I can't deny that his approach won't get you laid or an instagram gym sponsorship, and I agree with you about his appeal in a climate that demonizes traditional ideas about masculinity. But I see it more as an escape fantasy machismo that reduces human relationships to some kinda primal serengeti Thunderdome where men are lone predators whose entire prerogative is to fuck women and fight each other.
I'd reckon his suggestions will get a guy laid, while women are usually hypergamous in nature.
It really doesn't hurt for a guy to focus on his health, wealth appearance and principals, which also happen to increase his value to what women want from men.
yeah but aint it kinda contrived and manipulative to curate this rich, hot gangster persona purely to attract superficial women? Its kinda what he accuses women of doing.. being fake and vapid to serve an ulterior motive?
One doesn't simply fake being like the Tates. They are both kickboxing champions, womanizing high value alphas, and self made.
Tate did what huge corporations spending billions on advertising couldn't do. They are literally hot shit, though a lot of what they say and do on camera is for show and a part of their scheme.
Idk whats wrong with just being yourself and finding compatible people. I've never had any issues doin that, and I look like an unshaven basoon and have the self-discipline of a 5 year old lol
Some guys want to date beautiful women and get laid.
It's better to train the self and prosper than to settle for being a loser, and let's be honest, most guys are loosers who are invisible to most women.
Transformation doesn't entail being someone we're not, it entails improvement of the self and the environment we build for ourselves.
I’d rather my son had the ability to self-define, rather than feeling constrained by social pressure. But I also wouldn’t mind him inheriting the idea that the best part of being a man is to be a protector, which requires male qualities like aggression, forcefulness, courage and so on. I don't think they're inherently toxic traits, as long as they exist in balance. This doesn't feel balanced though, and that's without even getting into the attitudes towards women.
For some of us, we recognize herd mentality and it's been created for Andrew Tate. People see clips of Andrew talking about choking out a woman and spanking her with a machete, but they don't know, the context was what would he do if he caught a sex partner trying to shove a knife in his back. The reply is actually more comedic.
The agenda is to make men more queer, and snuff us out. Make men into some working class, though we are, and we 99% built everything you see outside for several miles. So when we see men of influence actually inspiring men, and they don't fit the modern perversions from kindergarten, they'll get the media to stick labels on who they want destroyed.
Inspiring men to what though? I think if it was just hitting the gym and making money, no one would really care. That's the MO of lots of podcast dudes. People take issue with the comments about women being inferior, and why is that necessary to inspire men?
I don't recall Tate calling women inferior, that's something you've picked up elsewhere. His message would entail how men and women have different roles, and that upsets feminist.
Tate teaches men to be respectful of women, despite how they've become in this day and age. His message is for younger men cause most older guys wouldn't go through the effort to score, while it was much easier when we were young.
Guys aren't going to be inspired by woke people pushing woke narritives. They want to be inspired by men who live the male dream. That is health and wealth and women.