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The state of American home cooking


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In this topic, I will be discussing my own experiences and what I have witnessed. Everyone is encouraged to add their own experiences, especially members living outside of the US. I would love to know if this is a similar phenomenon elsewhere.

1. Magnolia Table -a collection of recipes for gathering-
~While we were gone~ Peachy has been going through a period of increased interest in interior design. Like the basic millennial I am, I fell into Joanna Gaine's trap. After I found a few good recipes in Magnolia Journal that we liked, Alice gifted me the Magnolia Table cookbook last year. (1) For context, the recipes in the Journal were real recipes; lists of ingredients with cooking instructions. They were what I expected from a recipe. Everything was interesting and kinda boujee too (shout out to caramelized pears with shallots and greyure 🤤)  I love that Alice got me Magnolia Table bc it was a wonderful sweet gift, but I find myself rarely using it due to the quality of the recipes inside. The book relies heavily on prepackaged ingredients.

Paradoxically, in the introduction to the book she describes the first meal she cooked for her husband- after rejecting the recipes  gifted to her by his family (bc she was scared to try something new) she made him pasta from a jar and he didn't like it. After a few more heartfelt paragraphs about adapting recipes to ways they both like and them having a bunch of kids, then she states "I really appreciate cookbooks that made things easy for a busy mom. Simple ingredients, minimal prep, time.... Life is busier these days and it can be hard to find the time to cook meals from scratch, but it's important enough to me to prioritize it." (2) The final paragraphs are more details about how she loves to cook from scratch, but she often cooks store-bought because it is more convenient.

The pages after this intro are recipes calling for "Jimmy Dean Sausage Patties", "shredded meat from 1 store-bought rotisserie chicken", and " Two 0.7 oz envelopes of Good Seasons dry Italian dressing mix"
   There is a "Mayonnaise recipe" that calls for blending salt and spices into a cup of Hellman's Mayonnaise. (Mayonnaise is only 3 ingredients and takes 3 minutes to make).

To be fair, many recipes in this book are from scratch, but the Dinners section is disappointingly a primary offender. In my opinion the best recipes happen to be  those with the stamp stating they are served at the public Magnolia restaurant on the ranch.

Final thoughts: I want to make it clear i don't think there is anything wrong with using prepackaged ingredients, and I don't think this is a bad cookbook. I think this is a useful tool for beginners, or busy families, but I do feel misled based on the recipes the brand publishes in the magazine compared to the recipes in the cookbook. I was expecting a book full of the types of bougie recipes that are printed every quarter in the journal. That said, I did make the chicken pot pie from the book. I used a cream of chicken recipe I found online instead of canned, but I did get a store-bought rotisserie chicken. It was good.

 

2. Church Recipies of the American South: Bacon, Butter, and Mayonnaise.

My grandma's church had everyone put their best recipes into a group cookbook, and grandma gave me a copy. Y'all. This book could be the sole piece of evidence in an investigation into the obesity epidemic. This cookbook is fucking cursed. These people do not know how to eat a vegetable without drowning it in fat. The first entry of the "Vegetable" section is "Stuffing" consisting of 2 celery stalks, 1 cup onion, 2 lbs pork sausage, and a half cup of butter. Other "vegetables" include macaroni and cheese, green beans cooked with bacon, asparagus with bacon, eggplant with a cup of butter and 3 cups of cheese... Its all like this.
The "Salad" section is WORSE. EVERY SINGLE ENTRY is filled with Mayonnaise. And I don't mean like chicken salad, tuna salad etc. "Tomato Olive salad: 1/3 tomatoes, olives, almonds, onion, and lettuce. 1/3 mayo, 1/3 cream cheese.

The amount of butter in these recipes is a crime. Cooking this way is abuse to your loved ones. There is nothing in this book Alice can eat without it showing up in her bloodwork. I haven't made anything from this book but I'm considering trying a casserole that seems borderline edible, but I just won't pour the half cup of melted butter over the top at the end.
Final Thoughts: people in the south are all enabling each other's obesity, and making it pretty impossible for those who may want to lose weight to do so, without alienating themselves at social food gatherings.

3. Few Ingredient Recipes- a Wonder Book find
This summer at Wonder book i found a cute little cookbook with a picture of a peach on the front. I got it mostly just for the aesthetic, it's a little book with 100 recipes that each take 5 or fewer ingredients. A lot of these recipes seem very "southern comfort food." Bacon wrapped chicken, country chicken with gravy, etc.

