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Turncoat said: 

Delora said: 

Turncoat said: 

If this is what you got out of it than you have no idea what my perspective even is.

Tc doesn't care. Tc's general take is apathy. it is a subconscious coping mechanism. But this level of semi apathetic voyeurism (which has gotten them cucked) also makes them a good moderator. Analysing the issues of others distracts them from her own problems at times.  

My general take is that people need to be emotionally honest, and I have been the one defending Turquie's posting for a while over how I like when they go interesting places and over an idea of maintaining equality between users. I have also admitted to when it has been frustrating or otherwise affecting me in her and I's talks, and if I were apathetic entirely I'd not be invested. 

With you meanwhile you have been itching for a fight all day to outlet aggression over your husband, and I'm not going to be a tool you can use and then redirect attention at when you're clearly demonstrating off behavior. 

Now why don't you let her and I actually talk about interesting things. 

 You are rather sadistic towards her. 

Your version of people being emotionally honest is in fact them acting like or claiming they feel the way you think they do for the reasons you think to reinforce your false belief you understand others to the degree you think you do. 

Meanwhile neither you nor the person likely know why the fuck they act or feel how they do.

No tc most people do not have fun with direct sadism with other people and the fact that you are sitting here saying you with your study come here and use your "skills" to mentally torment people in a place where so many people here are mentally ill is irritating at the very least. 

This is a place that could be a sanctuary where the insane can be insane together and have a sense of community but you lurk here with your taunting and your commentary and your narcissism and claim it is normal.

A hobby of being sadistic to the vulnerable is not normal. 

You are not normal.

Yet you are the very thing you torment and that is the irony with you isn't it? And yet on some level you are aware of this. 

If you are going to talk about "emotional honesty" which is difficult for people with the conditions they have here why not start with yourself. 

You are a blind person mocking other blind people for not being "honest" about a painting all of you stare at when you understand it no more than anybody else around you. 

That is not normal. You are not normal. Most of Freud's reading of human nature was done upon sexual deviants and criminals which affected the assessment greatly and made his study flawed. 

And that is only one example of the fathers of the studies of the human mind being very VERY innacurate in their methods of assessment.

Stop using flawed science such as psychology as a method of pretending what you do is the average.

But in there in all your bullshit is someone who was once my friend.

You know what? There are things I respect about you too. 

The way you help this community by being a mod is something I have always admired and felt you were underappreciated for. I also admit you are very intelligent. I can also recognize another person who has been through a lot as someone who is like that myself. 

You also possess a level of humor that despite my lack of ability to always understand jokes I respect. 

I had fun that day in the woods and I respect what you did for my husband by trip sitting him when he was on shrooms, and despite your involvement in br and i's past arguments that's not actually my issue with you because I know it was well intentioned. 

The fact that you were brave enough to go to college and try to make something of yourself is something I respect. 

And you are someone who when we were friends, I am glad for the friendship we had and appreciate it. 

I admit to a certain level there are a lot of things I admire about you too. 

And I am glad you were a friend who brought happiness to br for a certain period of time. 

Despite your sadism, you do have an ability to help users here instead you know that. 

And you sometimes do try and I see it. And I respect it immensely. But you can't torment the same person you try to help or you harm more than help in the end. 

I am not trying to draw attention away from my recent bout of insanity. I will say it right here and now. Yes. I ripped out my own fucking tooth for sexual pleasure and also out of a certain level of self hatred and no I don't know why. 

Now that I said this, I hope it is clear that my intentions are not diversion though I understand why it appears that way.

I am just as willing to make this conversation private but I don't think you would see it or consider it. 

We are all demons here. And this is hell. But inside of every demon, is a rainbow. 

And when she said "I" I consider it from the perspective of SC as if SC were an individual entity.

I firmly believe we can help each other on a professional level and team up to make SC a better place.

If you like, I can take this to a different thread although I feel this is more related to the topic than it appears.

Turncoat said: 

shamanqueen said: 

Turncoat said: 

Could you sum it up for me then in your own words? 

You disagree with my choosing of the free, creative, imaginative, energetic, intuitive and spiritual path of shamanism and with my beliefs that compassion, unconditional nonjudgmental love and forgiveness are essential energies that are necessary to be channeled by anyone professing to be a healer during psychological and soul healing

If this is what you got out of it than you have no idea what my perspective even is. 

