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Did you know that most people think they are smarter than they are?


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Did you know that most people think they are smarter than they actually are?

Lately I've been thinking about this a bit more, and I started thinking... Am I actually really retarded? Could it be that I'm just not realizing that I lack the ability to introspect? I look at all these idiots around me, who are hopelessly unaware of their own stupidity. Am I actually like them?

All this was brought about recently when my wife started asking me if I'm actually a bit slow. I told her, quite confidently, that I am the smartest in the world and that I'm a genius.

But then I started thinking. I always look back at my failures and fuck ups and think to myself, they were just small roadblocks in the way of building my genius, and that I am somehow much smarter now than I once was. But now I'm not sure. Everyone seems to treat me like I'm an idiot. I constantly ask people for advice and they keep giving me stuff that I never thought about, like an idiot would. I used to think it's all for making me grow as a person, but I seem to be about the same as I was 20 years ago. So I'm starting to think and doubt myself. Maybe I'm not a genius after all? Maybe I'm actually really dumb.

I occasionally compare myself to Socrates. Plato used to always compliment him, like he was the father of all philosophy, as he questioned and embarrassed the old sages of Greece with his motto, "I know nothing." But if Socrates didn't know anything, and he was an idiot, isn't it a bit paradoxical that he was simultaneously considered smart? He was basically like Xadem, and I doubt anyone here would disagree that Xadem's a retard. I used to somehow think that because I imitated Socrates, I was like Socrates, but I have no great thoughts, and I lack critical thinking skills. So is it just that I am like Socrates in my own mind, but in reality I'm much more like that TV news channel kathy newman who embarrassed herself in front of her own news channel as she was trying to corner Jordan B Peterson....?

I'm not really sure. People seem to think I'm an idiot, but I think I know better. I wonder if I'm just wrong and I'm actually really, really dumb. But then I feel like I'm quite smart, so that seems paradoxical. I think I just appear to be really dumb to people, but I'm actually wise, like Socrates. Not sure. Even Inquirer thought I was an idiot when he was ridiculing me before losing that debate, people seem to think I'm a lot dumber than I actually am. It's like, evidence, so there must be some objective standard?

The only person here that I think is genuinely dumb is Lenalee. Xadem is also quite silly. Friedrich and Luna I would say were slightly below average. Thrill Kill was also an idiot. I think the reason people don't understand nor are able to communicate on the same wavelength as me is because I'm smart and introspective but now I think it may just be because I'm an idiot and lack the ability to introspect..?

last edit on 8/24/2023 12:40:45 PM
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0 votes RE: Do you think I'm a bit retarded and stupid?

nvm 

last edit on 8/24/2023 1:08:40 PM
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I've tended to have others telling me I'm smart rather than me exclaiming it about myself. 

It shows similar results out of people to Dunning Kruger generally. 

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last edit on 8/24/2023 2:27:54 PM
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I've tended to have others telling me I'm smart rather than me exclaiming it about myself. 

It shows similar results out of people to Dunning Kruger generally.

I think you're reasonably smart.

Did you know that while you yourself are bad at seeing the deficits in your own logic and personality, others aren't that much better either?

You, like others, order-rank people based on a substituted question rather than an objective standard. If you were now asked to produce a list of the dumbest and smartest people here, chances are you'd be producing a list of who you like or who you agreed with or who aligned their views with yours or according to the rules of reciprocation.

You can figure out the answer to the question better by coming up with an objective standard first, combining your standard with others' standards, asking everyone to score each person independently, according to that "unified" standard, and then combining the scores. And then re-visiting the problem again in 1 week and scoring people a second time and taking the average. Crazy.

Do you want to give it a try? We could find out who really is a genius and who really is an idiot, following the best current practices.

last edit on 8/25/2023 1:42:20 AM
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You really think Fried is dumber or equivalent to my intelligence? I'm right under average for US which is 97iq while mine is 95. Also for the state I live in I think it's more like a real average not under but I don't remember.

last edit on 8/25/2023 8:12:31 AM
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Did you know that while you yourself are bad at seeing the deficits in your own logic and personality, others aren't that much better either?

You, like others, order-rank people based on a substituted question rather than an objective standard. If you were now asked to produce a list of the dumbest and smartest people here, chances are you'd be producing a list of who you like or who you agreed with or who aligned their views with yours or according to the rules of reciprocation.

I'm more likely to award what I perceive as that instead through quickness, adaptability, and sympathy, which itself isn't brain power so much as brain speed. 

There are smart people with a very limited range, and dumb people with a willingness to try. I tend to like somewhere in between once it shows a recombination of intelligence with an openness to things outside of themselves, but yes this is moreso preferential rather than measuring IQ or something like that. 

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Aren't those qualities you yourself have?

 

If I were to rank people based on a criteria I'd rank them according to a combination of IQ, academic success, career, and ability to adapt.

 

How would you rank the members here based on my and your criteria? Say, you give a score of 1-3. We can keep the list down to Good, Xadem, PalePeach, Friedrich, you, me, Alice, Blanc, Delora, and Spatial.

last edit on 8/25/2023 5:06:31 PM
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quickness, adaptability, sympathy, IQ, Academic success, career

1. Good: 2 1 3 3 2 2

2. Xadem 1 1 3 2 1 1

3. PalePeach 2 2 3 2 2 2

4. Friedrich 1 1 3 2 3 3

5. Turncoat 2 3 3 2 1 1

6. Legga 1 3 3 3 3 3

7. Blanc 1 1 2 2 2 1

8. Delora 1 1 2 3 2 2

9. Spatial 3 3 3 2 2 3

Adaptibility should be weighted double.

last edit on 8/25/2023 5:15:33 PM
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Aren't those qualities you yourself have?

I dunno, do I? 

 
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Bruh, Delora has some of the worst sympathy and Peach has some of the best. I'm autistic but even I couldn't imagine being as self absorbed every second and for every belief. Like I get that as a male there's different standards for behavior but it just seems tiresome to be like that even I wanted to be.

last edit on 8/26/2023 12:12:49 AM
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