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Why I'm Indifferent to Men and Women: A Manifesto
Both have an immense capacity for retardation and genius.
Both have an immense capacity for insidiousness and sincerity.
Both have an immense capacity for ugliness and beauty.
Essentialist Philosophy and Ideology that serve Men and damn Women, or serve Women and damn Men are equally faulty in their fragile epistemic and ontic foundations.
I feel like people who try to say the situation is equal are in enough of a privileged position to not really look at the big picture.
It's not about Capacity, it's about Culture.
Ę̵̚x̸͎̾i̴͚̽s̵̻͐t̷͐ͅe̷̯͠n̴̤̚t̵̻̅i̵͉̿a̴̮͊l̵͍̂ ̴̹̕D̵̤̀e̸͓͂t̵̢͂e̴͕̓c̸̗̄t̴̗̿ï̶̪v̷̲̍é̵͔
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turncoat you will never be a woman
As long as I don't fall into 'Traditional Masculinity' or anywhere adjacent to the Manosphere, then I'm doing the best I can.
Ę̵̚x̸͎̾i̴͚̽s̵̻͐t̷͐ͅe̷̯͠n̴̤̚t̵̻̅i̵͉̿a̴̮͊l̵͍̂ ̴̹̕D̵̤̀e̸͓͂t̵̢͂e̴͕̓c̸̗̄t̴̗̿ï̶̪v̷̲̍é̵͔
Why I'm Indifferent to Men and Women: A Manifesto
Both have an immense capacity for retardation and genius.
Both have an immense capacity for insidiousness and sincerity.
Both have an immense capacity for ugliness and beauty.
Essentialist Philosophy and Ideology that serve Men and damn Women, or serve Women and damn Men are equally faulty in their fragile epistemic and ontic foundations.
I feel like people who try to say the situation is equal are in enough of a privileged position to not really look at the big picture.
My statements are relational but that relation is not equality.
I don't think it is necessarily a matter of privilege but instead a matter of taking questions seriously. However, it may be the case that a privileged persons status, however we define it, may lead to them taking some questions seriously and others not so seriously. Imo if a question is valid, and you are to take up the question, it should be taken seriously.
It's not about Capacity, it's about Culture.
What is it that's not about capacity but instead culture?
Why I'm Indifferent to Men and Women: A Manifesto
Both have an immense capacity for retardation and genius.
Both have an immense capacity for insidiousness and sincerity.
Both have an immense capacity for ugliness and beauty.
Essentialist Philosophy and Ideology that serve Men and damn Women, or serve Women and damn Men are equally faulty in their fragile epistemic and ontic foundations.
I feel like people who try to say the situation is equal are in enough of a privileged position to not really look at the big picture.
My statements are relational but that relation is not equality.
I don't think it is necessarily a matter of privilege but instead a matter of taking questions seriously. However, it may be the case that a privileged persons status, however we define it, may lead to them taking some questions seriously and others not so seriously. Imo if a question is valid, and you are to take up the question, it should be taken seriously.
If both are equal in capacity, then why is one of them a second class citizen by societal standards?
It's not about Capacity, it's about Culture.What is it that's not about capacity but instead culture?
Learned helplessness being slowly undone for starters.
It's a lot of things, a lot, of things. While we show certain automatics based on natural advantages, all it would take is culture to reformat that through gregarious patterns and formative patterning. All of this could be fixed if we could isolate the next generation of people from older ones.
Ę̵̚x̸͎̾i̴͚̽s̵̻͐t̷͐ͅe̷̯͠n̴̤̚t̵̻̅i̵͉̿a̴̮͊l̵͍̂ ̴̹̕D̵̤̀e̸͓͂t̵̢͂e̴͕̓c̸̗̄t̴̗̿ï̶̪v̷̲̍é̵͔
?Learned helplessness being slowly undone for starters.
It's a lot of things, a lot, of things. While we show certain automatics based on natural advantages, all it would take is culture to reformat that through gregarious patterns and formative patterning. All of this could be fixed if we could isolate the next generation of people from older ones.
You mean isolate other people's children and groom them to be queer, and teach boys to be more like women ?
We've been through this Nathan. Emotionally weak men are dangerous.
?Learned helplessness being slowly undone for starters.
It's a lot of things, a lot, of things. While we show certain automatics based on natural advantages, all it would take is culture to reformat that through gregarious patterns and formative patterning. All of this could be fixed if we could isolate the next generation of people from older ones.You mean isolate other people's children and groom them to be queer, and teach boys to be more like women ?
Acceptance and tolerance is not outright grooming, that's culture.
The problem we have are those of old world values holding the next ones back, 'Sins of the Father' one might call it.
We've been through this Nathan. Emotionally weak men are dangerous.
Which is why they need to ascend the limitations of traditional masculinity and learn how to outlet that bottling. They need to learn how to speak the language of emotion rather than burying the thing.
Ę̵̚x̸͎̾i̴͚̽s̵̻͐t̷͐ͅe̷̯͠n̴̤̚t̵̻̅i̵͉̿a̴̮͊l̵͍̂ ̴̹̕D̵̤̀e̸͓͂t̵̢͂e̴͕̓c̸̗̄t̴̗̿ï̶̪v̷̲̍é̵͔
?Learned helplessness being slowly undone for starters.
It's a lot of things, a lot, of things. While we show certain automatics based on natural advantages, all it would take is culture to reformat that through gregarious patterns and formative patterning. All of this could be fixed if we could isolate the next generation of people from older ones.You mean isolate other people's children and groom them to be queer, and teach boys to be more like women ?
