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Xena said: 

Feminist men can breathe through their ears.

They're also happy to cook, clean, and take care of kids.

So tell me again why I should want a domineering shitbag who treats me like a kitchen whore while denying that the world has a serious problem with allowing me to showcase my intellectual and musical talents?

Tell me again why the answer I get when I mention that I've fallen on hard times and will have to stretch the last of my oatmeal and protein shakes over the Xmas holiday, eating nothing else until the soup kitchens are open again...

Tell me again why the answer ppl keep giving me to that problem is "you could get an onlyfans if you're pretty."

It was even worse before e sex was a thing. People used to tell me I could make lots of money on Pembroke St. Or they'd say "find a nice guy to take care of you." Just ew. So I'm expected to fuck for a sandwich, now. Just gross. 

I'd rather starve.

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^ You see that Legga. 

She wants a feminist man who'll cook and clean AND provide, while she does nothing. 

No dude, she's saying that she doesn't want to/

 

 /In the spirit of this thread, I will take the words of a female, and as you don't seem to understand, she's capable of conveying her message, while I, understsnd it.

I don't think you actually understand, nor do I think it's within your capacity to. 

 Just because "you don't think" I understand you schizomoron, doesn't give you the right to step in and steal the woman's glory and speak for her. That's counter productive.

The woman will have "her" say.

Okay at this point you're straight up demonizing the logic as being disordered, there is no hope of educating you. 

 Whatever.

No one here is complaining if Xena or any woman wants to WGTOW. That's a fact. 

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Xena said: 

Feminist men can breathe through their ears.

They're also happy to cook, clean, and take care of kids.

So tell me again why I should want a domineering shitbag who treats me like a kitchen whore while denying that the world has a serious problem with allowing me to showcase my intellectual and musical talents?

Tell me again why the answer I get when I mention that I've fallen on hard times and will have to stretch the last of my oatmeal and protein shakes over the Xmas holiday, eating nothing else until the soup kitchens are open again...

Tell me again why the answer ppl keep giving me to that problem is "you could get an onlyfans if you're pretty."

It was even worse before e sex was a thing. People used to tell me I could make lots of money on Pembroke St. Or they'd say "find a nice guy to take care of you." Just ew. So I'm expected to fuck for a sandwich, now. Just gross. 

I'd rather starve.

 .

.

.

^ You see that Legga. 

She wants a feminist man who'll cook and clean AND provide, while she does nothing. 

No dude, she's saying that she doesn't want to/

 

 /In the spirit of this thread, I will take the words of a female, and as you don't seem to understand, she's capable of conveying her message, while I, understsnd it.

I don't think you actually understand, nor do I think it's within your capacity to. 

 Just because "you don't think" I understand you schizomoron, doesn't give you the right to step in and steal the woman's glory and speak for her. That's counter productive.

The woman will have "her" say.

Okay at this point you're straight up demonizing the logic as being disordered, there is no hope of educating you. 

 Whatever.

No one here is complaining if Xena or any woman wants to WGTOW. That's a fact. 

Do you understand why she would want to though? 

No, you don't. 

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Xena said: 

Feminist men can breathe through their ears.

They're also happy to cook, clean, and take care of kids.

So tell me again why I should want a domineering shitbag who treats me like a kitchen whore while denying that the world has a serious problem with allowing me to showcase my intellectual and musical talents?

Tell me again why the answer I get when I mention that I've fallen on hard times and will have to stretch the last of my oatmeal and protein shakes over the Xmas holiday, eating nothing else until the soup kitchens are open again...

Tell me again why the answer ppl keep giving me to that problem is "you could get an onlyfans if you're pretty."

It was even worse before e sex was a thing. People used to tell me I could make lots of money on Pembroke St. Or they'd say "find a nice guy to take care of you." Just ew. So I'm expected to fuck for a sandwich, now. Just gross. 

I'd rather starve.

 .

.

.

^ You see that Legga. 

She wants a feminist man who'll cook and clean AND provide, while she does nothing. 

No dude, she's saying that she doesn't want to/

 

 /In the spirit of this thread, I will take the words of a female, and as you don't seem to understand, she's capable of conveying her message, while I, understsnd it.

I don't think you actually understand, nor do I think it's within your capacity to. 

 Just because "you don't think" I understand you schizomoron, doesn't give you the right to step in and steal the woman's glory and speak for her. That's counter productive.

The woman will have "her" say.

Okay at this point you're straight up demonizing the logic as being disordered, there is no hope of educating you. 

 Whatever.

No one here is complaining if Xena or any woman wants to WGTOW. That's a fact. 

Do you understand why she would want to though? 

No, you don't. 

 You're assuming I don't understand what she wrote.

She doesn't have to have sex with men, and men aren't to be blamed if she isn't recognized for her music. I for one never knew she made music.

It's not the ones who aren't interested in us that matter when it comes to our relationships man.

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Xena said: 

Feminist men can breathe through their ears.

They're also happy to cook, clean, and take care of kids.

So tell me again why I should want a domineering shitbag who treats me like a kitchen whore while denying that the world has a serious problem with allowing me to showcase my intellectual and musical talents?

