Sociopath Community

janitor said: 

Turncoat said: 

shamanqueen said: 

from my thread on motivation and values  why would it be okay for someone who professes to be a healer to have schadenfreude ?  from my perspective healing is about helping people out of their suffering and torment,  not enjoying watching them suffering and being tormented

Most people enjoy the suffering of another, yourself included during points of catharsis. It is normal to the human condition to enjoy it, but if I don't watch myself it can get a little emotionally sadistic through teasing and sarcasm. 

I wouldn't say most people enjoy other's suffering

but people with personality diagnoses such as antisocial personality may delight in the pain of others and have little regard for others' well-being. Chronic anxiety, depression, or low self-esteem might also cause someone to seek validation in others' failures.

Did you know sadism correlates with extreme depression. 

 

Would you correlate the above with how much people enjoy violent media and dark comedy? 

Turncoat said: 

shamanqueen said: 

Turncoat said: 

 More running huh? 

what ?  No,  I have taken into consideration your opinions and beliefs in general and specifically about my spiritual beliefs and I have found that I disagree with many of your opinions and beliefs and I think that you are very incorrect about how genuine healing and spirituality should be practiced. 

So rather than talk it out you just "goodbye" at it? 

leave it for what it is,  I consider most of your beliefs about healing and spirituality to be unhealthy and toxic and harmful to yourself and to other people and promoting hate and separation consciousness.  I was going to write this before I left,  so I will just write it now and now I am leaving,  goodbye

You also have many unhealthy, toxic, and self-harmful beliefs, yet you don't (typically) see me reminding you of that during your journey. 

what are you talking about ?  this is all that I even notice you doing when you rrspond to my threads,  meanwhile I rarely ever do that to you  why are you being dishonest ?  this feels very dishonest.  I can look through all of your responses to my threads and almost all of them you seem to try to only point out what you disagree with or think of as "weak and/or stupid with rarely any encouragement unless I completely throw away my individuality and personal sovereignty and my beliefs and values and everything that I love to do and practice

of course I would like to talk it out with you as I desire to influence peace and compassion and forgiveness,  but when you constantly try to dig into me and remind me of the same stuff that you consider to be "my shadow"over and over again when I read and replied to your comments in the past and told you that I am not ignoring what you have brought to light,  I just do not agree with it and plus didn't you post in this thread-

Turncoat said:

Why do you figure it needs to be forced? Don't they have their entire lives to learn their lessons?

I tend to see it as better to be a reinforcing element, a reminder of the things they won't look at, in the hopes that at a later time it will echo in their head when it is most relevant. Most people will not just do as you say, even in a position of authority, even if you have the right answers, over how someone gave that answer to them and potentially acted authoritarian with the advice.

People have to learn it within their own Perspective, within their own POV, as just being told it tends to not translate unless they are in a cry for help mindset already looking for a way to fix things.

Patience is hard, but people need it.

so what is your deal then,  why do you keep from my perspective trying to attack me and harm me ?  I do not see anything beneficial to the way that you have been in the past responding to my threads

yes,  I would like to try to believe that you also would like peace and compassion and forgiveness,  and to be diplomatic,  and to focus on what can be appreciated about me and the good qualities about myself that I have successfully been nurturing and developing in myself,  but is any of this even true about you ? how am I supposed to trust you when you are continually attempting to harm me ? healing is about being compassionate so that the soul fragments will come back  (and this is the same for Internal Family Systems therapy,  and mpd therapy- compassion heals more than almost anything else) and you do not seem to have much compassion in yourself at all,  or at least you rarely if ever express it towards myself and towards the forum members here that I have seen.

compassion is the healer,  unconditional nonjudgmental love is the healer,  forgiveness is the healer-  where are yours ? and how can you profess to be a healer if you cannot even channel these energies and use these energies to help people ?

people do not go to therapists to be traumatized by the therapist  (at least most people)  they go for compassion and understanding and healing guidance so what are you doing ?  how dare that you even think that you have the right "to harm people in order to heal them"  and even enjoy and laugh at and derive sexual pleasure from other people's pain and suffering as well as your own ? That is super, super unhealthy and toxic Turncoat

trust me Turncoat,  I am aware that you have professed to not agree that many of my spiritual beliefs and the way that I am working out my relationship issues through what seems to be to you an imaginary relationship with Michael Majlak  (which went from relationship to aquaintenceship) because you have expressed your opinions about this in posts in my threads many, many times.

yes,  I see you  yes,  I acknowledge and understand your perspective,  and no,  I do not agree that my spiritual beliefs are harmful to myself and other people  in fact I think that working out my relationship issues through what seems to be to an imaginary relationship to you is healthier than going through all of that in an In real life relationship from my perspective  and you do not need to keep repeating your perspective over and over,  because I have already seen your opinion and told you that I disagree

No,  I am not perfectly peaceful and perfectly compassionate and perfectly unconditionally nonjudgmentally loving yet,  but I am at least trying to nurture and develop those qualities in myself as much as possible and that should be appreciated and respected by anyone who professes to be a healer,  and this is my perspective

shamanqueen said:

yes, I see you yes, I acknowledge and understand your perspective

Could you sum it up for me then in your own words? 

