of the thread with the list of people that wanted cawk banned? The thread that you were participating in, how are they also pro-pedo? Should they have spammed threads the way cawk did?
Just because he knew he was going to get banned doesn't mean hes not a hypocrite. That just makes him an even shittier person that contributes nothing to other server that others have worked hard one and attempts to take base away just so his server can grow.
Why should he contribute to the other server? Is he a... mod there, one that took it seriously?
And you just explained why he wants people banned from PD when they invite people.How big is your basket for these cherries you're picking?
At this point, if I continue, I am in fact fighting for Kronos. But up to this point, I was explaining why I think he is not a hypocrite, but if you have something else of value to say, please do so.
...you have been fighting for him. This entire time, when I tell you the experience of other with kronos has not been the same as yours instead of just accepting that others had different experiences you argued that they should have done as kronos wanted. Instead of saying hey maybe you guys just dont get along, or saying I wasnt involved in that particular argument you instead say: I dont trust you to tell me the whole story so kronos was probably just playing you lol.
You have been fighting for him, this entire time.
also i don't know that u are trustworthy..what was the reason u nuked SC recently? didnt u have a plan with jim to make a fake forum to get peoples login details? wasn't the only reason u didn't go through with that cos jim embarrassed chet? i may not be the sweetest but i just don't have the time or energy to be doing shit like that. meanwhile u have been manipulated by chet and supposedly kronos.
I turned the site off because it was filled with pedophilia filth
If we're being technical, it wasn't when you finally did it. It was being managed into Mega-Threads, yet you still flipped shit and did it anyway. I'm glad the website is back and everything, but you didn't even look around first to see what the current context was, you were already swept into an idea in lieu of the immediate reality that was a week out of date. This alone is why I find your sense of action threatening.
He was getting bored of being handled and just starting to give up, then you reignited the flame.
It didn't just seem like it was pro-pedo. It was pro-pedo. Because it had pro-pedo threats.
And I did know people were not pro-pedo, but they were pro the pro-pedo threats.That is not hypocritical, because if you ban him for doing the same, it is an expected outcome. And when you do it, it should be expected as well.
Anyone that DMs invites to another server gets banned, on any server, this is the standard.
He is not exempt from this rule.
You just have different rules, where no one gets banned for it. You fail to see it from the other person perspective.Like it was and like I had said, the easiest way to overcome that was simply to ban him instead of debating whether you should or shouldn't. I wasnt for a popularity contest but tc made it one so you could have gone that route instead of just dramatically shutting it down. And it wasn't pro-pedo, it was literally one retard, and people stopped participating because of that retard. So it seemed pro-pedo but wasnt but keep twisting it to fit that justification.
If the forum tolerates it, it is pro-pedo. Because... there is pro-pedo content on it??
No one tolerated it...what exactly did you want the forum to do? The only ones with mod tools were you, inq and Turncoat so is it fair to say that you were pro-pedophilia?
Only blanc said something about it.
No...plenty of others had said things about it.
No they had not.
Also explain who was "pro the pro pedo threats"?
TC and I didn't see anyone opposing him. Inq tried to make a compromise instead. And recently auberta wanted cawk back, which shows my intuition that people were not opposing TC, because they wanted to preserve SC values.
There were literal topics made about banning cawk by blanc, me and xadem at least. Missc I think also was in favor as was peach and spite. So like literally one person was in favor of keeping cawk here out of a bunch of other people that wanted him gone...you think that one person meant everyone else was "pro the pro-pedo threats"??
Really?
Were those topics after blancs? Because I did not open the forum or PD discord for a week before I decided to shut down the site.
You may think that is a shame, but I can't wait forever. I had to take action.But its totally fine to say the entire forum was pro-pedo instead? Without actual knowledge of the events occurring during that week? What of the thread with the list of people that wanted cawk banned? The thread that you were participating in, how are they also pro-pedo? Should they have spammed threads the way cawk did?
Yes it is. Anything happening during the week was after the fact. And I was told what was being posted.
That thread started good, but it did not end good.
No idea why it has to be pro-pedo or someone has to spam.
All that still did not remove the pro-pedo content, which made the site pro-pedo.
Just because he knew he was going to get banned doesn't mean hes not a hypocrite. That just makes him an even shittier person that contributes nothing to other server that others have worked hard one and attempts to take base away just so his server can grow.
Why should he contribute to the other server? Is he a... mod there, one that took it seriously?
And you just explained why he wants people banned from PD when they invite people.How big is your basket for these cherries you're picking?
At this point, if I continue, I am in fact fighting for Kronos. But up to this point, I was explaining why I think he is not a hypocrite, but if you have something else of value to say, please do so.
...you have been fighting for him. This entire time, when I tell you the experience of other with kronos has not been the same as yours instead of just accepting that others had different experiences you argued that they should have done as kronos wanted. Instead of saying hey maybe you guys just dont get along, or saying I wasnt involved in that particular argument you instead say: I dont trust you to tell me the whole story so kronos was probably just playing you lol.
You have been fighting for him, this entire time.
If explaining how responsibility and consequences work is fighting for him, then you are right.
I did accept that. Accepting that and arguing that are not in conflict.
You guys clearly do not get along, I'm confused why you thought I thought otherwise?
I can say I that I wasn't involved, but that's irrelevant, why would I say that? Clearly, you know I was not involved. You broth it up as an example, do I just dismiss everything I was not involved in?
The way you just explained what happened right now is an example of why I don't trust you with it. Sounds like you are trying to play me.
also i don't know that u are trustworthy..what was the reason u nuked SC recently? didnt u have a plan with jim to make a fake forum to get peoples login details? wasn't the only reason u didn't go through with that cos jim embarrassed chet? i may not be the sweetest but i just don't have the time or energy to be doing shit like that. meanwhile u have been manipulated by chet and supposedly kronos.
I turned the site off because it was filled with pedophilia filth
If we're being technical, it wasn't when you finally did it. It was being managed into Mega-Threads, yet you still flipped shit and did it anyway. I'm glad the website is back and everything, but you didn't even look around first to see what the current context was, you were already swept into an idea in lieu of the immediate reality that was a week out of date. This alone is why I find your sense of action threatening.
He was getting bored of being handled and just starting to give up, then you reignited the flame.
I was told what was on the site and I saw what was on the site after I put it back up and I do not agree.