Tell me again why the answer I get when I mention that I've fallen on hard times and will have to stretch the last of my oatmeal and protein shakes over the Xmas holiday, eating nothing else until the soup kitchens are open again...

Tell me again why the answer ppl keep giving me to that problem is "you could get an onlyfans if you're pretty."

It was even worse before e sex was a thing. People used to tell me I could make lots of money on Pembroke St. Or they'd say "find a nice guy to take care of you." Just ew. So I'm expected to fuck for a sandwich, now. Just gross. 

I'd rather starve.

 .

.

.

^ You see that Legga. 

She wants a feminist man who'll cook and clean AND provide, while she does nothing. 

No dude, she's saying that she doesn't want to/

 

 /In the spirit of this thread, I will take the words of a female, and as you don't seem to understand, she's capable of conveying her message, while I, understsnd it.

I don't think you actually understand, nor do I think it's within your capacity to. 

 Just because "you don't think" I understand you schizomoron, doesn't give you the right to step in and steal the woman's glory and speak for her. That's counter productive.

The woman will have "her" say.

Okay at this point you're straight up demonizing the logic as being disordered, there is no hope of educating you. 

 Whatever.

No one here is complaining if Xena or any woman wants to WGTOW. That's a fact. 

Do you understand why she would want to though? 

No, you don't. 

You're assuming I don't understand what she wrote.

She doesn't have to have sex with men, and men aren't to be blamed if she isn't recognized for her music. I for one never knew she made music.

It's not the ones who aren't interested in us that matter when it comes to our relationships man.

...and now you're completely off point. 

Whatever then. 

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How am I off point ?

Xena said she doesn't like penises, and she'd rather be recognized for her music. 

Am I supposed to say something politically correct TC ?

I think I understand dude.

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Feminism is a highly varied phenomena consisting of a wide range of socio-political and philosophical movements. I struggle to say being a Feminist or prompting Feminism is to believe in or promote equality of the sexes for three reasons: (1) what equality of the sexes means is unclear and highly debatable, this is apparent when reading the varied feminist literature given both ideological and philosophical feminists cannot agree on its meaning, (2) there are forms of feminism, both ideological and philosophical, that do not believe in equality on the bases of sex or gender, (3) there are philosophies and ideologies that promote equality of the sexes yet are not feminist in nature. 

It can be argued of course that what most reasonable people believe is that feminism is purely about promoting equality between the sexes and that all else belongs to fringe unimpactful groups. However, it must be noted that the majority of people interact with feminism and its broader ideas in highly rhetorical ways via varying forms of media, and underlying those interactions are ideological and philosophical baggage. The latter argument suggests that the entire intellectual history of feminism is null and void, having no impact on the beliefs of the general population surrounding the very ideas those varied schools and movements developed. Both seem highly unlikely given after studying feminism broadly, even just a bit, will allow you to point out where different beliefs are derived from in general conversation about the topic 

It's hard to define the actual golden thread that binds all feminism and it may be argued that there isn't one in actuality. To me feminism generally seems to be a set of philosophical and ideological movements that emphasize sex and gender in various ways. What they emphasize about sex and gender socially, politically, ontically, and epistemically varies substantially. 

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while Alice, I don't believe I'll ever see hear or speak to. Technically speaking she doesn't physically exist to me.

 I appreciate this. 

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Feminism doesn't need men nor should it center men. You identify the patriarchy as being the reason women are oppressed and yet you include your oppressors in your movement? Is ridiculous is it not? We water down the movement in order to center misogynistic men who don't care about women's issues and are the cause of women's issues.

"Feminism is the equality of the sexes" it should not be. Men subject other men to the toxic standard for male behavior. If they are they are the oppressor why would they want to be apart of a movement that seeks to unseat them? Why would the billionaire want to be on the same level as those in poverty? They would not benefit from losing their power and privilege. They own land and wealth and political power, why would they give that up to be equals? Men should be killed. Starting with those that long for the days they could marry a child or hit a woman for speaking out of turn. 

 

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In short men do not deserve the chance, the empathy or anything else. They deserve only to be lined up against the wall. 

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Lenalee said: 

Feminism doesn't need men nor should it center men. You identify the patriarchy as being the reason women are oppressed and yet you include your oppressors in your movement? Is ridiculous is it not? We water down the movement in order to center misogynistic men who don't care about women's issues and are the cause of women's issues.

"Feminism is the equality of the sexes" it should not be. Men subject other men to the toxic standard for male behavior. If they are they are the oppressor why would they want to be apart of a movement that seeks to unseat them? Why would the billionaire want to be on the same level as those in poverty? They would not benefit from losing their power and privilege. They own land and wealth and political power, why would they give that up to be equals? Men should be killed. Starting with those that long for the days they could marry a child or hit a woman for speaking out of turn. 

 

 A radical feminist who, given your comments about broader gender theory, stops just prior to Firestone. 

 Quite traditional by contemporary standards. 

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Call me crazy but I've yet to see a man complain while his woman cooks and cleans as he's bringing home the bacon.

Nothing wrong with that.

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