 

okay well this is how I perceive your perspective and it upsets me,  because I feel like I have to be constantly on the defense with everything that I post when really what I want is peace and to spread compassion and peace and forgiveness around the forum,  even though I am not always perfect at it

I do not really want to fight and argue about my perspectives because to me it is not a "right/ wrong battle" at least not anymore,  maybe that it how I was in the past but not anymore I do not want to force or control anyone and I do not even like offending people honestly even though I take that risk when sharing views about God and reality that not everyone understands,  I just want to share information that has inspired me or helped me on my healing journey,  as well well as post about my breakthroughs and accomplishments but to be honest it always feels like you are trying to belittle and dismiss almost anything that I post and that is actually really upsetting and distressing to me when I am not greyrocking it

what would you say your perspective about myself and my values and spiritual beliefs and beliefs about psychological and soul healing and my beliefs in general are?  keeping in mind that many of my beliefs have changed to the point that they are pretty much the opposite from what they used to be a couple of years ago and every day more of my beliefs are shifting and changing.  I am going through saturn return if you want to look that up because I know that you are into astrology,  it is all about clearing past patterns and limitations and karma but really I have been doing this my whole adult life,  it is just a lot more intense now,  well I would say for the past four years especially it has been intensifying

What would you say I'd need to do to have my perspective be more understood? 

I personally find debate healthy, it gives us a chance to work out our beliefs into more coherent words, and the exchange gives us a chance to learn about the other and potentially even consolidate what bits and bobs we like about their path. 

Delora said: 

I am not trying to draw attention away from my recent bout of insanity. I will say it right here and now. Yes. I ripped out my own fucking tooth for sexual pleasure and also out of a certain level of self hatred and no I don't know why. 

Now that I said this, I hope it is clear that my intentions are not diversion though I understand why it appears that way.

I am just as willing to make this conversation private but I don't think you would see it or consider it. 

 

 

 

We are all demons here. And this is hell. But inside of every demon, is a rainbow. 

And when she said "I" I consider it from the perspective of SC as if SC were an individual entity.

 

I firmly believe we can help each other on a professional level and team up to make SC a better place.

If you like, I can take this to a different thread although I feel this is more related to the topic than it appears.

I like this idea and I would like to believe the same,  it is interesting to think about the potential of sociopathcommunity becoming a healing environment  I would like that for sure but I do not know how everyone else would feel about it so I continue to try to leave this forum because of feeling like people are not interested in my attempts and because of feeling attacked and belittled and dismissed by Turncoat

Turncoat said: 

What would you say I'd need to do to have my perspective be more understood? 

I personally find debate healthy, it gives us a chance to work out our beliefs into more coherent words, and the exchange gives us a chance to learn about the other and potentially even consolidate what bits and bobs we like about their path. 

I am not sure,  but I know that I am not really preferring to argue anymore  OH there is a youtube video on nonviolent communication that I need to watch that I forgot about,  and the purpose of this process that he teaches is supposed to connect in a way that makes natural giving possible  I really, really need to watch this

this is from public chat when you and I were discussing the other day

Turncoat said:

03/28/2023 03:13:12 Turncoat
I find it healthier to keep varied company.
03/28/2023 03:13:20 Turncoat
Likeminded people will just echo chamber.
03/28/2023 03:14:32 Turncoat
Likeminded people say "I agree" to such a degree that you end up not challenging your own beliefs enough to refine them further.
03/28/2023 03:14:56 Turncoat
With people of various views, it gives room to at the very least recognize the larger world.
03/28/2023 03:15:54 Turncoat
No like, I get your view, but my critique of it you do not like.
03/28/2023 03:16:46 Turncoat
Do you think that like... if someone disagrees, that it's just them not getting it?
03/28/2023 03:16:56 Turncoat
There are people who could understand you and *still* choose a different path.
03/28/2023 03:17:47 Turncoat
What is my perspective greyrock?
03/28/2023 03:18:10 Turncoat
Like I'm not even 100% certain of my own sometimes. XD

umm,  soo for me I have reached a point where I have decided on my path and on my general values and beliefs and now I am following that path  and I am looking more for encouragement and guidance towards my goals,  and not really arguing about my values and beliefs anymore  like,  I am committed to them and not really searching for "something better / different"  this is my personal preference and where I am on my journey now

soo I am not really interested in arguing / debating about stuff anymore,  more interested in the sharing of information without being in a debate format-  such as contributing rather than trying to tear apart / destroy because that stuff hurts when you have already committed to something,  which I have

In the past I had not,  so I was interested in arguing and debating more back then because I was still figuring out my values and beliefs and Identity.  but I have those figured out now,  and when you argue and debate them it feels like a personal attack because I am not looking for those types of conversations anymore,  I am more looking for constructive,  co-creative, collaborative, encouraging, inspiring types of conversations-  not the me / us  vs.  you / them mentality  (especially since my spiritual beliefs include an appreciation for unity consciousness in all of humanity possibly happening in the future and integration of all of my soul parts)

shamanqueen said:

what would you say your perspective about myself and my values and spiritual beliefs and beliefs about psychological and soul healing and my beliefs in general are?

From having watched your journey so far, I came in around the time you were worshipping sins. 

You began with Sin, then went to Wicca, then went to Lilith, then went to Satanism, then went to Christianity, then went to Shamanism. During this journey you have tried to grab bits and pieces from each, but often insisted your collage of ideas were all under one umbrella term. 

You have kept to your black and white mindset in spite of yourself, idealizing balance nowadays but still finding excuses to only accept what you see as goodness and light. Your idea of healing you see more like purging, rather than cleansing.