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0 votes RE: Is it transphobic to not want to date trans people?

They slap derogatory labels on people who aren't homosexual. This time they call it transphobia.

'Only a small fraction of straight people will date a transgender' Well no, those people are bisexual.

Gay men want to date men, they are into men, while for the man in a dress, the best and most likely option for 'them are gay guys. Not good enough. I understand homosexuals wish they had access to more guys.

Women are having their identities stolen by queer men. By definition, a woman is an adult female, not some fruity guy who envies a woman's beauty so much he'll assume to be one alongside other disordered individuals.

"I'm trapped in the wrong body" 

Yeah you have a disorder

"It's not a disorder we can fix this"

Not happening.

This is why the US military never wanted to recruit transgenders, they lack critical thinking skills.

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0 votes RE: Is it transphobic to not want to date trans people?

If you find them attractive, but then turn away from them once you find out their trans, it might be transphobia. 

Now when I call it that, I am not meaning you are being an anti-trans bigot, but it is a fear of exploring that in spite of yourself if you otherwise were attracted by the trap until it sprung. 

I feel like it'd be like suddenly turning on someone once you saw them out of makeup for the first time.

That sounds insane to me.

If you replaced finding out that they're trans with any other preference, you wouldn't call them x-phobic. Or would you?

I think you are taking phobic as if to mean more than 'fear of', which makes sense relatively when that's often how some of the current political climate use it themselves. 

People can range from uncomfortable to outright fleeing from something without being otherwise bad people. 

Like, you found out they were broke and in debt for life. Are you then poor-phobic?

Kind of like Peniaphobia? 

Or you found out they have criminal history?

Scelerophobia?

Or you found out they have a dick, and you don't want to have a dick up your ass.

You can respond to that without being Excessively Coitophobic though. 

I think it's perfectly ok to not want to date someone when you see them without makeup for the first time if they look absolutely horrid. It sounds unfair, but people stop dating others for smaller reasons: "I just didn't feel it." Finding out someone has the same chromosomes as you might mean you can't get your dick up. Do you then just suck up your pride and live the rest of your life in misery?

If someone legitimately has a debilitating enough phobia of something to the point that it gets in the way of what they otherwise were fully into before, it may be for the best that they avoid the sources of those fears, at least far enough to work on the problem and address it when more prepared for it. 

Homophobia is a great example actually, there's plenty of men comfortable being with homosexual people without having a dick in their ass at the end of the day, and if that led to some attraction confusion then it simply has to be addressed as something like "I just didn't feel it". 

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0 votes RE: Is it transphobic to not want to date trans people?
Good said: 

 I do not know. I am not sure it's humanly possible lol.

What if they used an ikea plastic bag to cover their dick, took hormones to grow tits the size of watermelons, and fed you lollipops while sucking your ding-dong, garbling 'oh master' while their smooth, well-taken-care-of beard was caressing your thighs?

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0 votes RE: Is it transphobic to not want to date trans people?
I think you are taking phobic as if to mean more than 'fear of', which makes sense relatively when that's often how some of the current political climate use it themselves. 

People can range from uncomfortable to outright fleeing from something without being otherwise bad people.

Transphobic usually is taken to mean something rather derogatory in the current climate. If you mean something else with it, then that's fine, but then we're  talking about different things.

I don't think it's a fear or an aversion of something if you aren't attracted to a characteristic, a trait, or an idea.

Would you say it's homophobic for me not to want to date men? As in, men, not trans women, but men. Am I homophobic?

 

If someone legitimately has a debilitating enough phobia of something to the point that it gets in the way of what they otherwise were fully into before, it may be for the best that they avoid the sources of those fears, at least far enough to work on the problem and address it when more prepared for it. 
Phobia? I think you're conflating phobia with "all the other possible reasons." Surely there is more than one reason you might have a preference for dating? Is lack of sexual interest always an indication of an irrational fear?
last edit on 2/17/2023 5:55:07 PM
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1 votes RE: Is it transphobic to not want to date trans people?
Good said: 

 I do not know. I am not sure it's humanly possible lol.

What if they used an ikea plastic bag to cover their dick, took hormones to grow tits the size of watermelons, and fed you lollipops while sucking your ding-dong, garbling 'oh master' while their smooth, well-taken-care-of beard was caressing your thighs?

lol, I wasn't sure, but then you mentioned the beard. Might workout.

 

Cheery bye!
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0 votes RE: Is it transphobic to not want to date trans people?
This is why the US military never wanted to recruit transgenders, they lack critical thinking skills.

I thought the US military precisely targets people who lack critical thinking skills?

SpatialMind said:
Gay men want to date men, they are into men, while for the man in a dress, the best and most likely option for 'them are gay guys. Not good enough. I understand homosexuals wish they had access to more guys.

Hmm, most gay men also don't want to date trans people. I do think the dating pool is somewhat limited. Except for pornhub. Behind closed doors, people love transporn. Apparently.

Out of curiosity, do you believe being gay is also a mental disorder?

last edit on 2/17/2023 5:53:23 PM
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0 votes RE: Is it transphobic to not want to date trans people?
This is why the US military never wanted to recruit transgenders, they lack critical thinking skills.

I thought the US military precisely targets people who lack critical thinking skills?

