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Turncoat said: 

healingqueen said: 

Turncoat said: 

So your goal is to forcibly combine two extremes, rather than seeking said middle ground on it's own? 

not forcibly,  from my understanding we are supposed to naturally be doing this  how else are you supposed to integrate your soul back together? 

By finding the midground through moderation? 

Taking one extreme in place of the other strikes me as Black & White or Feast/Famine thinking, and falls into the pursuit of perfection struggles a lot find themselves trapped in. 

even all of the western therapies teach to heal disorders like multiple personality disorder with unconditional love and gentleness and compassion because otherwise those other parts are not going to agree to integrate

Ideas like Radical Empathy and all that isn't so much Therapy as much as Faith. 

I personally follow practices of Harm Reduction and Self-Conditioning, both with the aim of reducing problem patterns without it having to be about faith at all. 

think of it this way-  if an animal poisons you and you are poisoned would you just want half of the poison out or all of it?  I could see saving a tiny bit in there to encourage immunity,  but just halfway getting it out of your system could still be fatal or you could lose an apendage depending on how potent the poison is

I do not understand what is so complicated about this concept lol  if something is very heavily imbalanced in one direction you apply the opposite direction to bring it back to center

I suppose that one has to have the goal of bringing all into balance and integration though  if not then maybe some of what you are talking about could happen

healingqueen said: 

Turncoat said: 

healingqueen said: 

not forcibly,  from my understanding we are supposed to naturally be doing this  how else are you supposed to integrate your soul back together? 

By finding the midground through moderation? 

Taking one extreme in place of the other strikes me as Black & White or Feast/Famine thinking, and falls into the pursuit of perfection struggles a lot find themselves trapped in. 

even all of the western therapies teach to heal disorders like multiple personality disorder with unconditional love and gentleness and compassion because otherwise those other parts are not going to agree to integrate

Ideas like Radical Empathy and all that isn't so much Therapy as much as Faith. 

I personally follow practices of Harm Reduction and Self-Conditioning, both with the aim of reducing problem patterns without it having to be about faith at all. 

think of it this way-  if an animal poisons you and you are poisoned would you just want half of the poison out or all of it? 

 

I could see saving a tiny bit in there to encourage immunity,  but just halfway getting it out of your system could still be fatal or you could lose an apendage depending on how potent the poison is

 

I do not understand what is so complicated about this concept lol  if something is very heavily imbalanced in one direction you apply the opposite direction to bring it back to center

I suppose that one has to have the goal of bringing all into balance and integration though  if not then maybe some of what you are talking about could happen

Moderation is moreover finding where the balance is, rather than flooding yourself with an extreme in the hopes of numbing the other one. 

do like this-

"by the power of God (or whatever you call the source of everything in existence), I balance all of my energies to health and wellness"

"by the power of God, I align all of my energies to health and wellness"

and then imagine hugging all of your energies in a big warm unconditionally loving forgiving compassionate hug

I am making this stuff up as I go but I am inspired by all that I have read about alternative healing and energy healing, and whatever feels healing to me I am doing that

and I am not trying to numb anything my intention is to integrate and balance  you are misinterpreting,  and if I was doing that (trying to numb myself)  I would settle for western therapies and psych medicine  ;)

don't shoot the messenger but you might not be working with the full truth about healing and how capable human beings are of healing themselves

When the conditions are shitty for the one who loves, then that's called unconditional love.

Does it conquer all ? Apparently not. If anything it'll make someone feel better about a bad situation.

On the bright side life as we know it is temporary. 

Canary said: 

When the conditions are shitty for the one who loves, then that's called unconditional love.

Does it conquer all ? Apparently not. If anything it'll make someone feel better about a bad situation.

On the bright side life as we know it is temporary. 

but eventually though  eventually in the human race and eventually in all of our personal soul evolutions  I would like to evolve into being more in those higher vibrations on a regular basis and the only practical way for me to do that is to keep experimenting with energy healing until I find the best solutions to healing a fragmented soul

Well, best of luck with your approach then. I will make sure to read on how it progresses. 

Turncoat said: 

healingqueen said: 

Turncoat said: 

I find unconditional love unhealthy. 

If you want me to elaborate you're free to ask. 

it depends on how you use it,  it can be used as medicine and it is actually the most powerful medicine in my opinion

I tend to see too much of anything as a bad thing, and that Unconditional makes it mean less to the recipient. 

The ones who are hard to please feel like they mean more. 

 I think unconditional love is good and is more valuable than conditional love because unconditional love has the potential to heal, like that person said, but I’m talking about healing the person who finds it less valuable because it’s unconditional.

I think it allows for the other person to discover who they really are. They are able to do the evil things they want, but then when you remain loving despite that, they realize you’re more valuable than they thought and they have the potential to change their behavior and outlook on life.

I think it also shows that the unconditional lover, values the other person for more than just what they do for them. It’s how we are supposed to live. That’s true love or pure love. Anything else is infatuation or lust or something because actions shouldn’t influence your love.

It should just add to the reasons you love them, not remove it completely. Conditional love is just preference because you only love them when they are pleasing to you or are acting a certain way, which means you don’t actually like them, just how they act in a given moment.

I think you just enjoy the challenge of being what others want, or you feel like you have to work for love because you don’t deserve it as you are. You have to please someone to deserve it. I think unconditional love is just the ability to forgive.

Whatever they do, you just forgive them because you love them. It’s like a brotherly love, like you know they’re only human and you don’t hold it against them. It’s a sign of a good person, to me, which is why it’s extremely rare on earth. We are only human.

healingqueen said: 

Canary said: 

When the conditions are shitty for the one who loves, then that's called unconditional love.

Does it conquer all ? Apparently not. If anything it'll make someone feel better about a bad situation.

On the bright side life as we know it is temporary. 

 

but eventually though  eventually in the human race and eventually in all of our personal soul evolutions  I would like to evolve into being more in those higher vibrations on a regular basis and the only practical way for me to do that is to keep experimenting with energy healing until I find the best solutions to healing a fragmented soul

 

 

 Go to God! Jesus saves!

LilPumpette said: 

Turncoat said: 

healingqueen said: 

it depends on how you use it,  it can be used as medicine and it is actually the most powerful medicine in my opinion

I tend to see too much of anything as a bad thing, and that Unconditional makes it mean less to the recipient. 

The ones who are hard to please feel like they mean more. 

 I think unconditional love is good and is more valuable than conditional love because unconditional love has the potential to heal, like that person said, but I’m talking about healing the person who finds it less valuable because it’s unconditional.

When someone loves everyone it becomes spread too thin, and then those looking for love will simply excuse that as "how they are with everybody". 

When someone feels unloved, they are geared to not trust even genuine displays of it. If someone has conditions for their love, isn't that just having standards? 

Here's a model.

Someone is being abused by someone they love.

The abused person loves the abuser unconditionally.

It is then better for the abused person, because they like being with the abuser.

But if the abused person never loved the abuser, then the abused person is more likely to shatter sooner than later.

Therefore, the abuser can slap a bitch silly to his satisfaction, while she'll happily take it, because love prevails, so unconditional love conquered this scenario and it turned out great for all parties.