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PastelPink said: 

 Imo, for gender that could reasonably be a personal choice and the boomers telling her she should wait are kinda dicks.

Testing for genetic issues I would absolutely do and I think others should, but it is of course still their personal choice and shouldn't be forced on them. I would abort a fetus with any genetic issue. The sooner to find out the better. Fo others who wouldn't terminate, knowing ahead if time that they are going to have a disabled child would at least give them time to prepare.

Also, obligatory reminder that, technically speaking, people with down syndrome are not actually human because they have a different number of chromosomes. Offspring of a species having a different number of chromosomes from their parent generation, then reproducing with other offspring of the parent species that have the same number of chromosomes as them is a recognized route of evolution from an ancestor species to a new species. It may not sound PC, but that's biology. (Example, lots of species of daisies that look similar, but cannot be cross-pollinatated.)

 In gentler more office politic friendly terms this is essentially what I said, although I didn't know they are technically a different species, and got admonished by my boss who thinks that "difficult to love babies just need more love" and implied I'm a bad person

Anyway the testing was done, there are no abnormalities and it's a boy! NIPT (non evasive pregnancy testing) costs ≈$500 where I'm from while essentially everything else medical is free. I wonder why as a society we are choosing to discourage finding out about serious disability in favour of spending many more resources to care for people with defects like downs syndrome for the rest of their life. It's not even illegal for them to then breed and create more burden on society 

velvet said: 

PastelPink said: 

 Imo, for gender that could reasonably be a personal choice and the boomers telling her she should wait are kinda dicks.

Testing for genetic issues I would absolutely do and I think others should, but it is of course still their personal choice and shouldn't be forced on them. I would abort a fetus with any genetic issue. The sooner to find out the better. Fo others who wouldn't terminate, knowing ahead if time that they are going to have a disabled child would at least give them time to prepare.

Also, obligatory reminder that, technically speaking, people with down syndrome are not actually human because they have a different number of chromosomes. Offspring of a species having a different number of chromosomes from their parent generation, then reproducing with other offspring of the parent species that have the same number of chromosomes as them is a recognized route of evolution from an ancestor species to a new species. It may not sound PC, but that's biology. (Example, lots of species of daisies that look similar, but cannot be cross-pollinatated.)

 In gentler more office politic friendly terms this is essentially what I said, although I didn't know they are technically a different species, and got admonished by my boss who thinks that "difficult to love babies just need more love" and implied I'm a bad person

Anyway the testing was done, there are no abnormalities and it's a boy! NIPT (non evasive pregnancy testing) costs ≈$500 where I'm from while essentially everything else medical is free. I wonder why as a society we are choosing to discourage finding out about serious disability in favour of spending many more resources to care for people with defects like downs syndrome for the rest of their life. It's not even illegal for them to then breed and create more burden on society 

 what kind of office does your work look like?

ddddddld said:

what kind of office does your work look like?

 Small and not very professional, my job takes me out of the office for most of the day so I'm only in there having to make chit chat for an hour or two in the afternoon

velvet said: 

ddddddld said:

what kind of office does your work look like?

 Small and not very professional, my job takes me out of the office for most of the day so I'm only in there having to make chit chat for an hour or two in the afternoon

 What do you do? 

Xadem said: 

velvet said: 

ddddddld said:

what kind of office does your work look like?

 Small and not very professional, my job takes me out of the office for most of the day so I'm only in there having to make chit chat for an hour or two in the afternoon

 What do you do? 

 Hotel management 

What do you do?

I think the response to this question reflects a personal ideology that varies based on the worldview if one has. I see both sides. Some doctors prefer not to reveal gender, especially early in a pregnancy, because the expectant mother becomes more attached to the fetus and the dream of her future child. Then bam, she miscarries and the gelatinous mess in the toilet bowl, she named Bruce, is very painful to meet irl and she becomes a fucking mess. I saw this with a girl at work go through this. I requested a new desk so I wouldn't have to listen to her sobbing. It was unprofessional.

velvet said: 

Xadem said: 

velvet said: 

 Small and not very professional, my job takes me out of the office for most of the day so I'm only in there having to make chit chat for an hour or two in the afternoon

 What do you do? 

 Hotel management 

What do you do?

 

 

 

 you manage hotels out of the office, how does that look like? 

ddddddld said: 

I think the response to this question reflects a personal ideology that varies based on the worldview if one has. I see both sides. Some doctors prefer not to reveal gender, especially early in a pregnancy, because the expectant mother becomes more attached to the fetus and the dream of her future child. Then bam, she miscarries and the gelatinous mess in the toilet bowl, she named Bruce, is very painful to meet irl and she becomes a fucking mess. I saw this with a girl at work go through this. I requested a new desk so I wouldn't have to listen to her sobbing. It was unprofessional.

 How far along was she? She must have miscarried quite late if the doctor was already able to tell the gender, and in that case I wager she would have already been very attached 

ddddddld said:

you manage hotels out of the office, how does that look like?

 No I only manage one department of one hotel, so I'm usually off somewhere actively doing that then only head to the office for paperwork and the like 

I prefer to spend as much time out of the office as I can

velvet said: 

ddddddld said: 

I think the response to this question reflects a personal ideology that varies based on the worldview if one has. I see both sides. Some doctors prefer not to reveal gender, especially early in a pregnancy, because the expectant mother becomes more attached to the fetus and the dream of her future child. Then bam, she miscarries and the gelatinous mess in the toilet bowl, she named Bruce, is very painful to meet irl and she becomes a fucking mess. I saw this with a girl at work go through this. I requested a new desk so I wouldn't have to listen to her sobbing. It was unprofessional.

 How far along was she? She must have miscarried quite late if the doctor was already able to tell the gender, and in that case I wager she would have already been very attached 

 I don't know how far along she was. Her stomach didn't show a baby yet though. I just googled and learned they can tell sex at 11=12 weeks. I think that's quite early.