Acceptance and tolerance is not outright grooming, that's culture.
I'd say you're the one who lacks acceptance and tolerance. But why complain when they're confusing the genders from kindergarten all the way to University ?
The problem we have are those of old world values holding the next ones back, 'Sins of the Father' one might call it.
I'd argue modern sin is shrinking from controversy and allowing foolishness to take over. Like men dunking on women's sports, or male teachers dressing like sluts around horny young men.
See your logic is "If it feels good then just do it".
A generation of queerness will kill off our species. We'll drop like flies. To want it so bad is derangement.
We've been through this Nathan. Emotionally weak men are dangerous.
Which is why they need to ascend the limitations of traditional masculinity and learn how to outlet that bottling. They need to learn how to speak the language of emotion rather than burying the thing.
Well I'm afraid you won't be dictating what healthy straight women want. They don't want the girly man.
Plus a submissive woman is a happy one. When she's the complete opposite of submissive she'll be unhappy and cunty.
Why I'm Indifferent to Men and Women: A Manifesto
Both have an immense capacity for retardation and genius.
Both have an immense capacity for insidiousness and sincerity.
Both have an immense capacity for ugliness and beauty.
Essentialist Philosophy and Ideology that serve Men and damn Women, or serve Women and damn Men are equally faulty in their fragile epistemic and ontic foundations.
I feel like people who try to say the situation is equal are in enough of a privileged position to not really look at the big picture.
My statements are relational but that relation is not equality.
I don't think it is necessarily a matter of privilege but instead a matter of taking questions seriously. However, it may be the case that a privileged persons status, however we define it, may lead to them taking some questions seriously and others not so seriously. Imo if a question is valid, and you are to take up the question, it should be taken seriously.
If both are equal in capacity, then why is one of them a second class citizen by societal standards?
To be clear, I view these things as mappings - this capacity mapping is a equivalence relation and not a equality relation.
As to why one would occupy a second class citizenship I do not know. I don't even know if one does, depending on the context. That's a very hard question to answer. Though, given how dynamic culture and society is intuition tells me that its unlikely that either would have equal status and by that same logic equal status may be impossible.
What is it that's not about capacity but instead culture?
Learned helplessness being slowly undone for starters.
If a group occupied this status then they certainly have the capacity for that occupation. If it can be undone, then that group would have other capacities and which one they favor (regardless of its a learned favoring) is a matter of weighting. Your explanation for the weighting is cultural, which seems to be plausible even though i am not sure it is the only dependency.
It's a lot of things, a lot, of things. While we show certain automatics based on natural advantages, all it would take is culture to reformat that through gregarious patterns and formative patterning. All of this could be fixed if we could isolate the next generation of people from older ones.
What's being fixed?
Why I'm Indifferent to Men and Women: A Manifesto
Both have an immense capacity for retardation and genius.
Both have an immense capacity for insidiousness and sincerity.
Both have an immense capacity for ugliness and beauty.
Essentialist Philosophy and Ideology that serve Men and damn Women, or serve Women and damn Men are equally faulty in their fragile epistemic and ontic foundations.
I feel like people who try to say the situation is equal are in enough of a privileged position to not really look at the big picture.
My statements are relational but that relation is not equality.
I don't think it is necessarily a matter of privilege but instead a matter of taking questions seriously. However, it may be the case that a privileged persons status, however we define it, may lead to them taking some questions seriously and others not so seriously. Imo if a question is valid, and you are to take up the question, it should be taken seriously.
If both are equal in capacity, then why is one of them a second class citizen by societal standards?
To be clear, I view these things as mappings - this capacity mapping is a equivalence relation and not a equality relation.
As to why one would occupy a second class citizenship I do not know. I don't even know if one does, depending on the context. That's a very hard question to answer. Though, given how dynamic culture and society is intuition tells me that its unlikely that either would have equal status and by that same logic equal status may be impossible.
You'd need to look at history for patterns then, as why a lot of it is now being undone is over our room to subvert it, no differently from using medicine to attempt to cleanse a disease.
What is it that's not about capacity but instead culture?
Learned helplessness being slowly undone for starters.
If a group occupied this status then they certainly have the capacity for that occupation. If it can be undone, then that group would have other capacities and which one they favor (regardless of its a learned favoring) is a matter of weighting. Your explanation for the weighting is cultural, which seems to be plausible even though i am not sure it is the only dependency.
As a very basic example, lets take Physical Education and Sports programs in our school system into account.
Too many times have I seen and heard of girls in P.E. not being pushed to sport as hard, even dropping comments about "the differences". There's even studies showing how the majority of parents treat their baby differently for gentle vs rough housing depending on the gender, during a time where both are equally fragile. A lot of this is very deeply embedded, and those who subvert it tended to have been raised from a less traditional lifestyle from a combination of genes that supported a less canonical path.
It's a lot of things, a lot, of things. While we show certain automatics based on natural advantages, all it would take is culture to reformat that through gregarious patterns and formative patterning. All of this could be fixed if we could isolate the next generation of people from older ones.
What's being fixed?
Cultural standards that otherwise serve to create an arbitrary divide that holds everyone back.
Ę̵̚x̸͎̾i̴͚̽s̵̻͐t̷͐ͅe̷̯͠n̴̤̚t̵̻̅i̵͉̿a̴̮͊l̵͍̂ ̴̹̕D̵̤̀e̸͓͂t̵̢͂e̴͕̓c̸̗̄t̴̗̿ï̶̪v̷̲̍é̵͔