Turncoat said: 

shamanqueen said:

yes, I see you yes, I acknowledge and understand your perspective

Could you sum it up for me then in your own words? 

You disagree with my choosing of the free, creative, imaginative, energetic, intuitive and spiritual path of shamanism and with my beliefs that compassion, unconditional nonjudgmental love and forgiveness are essential energies that are necessary to be channeled by anyone professing to be a healer during psychological and soul healing

and you disagree with my choosing to work through my relationship issues through what seems to be to you an imaginary relationship instead of an In real life relationship

and for myself personally the distinction between the Imaginary realm and the spiritual realm and the In real life realm is not really there everything is all mixed together-  I think that this is because of my shamanic gifting  I am always in both worlds at the same time and I use imagining to manifest stuff  and I did want to manifest Michael and I being in an In real life relationship at first,  but I do not trust him enough to feel safe around him because of his behaviors plus the relationship in my mind turned into an aquaintenceship because of his behaviors

but I do not hold people to their past and I know that people can change for the healthier,  and I am keeping my healthy boundaries and unless he starts behaving appreciatively and respectfully towards myself I do not want anything more than this what seems to be imaginary to you aquaintenceship that I have with him

and I apologize for all of the ways that I harmed you in the past if I did Turncoat.  I was responding to what seemed like threats at the time,  and not always in the healthiest of ways.  and I do still have some triggers,  but a lot less than I used to and I am working on healing the remaining triggers that I have

shamanqueen said: 

Turncoat said: 

shamanqueen said:

yes, I see you yes, I acknowledge and understand your perspective

Could you sum it up for me then in your own words? 

You disagree with my choosing of the free, creative, imaginative, energetic, intuitive and spiritual path of shamanism and with my beliefs that compassion, unconditional nonjudgmental love and forgiveness are essential energies that are necessary to be channeled by anyone professing to be a healer during psychological and soul healing

If this is what you got out of it than you have no idea what my perspective even is. 

"Most people enjoy the suffering of another, yourself included during points of catharsis. It is normal to the human condition to enjoy it, but if I don't watch myself it can get a little emotionally sadistic through teasing and sarcasm. "

Br is with me instead of you because I am a real woman and you will never be that. You were his bro and nothing more, and now because you are so easily manipulated despite being such an "expert" you don't even have that. 

There. I just used sadism upon you as you have me many times. The difference between us is I have the guts to be direct with it.

I used to pity you while ironically having a level of respect for you, respect beyond that of what is a general given that I have for all people I first meet; however, I am so aware of the amount of sadism you have had towards me that it is difficult for such a level of pity to remain.

Turncoat said: 

shamanqueen said: 

Turncoat said: 

Could you sum it up for me then in your own words? 

You disagree with my choosing of the free, creative, imaginative, energetic, intuitive and spiritual path of shamanism and with my beliefs that compassion, unconditional nonjudgmental love and forgiveness are essential energies that are necessary to be channeled by anyone professing to be a healer during psychological and soul healing

If this is what you got out of it than you have no idea what my perspective even is. 

 

 Tc doesn't care. Tc's general take is apathy. it is a subconscious coping mechanism. But this level of semi apathetic voyeurism (which has gotten them cucked) also makes them a good moderator. Analysing the issues of others distracts them from her own problems at times.  

Delora said: 

Turncoat said: 

shamanqueen said: 

You disagree with my choosing of the free, creative, imaginative, energetic, intuitive and spiritual path of shamanism and with my beliefs that compassion, unconditional nonjudgmental love and forgiveness are essential energies that are necessary to be channeled by anyone professing to be a healer during psychological and soul healing

If this is what you got out of it than you have no idea what my perspective even is.

Tc doesn't care. Tc's general take is apathy. it is a subconscious coping mechanism. But this level of semi apathetic voyeurism (which has gotten them cucked) also makes them a good moderator. Analysing the issues of others distracts them from her own problems at times.  

My general take is that people need to be emotionally honest, and I have been the one defending Turquie's posting for a while over how I like when they go interesting places and over an idea of maintaining equality between users. I have also admitted to when it has been frustrating or otherwise affecting me in her and I's talks, and if I were apathetic entirely I'd not be invested. 

With you meanwhile you have been itching for a fight all day to outlet aggression over your husband, and I'm not going to be a tool you can use and then redirect attention at when you're clearly demonstrating off behavior. 

Now why don't you let her and I actually talk about interesting things.