Not really a shock for a collection of recipes intended to have as few ingredients as possible, most of the recipes call for prepackaged ingredients. (Upon further inspection, the copyright at the bottom of each page seems to imply these recipes actually originated from the brands they are advertising. This is like somebody made a cookbook by collecting all their soup labels and food boxes for the bonus recipes on the back)
Final Thoughts: the front cover is pretty and this will maintain its current display space. I may make the honey lime chili chicken with a side of 12OZ. Can DEL MONTE shredded green beans.

Conclusion: Due to my own preferences, I aquire most of my recipes from the internet. The examples I've given above are what have come into my possession as an average person who cooks living in America. Most people are not taking the time to make good, wholesome food for their families and it shows. Big OOF. I want to see (and aquire) more books with details on lovingly preparing delicious, healthy, dishes from scratch.

 


Footnotes
1. Joanna Gaines is a trendy interior designer. Until recently she had a TV show on the DIY television network. She recently bought the network and renamed it Magnolia to fit into her brand. She owns a ranch in Waco Texas, which is the home central for her cult.
Magnolia Journal is a quarterly lifestyle/ design magazine under the Joanna Gaines/ Magnolia brand. Magnolia Table is the affiliated cookbook of the brand.

2. Magnolia Table Copywrite statement "No part of this book may be used or reproduced in any manner whatsoever... except in the case of brief quotations in critical articles or reviews"
This Topic post is a critical review.

Sc is pretty boring.
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2. Church Recipies of the American South: Bacon, Butter, and Mayonnaise. 

This kind of trend's pretty heavy on Youtube too: 



Having grown up in the California area before moving to the Midwest, I found the state of the cuisine to be a bit of whiplash. We're seeing some health trends trying to proliferate over the internet with services like Hello Fresh, but that isn't enough to fix the problem once people are addicted to the feelings of cream and sodium when done in binge form. We still have Farmer's Markets and a few stores that stock up on higher quality stuff, stuff that's real and filling immediately rather than inflated to take up more volume, but to get that you get stung in the wallet. 

An insidious health risk is actually in US bread, nowhere else that I've been has had this much sugar in bread while still calling it bread. As a sweets fiend I found bread to not give me "that fix" in a lot of other countries, especially Myanmar. Since I have begun trying to control my sugar intake so that my energy doesn't spike and crash as strongly I've seen bread become one of those struggles to try to work with. 

A lot of our food has filler in it, like Ice Cream Bars having Wood Fibers in it to make it not melt as quickly and pad the volume for better profits, and then there's how much of our food works with crystalized forms for additives. Having tried sodium and sugar that were not in rock-like forms while traveling I can report that they are pretty different. If you don't watch what you're buying even your components can be flooded in high volumes of other things. 

Conclusion: Due to my own preferences, I aquire most of my recipes from the internet.

One of the best things about the internet is how available millions of recipes are. You can convert them into shopping lists and then follow it step-by-step, even with video guides or food-prep gifs

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last edit on 12/29/2022 7:56:20 AM
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0 votes RE: The state of American home cooking

2. Church Recipies of the American South: Bacon, Butter, and Mayonnaise. 

This kind of trend's pretty heavy on Youtube too: 



You can see how big the person making this food is. It's like Epic Meal Time for every meal down there.

Having grown up in the California area before moving to the Midwest, I found the state of the cuisine to be a bit of whiplash. We're seeing some health trends trying to proliferate over the internet with services like Hello Fresh, but that isn't enough to fix the problem once people are addicted to the feelings of cream and sodium when done in binge form. We still have Farmer's Markets and a few stores that stock up on higher quality stuff, stuff that's real and filling immediately rather than inflated to take up more volume, but to get that you get stung in the wallet.

I think cost is a contributing threshold factor that keeps some types of people from ever trying to eat healthy. Then they get addicted to the cream and sodium and lose any desire to.

An insidious health risk is actually in US bread, nowhere else that I've been has had this much sugar in bread while still calling it bread. As a sweets fiend I found bread to not give me "that fix" in a lot of other countries, especially Myanmar. Since I have begun trying to control my sugar intake so that my energy doesn't spike and crash as strongly I've seen bread become one of those struggles to try to work with. 

The amount of sugar in bread is insane. It's basically cake.