Exactly that. They specifically don't want to recruit transgenders for that reason. Sometimes the transgender detransitions.

 

SpatialMind said:
Gay men want to date men, they are into men, while for the man in a dress, the best and most likely option for 'them are gay guys. Not good enough. I understand homosexuals wish they had access to more guys.

Hmm, most gay men also don't want to date trans people. I do think the dating pool is somewhat limited. Except for pornhub. Behind closed doors, people love transporn. Apparently.

I'm pretty sure all queer porn is the least viewed, and I'm not even looking it up. It's not about that though.

Gay men want men, while a man counterfeiting a woman is likely unappealing to them.

 

Out of curiosity, do you believe being gay is also a mental disorder?

 That's beyond me. I don't know where it comes from, nor can I tell you if it serves a purpose.

In the grand scheme, being straight is functional and serves a purpose. The 2 genders ( between all creatures ) are meant to be sexually attracted to one another, or select a mate of the opposite gender. There's a science behind it, with a higher purpose, or else we'll perish and never be again.

Homosexuality doesn't have a higher purpose. It's function is more self serving. Sodomy can also put someone in diapers when they're older due to a damaged anus, which is vile and unpleasant. In the grand scheme of things it appears to be a malfunction.

Being gay and a homosexual are 2 different things. I think for men in particular homosexuality is very destructive.

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0 votes RE: Is it transphobic to not want to date trans people?
I think you are taking phobic as if to mean more than 'fear of', which makes sense relatively when that's often how some of the current political climate use it themselves. 

People can range from uncomfortable to outright fleeing from something without being otherwise bad people.

Transphobic usually is taken to mean something rather derogatory in the current climate. If you mean something else with it, then that's fine, but then we're  talking about different things.

Alright, so instead we're going with it meaning Trans Intolerance then. 

A lot of people in the trans community come off as abrasive over presuming they have to start on the defensive. In many cases they are carrying baggage based on views of themselves and past events that still resonate with them, similarly to how the Furry community has shown issue with People overall, and a lot of people do not sympathize with them, even socially addressing them over it like it's their business to 'fix it'. 

Figure the frustration many have over being seen as subhuman by others' standards, then figure how much many struggle to find dates. Does it not make sense that they might develop a sense of resentment overtime like many MGTOW or Incels have over having faced enough perceived rejection? 

Would you say it's homophobic for me not to want to date men? As in, men, not trans women, but men. Am I homophobic?

It'd depend on how you are otherwise when around homosexual people. 

If you're sitting there imagining how one might put a dick in your ass if you aren't careful, then there may be some presumptive intolerance going on that is making for difficulty with others who happen to fit the archetype of the 'aversion'. 

We have a few decent examples of Homophobia and Transphobia on this forum, but the loudest expressions does not negate the quieter ones so much as gives others reason to tune them out. 

If someone legitimately has a debilitating enough phobia of something to the point that it gets in the way of what they otherwise were fully into before, it may be for the best that they avoid the sources of those fears, at least far enough to work on the problem and address it when more prepared for it. 
Phobia? I think you're conflating phobia with "all the other possible reasons." Surely there is more than one reason you might have a preference for dating? Is lack of sexual interest always an indication of an irrational fear?

When describing the above I was going with the definition you don't feel like addressing. 

Speaking as a bisexual however, it really does look like fear to me in a lot of cases. Someone can not be attracted to someone without making a big fuss about it, while others are so SQUICK over it that they act like the thoughts are damp and moist on their dry and sterilized brain. 

I don't really judge that fear any more than judging someone with a fear of snakes, but I will judge any intolerance that follows it over how it is having them not address the problem within themselves. Facing fears can be a healthy thing, and you don't even need to go as far as a dick in your ass to prove it. 

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last edit on 2/17/2023 6:25:36 PM
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0 votes RE: Is it transphobic to not want to date trans people?
This is why the US military never wanted to recruit transgenders, they lack critical thinking skills.

I thought the US military precisely targets people who lack critical thinking skills?

Exactly that. They specifically don't want to recruit transgenders for that reason. Sometimes the transgender detransitions.

Because transgender people don't lack critical thinking skills?

 

 That's beyond me. I don't know where it comes from, nor can I tell you if it serves a purpose.

In the grand scheme, being straight is functional and serves a purpose. The 2 genders ( between all creatures ) are meant to be sexually attracted to one another, or select a mate of the opposite gender. There's a science behind it, with a higher purpose, or else we'll perish and never be again.

Homosexuality doesn't have a higher purpose. It's function is more self serving. Sodomy can also put someone in diapers when they're older due to a damaged anus, which is vile and unpleasant. In the grand scheme of things it appears to be a malfunction.

Being gay and a homosexual are 2 different things. I think for men in particular homosexuality is very destructive.

If you believe in the evolutionary hypothesis the reason we have more straight people is because straight people tend to procreate, while gay people tend not to. That may change in the future, with the invention of sperm banks. It'll be interesting to see what happens then. Dystopia? Or Utopia?

last edit on 2/17/2023 6:25:16 PM
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0 votes RE: Is it transphobic to not want to date trans people?

Another thing worth noting: There are a good number trans people won't date other trans people. 

Transphobia extends even into the Trans Community, and it makes for some strange double standards. 

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last edit on 2/17/2023 6:27:11 PM
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