tate would be at home here, on sc.
dude is in prison since like 1 month and already you dont talk about him no more. dude is forgotten. buzz killed
8 days later this Thread turns out to be one of the biggest threads you ever made, while the forum is dead.
I think I'm missing something with the hero worship of this dude. He writes like a weird kid on the FBI's radar.
this is where i'm at with the guy:
i think just like anyone else, he has stupid thoughts and opinions. andrew tate isn't really who you go to for nuanced takes on politics, etc. he's a person who is particularly driven by the idea of masculinity and living the good life. tate says dumb shit sometimes, but when it comes to the sphere he cares about, which is making money and being attractive to females, the guy is on point. women hate him now because he seems like an enemy to feminism, but he wouldn't be pimping like they cry he is if he had zero game or knowledge. watch his shit that got pirated online
i think a lot of the worship comes from the lack of traditional masculine role models around. there's been jordan peterson, but he's more of an intellectual. men want to see a guy driving fast cars and being a chad, that's why they watch james bond. the value jumps up when we're in a society where people want us apologizing for toxic masculinity, being white, etc
I can't deny that his approach won't get you laid or an instagram gym sponsorship, and I agree with you about his appeal in a climate that demonizes traditional ideas about masculinity. But I see it more as an escape fantasy machismo that reduces human relationships to some kinda primal serengeti Thunderdome where men are lone predators whose entire prerogative is to fuck women and fight each other. Also can't deny that maybe that's an indispensable and occasionally fun part of being a man, but not to the exclusion of the fact that men are complex individuals who feel the entire spectrum of human emotions (even the gay ones lol).
I’d rather my son had the ability to self-define, rather than feeling constrained by social pressure. But I also wouldn’t mind him inheriting the idea that the best part of being a man is to be a protector, which requires male qualities like aggression, forcefulness, courage and so on. I don't think they're inherently toxic traits, as long as they exist in balance. This doesn't feel balanced though, and that's without even getting into the attitudes towards women.
i think part of this is that he makes men feel justified about beating or raping women, dehumanizing them and treating them as objects.
the character of many of these tate worshippers is questionable at best. look at tony. tc doxxed him for years and tony took 'the high road'. never sunk to that level. med dares to reject him, he sexually harasses her for years. i make some comments about tate and point out tony gets manipulated easily, and he literally creates a game version of me that he rapes at night.
THIS is the kind of person that worships tate.
I can't deny that his approach won't get you laid or an instagram gym sponsorship, and I agree with you about his appeal in a climate that demonizes traditional ideas about masculinity. But I see it more as an escape fantasy machismo that reduces human relationships to some kinda primal serengeti Thunderdome where men are lone predators whose entire prerogative is to fuck women and fight each other.
I'd reckon his suggestions will get a guy laid, while women are usually hypergamous in nature.
It really doesn't hurt for a guy to focus on his health, wealth appearance and principals, which also happen to increase his value to what women want from men.
Also can't deny that maybe that's an indispensable and occasionally fun part of being a man, but not to the exclusion of the fact that men are complex individuals who feel the entire spectrum of human emotions (even the gay ones lol).
The fun part is victory, overcoming bad situations are good after the fact. I think that's the same as it is with women, though Men tend to experience glory more often cause of how we are. It's mostly men we see doing heroic things, like rescuing animals etc.
When we look back at what we did, it'll look good or not, depending on what it is. We may take pride in what we've done.
I’d rather my son had the ability to self-define, rather than feeling constrained by social pressure. But I also wouldn’t mind him inheriting the idea that the best part of being a man is to be a protector, which requires male qualities like aggression, forcefulness, courage and so on. I don't think they're inherently toxic traits, as long as they exist in balance. This doesn't feel balanced though, and that's without even getting into the attitudes towards women.
For some of us, we recognize herd mentality and it's been created for Andrew Tate. People see clips of Andrew talking about choking out a woman and spanking her with a machete, but they don't know, the context was what would he do if he caught a sex partner trying to shove a knife in his back. The reply is actually more comedic.
The agenda is to make men more queer, and snuff us out. Make men into some working class, though we are, and we 99% built everything you see outside for several miles. So when we see men of influence actually inspiring men, and they don't fit the modern perversions from kindergarten, they'll get the media to stick labels on who they want destroyed.
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There are patterns with people who like and dislike the Tates. The differences between them seems to be IQ. The haters all echo what they were told to think, and celebrate his destruction based on their dislike for the guy. If Tate is freed, it'll upset his haters, even though they should be relieved that the accusations are false. They don't want it to be.
In a nutshell, Tate haters are widely people who have/take issues with the truth.
nothing to say huh tony. i guess you will respond in ur rape game so u feel like a man? 'whos d boss now. im d boss now'
smh i will never be able to think of you as anything other than a creepy rapey loser who fantasizes about lording over women while they sleep, because he cant get girls any other way. it's slightly incel like actually.
i think part of this is that he makes men feel justified about beating or raping women, dehumanizing them and treating them as objects.
the character of many of these tate worshippers is questionable at best. look at tony. tc doxxed him for years and tony took 'the high road'. never sunk to that level. med dares to reject him, he sexually harasses her for years. i make some comments about tate and point out tony gets manipulated easily, and he literally creates a game version of me that he rapes at night.
THIS is the kind of person that worships tate.
well yeah that's pretty fucking weird and uncool. I deliberately skirted around the whole women are whores thing coz what's the point lol, guys who think like that are gonna wind up in a Unabomber shack still thinking theyve got one up on the world. Its a played out track at this point - maybe they should move to Iran and poison schoolgirls or somthin
I do think conversations about masculinity are kinda interesting tho, coz I never really thought about it until recently. I guess this is the new Fight Club generation, except less nihilism and more mom issues
I can't deny that his approach won't get you laid or an instagram gym sponsorship, and I agree with you about his appeal in a climate that demonizes traditional ideas about masculinity. But I see it more as an escape fantasy machismo that reduces human relationships to some kinda primal serengeti Thunderdome where men are lone predators whose entire prerogative is to fuck women and fight each other.
I'd reckon his suggestions will get a guy laid, while women are usually hypergamous in nature.
It really doesn't hurt for a guy to focus on his health, wealth appearance and principals, which also happen to increase his value to what women want from men.
yeah but aint it kinda contrived and manipulative to curate this rich, hot gangster persona purely to attract superficial women? Its kinda what he accuses women of doing.. being fake and vapid to serve an ulterior motive?
Idk whats wrong with just being yourself and finding compatible people. I've never had any issues doin that, and I look like an unshaven basoon and have the self-discipline of a 5 year old lol
I’d rather my son had the ability to self-define, rather than feeling constrained by social pressure. But I also wouldn’t mind him inheriting the idea that the best part of being a man is to be a protector, which requires male qualities like aggression, forcefulness, courage and so on. I don't think they're inherently toxic traits, as long as they exist in balance. This doesn't feel balanced though, and that's without even getting into the attitudes towards women.
For some of us, we recognize herd mentality and it's been created for Andrew Tate. People see clips of Andrew talking about choking out a woman and spanking her with a machete, but they don't know, the context was what would he do if he caught a sex partner trying to shove a knife in his back. The reply is actually more comedic.
The agenda is to make men more queer, and snuff us out. Make men into some working class, though we are, and we 99% built everything you see outside for several miles. So when we see men of influence actually inspiring men, and they don't fit the modern perversions from kindergarten, they'll get the media to stick labels on who they want destroyed.
Inspiring men to what though? I think if it was just hitting the gym and making money, no one would really care. That's the MO of lots of podcast dudes. People take issue with the comments about women being inferior, and why is that necessary to inspire men?