A lot of our food has filler in it, like Ice Cream Bars having Wood Fibers in it to make it not melt as quickly and pad the volume for better profits, and then there's how much of our food works with crystalized forms for additives. Having tried sodium and sugar that were not in rock-like forms while traveling I can report that they are pretty different. If you don't watch what you're buying even your components can be flooded in high volumes of other things. 

Conclusion: Due to my own preferences, I aquire most of my recipes from the internet.

One of the best things about the internet is how available millions of recipes are. You can convert them into shopping lists and then follow it step-by-step, even with video guides or food-prep gifs

 How can we get this technology to the butter lovers T-T

 

Sc is pretty boring.
Posts: 33414
0 votes RE: The state of American home cooking

2. Church Recipies of the American South: Bacon, Butter, and Mayonnaise. 

This kind of trend's pretty heavy on Youtube too: 

You can see how big the person making this food is. It's like Epic Meal Time for every meal down there.

Epic Meantime at least was a group of exercise nutjobs who spent every moment outside of that day working it off. That's how people like Muscles Glasses remained fit in spite of how insanely deadly this food should be. 

Mayo Blender people are on their own tier, they don't see the problem somehow. 

Having grown up in the California area before moving to the Midwest, I found the state of the cuisine to be a bit of whiplash. We're seeing some health trends trying to proliferate over the internet with services like Hello Fresh, but that isn't enough to fix the problem once people are addicted to the feelings of cream and sodium when done in binge form. We still have Farmer's Markets and a few stores that stock up on higher quality stuff, stuff that's real and filling immediately rather than inflated to take up more volume, but to get that you get stung in the wallet.

I think cost is a contributing threshold factor that keeps some types of people from ever trying to eat healthy. Then they get addicted to the cream and sodium and lose any desire to.

Fast Food prices when compared to the Veggie Isle... there aren't many other places in the world where prices work out this way. 

An insidious health risk is actually in US bread, nowhere else that I've been has had this much sugar in bread while still calling it bread. As a sweets fiend I found bread to not give me "that fix" in a lot of other countries, especially Myanmar. Since I have begun trying to control my sugar intake so that my energy doesn't spike and crash as strongly I've seen bread become one of those struggles to try to work with. 

The amount of sugar in bread is insane. It's basically cake.

The amount of sugar in Subway's dough is deemed Cake by Ireland standards, legally. 

 

How can we get this technology to the butter lovers T-T

How do you make an alcoholic stop drinking? 

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2. Church Recipies of the American South: Bacon, Butter, and Mayonnaise. 

This kind of trend's pretty heavy on Youtube too: 

You can see how big the person making this food is. It's like Epic Meal Time for every meal down there.

Epic Meantime at least was a group of exercise nutjobs who spent every moment outside of that day working it off. That's how people like Muscles Glasses remained fit in spite of how insanely deadly this food should be. 

Mayo Blender people are on their own tier, they don't see the problem somehow. 

it's A tHyRoId iSsUe 🐓

 

Having grown up in the California area before moving to the Midwest, I found the state of the cuisine to be a bit of whiplash. We're seeing some health trends trying to proliferate over the internet with services like Hello Fresh, but that isn't enough to fix the problem once people are addicted to the feelings of cream and sodium when done in binge form. We still have Farmer's Markets and a few stores that stock up on higher quality stuff, stuff that's real and filling immediately rather than inflated to take up more volume, but to get that you get stung in the wallet.

I think cost is a contributing threshold factor that keeps some types of people from ever trying to eat healthy. Then they get addicted to the cream and sodium and lose any desire to.

Fast Food prices when compared to the Veggie Isle... there aren't many other places in the world where prices work out this way. 

Then you have to think about what kinds of preservatives and chemicals even make this possible. A McDonald's burger left untouched at room temperature for 6 fucking months is almost identical to a "fresh" made one.

 

An insidious health risk is actually in US bread, nowhere else that I've been has had this much sugar in bread while still calling it bread. As a sweets fiend I found bread to not give me "that fix" in a lot of other countries, especially Myanmar. Since I have begun trying to control my sugar intake so that my energy doesn't spike and crash as strongly I've seen bread become one of those struggles to try to work with. 

The amount of sugar in bread is insane. It's basically cake.

The amount of sugar in Subway's dough is deemed Cake by Ireland standards, legally. 

Makes sense to me.

How can we get this technology to the butter lovers T-T

How do you make an alcoholic stop drinking? 

 Step 1 is admitting there is a problem. Actually, treating obesity as a major addiction issue maybe a good approach.

Sc is pretty boring.
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This is sad

 

professional retard :)
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The Mexican rice referenced is cooked in 1 can chicken broth and 1 can diced tomatoes. Its just... disappointing. Disclaimer: This is a critic.

Sc is pretty boring.
last edit on 12/29/2022 10:05:49 PM
Posts: 33414
0 votes RE: The state of American home cooking

2. Church Recipies of the American South: Bacon, Butter, and Mayonnaise. 

This kind of trend's pretty heavy on Youtube too: 

You can see how big the person making this food is. It's like Epic Meal Time for every meal down there.

Epic Meantime at least was a group of exercise nutjobs who spent every moment outside of that day working it off. That's how people like Muscles Glasses remained fit in spite of how insanely deadly this food should be. 

Mayo Blender people are on their own tier, they don't see the problem somehow. 

it's A tHyRoId iSsUe 🐓

I have legitimately seen people with that problem... it looks fundamentally different from food addiction (and Mukbang). 

Thyroid issues living a healthy lifestyle tend to have smaller faces than how squishy the deep enders go, but still tend to show as somewhat chubby even when minding their health, even with a lifestyle that supports movement like playing soccer multiple times a week. 

A lot of bloating can happen from too much salt and sugar, often lending to Soda being a big culprit. 

Having grown up in the California area before moving to the Midwest, I found the state of the cuisine to be a bit of whiplash. We're seeing some health trends trying to proliferate over the internet with services like Hello Fresh, but that isn't enough to fix the problem once people are addicted to the feelings of cream and sodium when done in binge form. We still have Farmer's Markets and a few stores that stock up on higher quality stuff, stuff that's real and filling immediately rather than inflated to take up more volume, but to get that you get stung in the wallet.

I think cost is a contributing threshold factor that keeps some types of people from ever trying to eat healthy. Then they get addicted to the cream and sodium and lose any desire to.

Fast Food prices when compared to the Veggie Isle... there aren't many other places in the world where prices work out this way. 

Then you have to think about what kinds of preservatives and chemicals even make this possible. A McDonald's burger left untouched at room temperature for 6 fucking months is almost identical to a "fresh" made one.

It's also a supply and demand issue, we structurally have an abundance of meat here from when we'd moved onto Factory Farming that other places never (to my knowledge) attempted to emulate to the same degree. The biggest culprit of what's keeping McDonald food alive is over how supercharged it is with Sodium, it dries out all the moisture as it ages until you have a dehydrated meat-disc that's nearly as preserved as Jerky. 

For fruits and vegetables by comparison many are ordered from other countries or grown specially. From the Meatitarian Mindset backed up by our FDA's fucked up practices in the combination of Melted Cream, Sugar, and Salt when it comes to purposeful food addictions that are legally accepted, even modeled after to the point of poison in places like Saudi Arabia as a second wave expansion with no calories listed and their people not understanding to the same degree of exposure what the food is doing to them, we see this practice has flipped prices and created a consistent market. It's the same problem stylistically that you see when people pick Soda over Juice over Water, the production and demand play a big part in how much is purchased and what kinds of prices they can get away with while also cultivating patterns in the market (such as the Morning Rush). 

It's insane how much food gets thrown out in the US based purely on how automation is outdoing the demand people have for the product. 

 

How can we get this technology to the butter lovers T-T

How do you make an alcoholic stop drinking? 

 Step 1 is admitting there is a problem. Actually, treating obesity as a major addiction issue maybe a good approach.

It IS addiction, if it weren't you'd see them binging with much more diversity. Give them fat free alternatives with low sodium and reduced sugar and watch what happens. 

The effects of Dairy on people in general is a little creepy, especially when paired with the sugar in tomato sauce when semi-caramelized and given heat. 

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last edit on 12/30/2022 1:40:15 AM
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My favourite inherited item.

Grandma's old cook book

 

One of these days Imma tryta skin and cook a rabbit.

There are instructions in Grandma's version  :)

Rabbits are the best apocalypse food.

Cheap to feed and raise.

Tasty and versatile, with beautiful warm cozy fur  <3

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The effects of Dairy on people in general is a little creepy, especially when paired with the sugar in tomato sauce when semi-caramelized and given heat. 

 As someone who is lactose intolerant, but also addicted to cheese i can believe dairy is addictive.

Sc is pretty boring.
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