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0 votes RE: Aubrieta you lost your faith?
Chapo said: 
Turncoat said:
Just saying, good people tend to think they need to do more, while those who feel the need to defend that they are 'good enough' are defensively making excuses to not be a better person, typically.

This is not really my experience. I think it's the opposite. Usually people who believe they are bad people actually are bad people.

They tend to not be bad, but rather stricken with guilt. Guilt is quite the motivator compared to patting one's self on the back. 

By comparison your average layman will have every reason to defend that they are 'good enough' through relative comparisons and inflated examples, omitting things they've done if they're not otherwise outright unable to notice. 

I don't think I'm a good person. Would you say that I actually am a good person?

Considering your older message, I'd say you are saying you are not a good person to serve an end, and could easily argue that you are good when it suits you. That being said there are those who accept being a 'bad person' to try to stop the currently relevant nagging voice. 

Beyond that this is more of a point on perceived averages, as both have reason to otherwise indulge in themselves in a way that contrasts the actions they are liable to find themselves doing. If they think they are bad, they have more reason to try to do better typically, while if they think they are good then they tend to not see any reason to change what they are doing. 

 I hope a guillotine falls on your genitals.

I don't need you imagining my genitals dude, quit being gay. 😉

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0 votes RE: Aubrieta you lost your faith?
Chapo said: 
Turncoat said:
Just saying, good people tend to think they need to do more, while those who feel the need to defend that they are 'good enough' are defensively making excuses to not be a better person, typically.

This is not really my experience. I think it's the opposite. Usually people who believe they are bad people actually are bad people.

They tend to not be bad, but rather stricken with guilt. Guilt is quite the motivator compared to patting one's self on the back. 

By comparison your average layman will have every reason to defend that they are 'good enough' through relative comparisons and inflated examples, omitting things they've done if they're not otherwise outright unable to notice. 

I don't think I'm a good person. Would you say that I actually am a good person?

Considering your older message, I'd say you are saying you are not a good person to serve an end, and could easily argue that you are good when it suits you. That being said there are those who accept being a 'bad person' to try to stop the currently relevant nagging voice. 

Beyond that this is more of a point on perceived averages, as both have reason to otherwise indulge in themselves in a way that contrasts the actions they are liable to find themselves doing. If they think they are bad, they have more reason to try to do better typically, while if they think they are good then they tend to not see any reason to change what they are doing. 

 I hope a guillotine falls on your genitals.

I don't need you imagining my genitals dude, quit being gay. 😉

 Cut your dick off and feed it to a dog so it has a purpose again.

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0 votes RE: Aubrieta you lost your faith?
Chapo said: 
Chapo said: 
Turncoat said:
Just saying, good people tend to think they need to do more, while those who feel the need to defend that they are 'good enough' are defensively making excuses to not be a better person, typically.

This is not really my experience. I think it's the opposite. Usually people who believe they are bad people actually are bad people.

They tend to not be bad, but rather stricken with guilt. Guilt is quite the motivator compared to patting one's self on the back. 

By comparison your average layman will have every reason to defend that they are 'good enough' through relative comparisons and inflated examples, omitting things they've done if they're not otherwise outright unable to notice. 

I don't think I'm a good person. Would you say that I actually am a good person?

Considering your older message, I'd say you are saying you are not a good person to serve an end, and could easily argue that you are good when it suits you. That being said there are those who accept being a 'bad person' to try to stop the currently relevant nagging voice. 

Beyond that this is more of a point on perceived averages, as both have reason to otherwise indulge in themselves in a way that contrasts the actions they are liable to find themselves doing. If they think they are bad, they have more reason to try to do better typically, while if they think they are good then they tend to not see any reason to change what they are doing. 

 I hope a guillotine falls on your genitals.

I don't need you imagining my genitals dude, quit being gay. 😉

 Cut your dick off and feed it to a dog so it has a purpose again.

You and dicks man I swear. 

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0 votes RE: Aubrieta you lost your faith?
Chapo said: 
Chapo said: 
Turncoat said:
Just saying, good people tend to think they need to do more, while those who feel the need to defend that they are 'good enough' are defensively making excuses to not be a better person, typically.

This is not really my experience. I think it's the opposite. Usually people who believe they are bad people actually are bad people.

They tend to not be bad, but rather stricken with guilt. Guilt is quite the motivator compared to patting one's self on the back. 

By comparison your average layman will have every reason to defend that they are 'good enough' through relative comparisons and inflated examples, omitting things they've done if they're not otherwise outright unable to notice. 

I don't think I'm a good person. Would you say that I actually am a good person?

Considering your older message, I'd say you are saying you are not a good person to serve an end, and could easily argue that you are good when it suits you. That being said there are those who accept being a 'bad person' to try to stop the currently relevant nagging voice. 

Beyond that this is more of a point on perceived averages, as both have reason to otherwise indulge in themselves in a way that contrasts the actions they are liable to find themselves doing. If they think they are bad, they have more reason to try to do better typically, while if they think they are good then they tend to not see any reason to change what they are doing. 

 I hope a guillotine falls on your genitals.

I don't need you imagining my genitals dude, quit being gay. 😉

 Cut your dick off and feed it to a dog so it has a purpose again.

You and dicks man I swear. 

 Get kicked in the balls faggot.

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0 votes RE: Aubrieta you lost your faith?
Chapo said: 
Chapo said: 
Chapo said: 
Turncoat said:
Just saying, good people tend to think they need to do more, while those who feel the need to defend that they are 'good enough' are defensively making excuses to not be a better person, typically.

This is not really my experience. I think it's the opposite. Usually people who believe they are bad people actually are bad people.

They tend to not be bad, but rather stricken with guilt. Guilt is quite the motivator compared to patting one's self on the back. 

By comparison your average layman will have every reason to defend that they are 'good enough' through relative comparisons and inflated examples, omitting things they've done if they're not otherwise outright unable to notice. 

I don't think I'm a good person. Would you say that I actually am a good person?

Considering your older message, I'd say you are saying you are not a good person to serve an end, and could easily argue that you are good when it suits you. That being said there are those who accept being a 'bad person' to try to stop the currently relevant nagging voice. 

Beyond that this is more of a point on perceived averages, as both have reason to otherwise indulge in themselves in a way that contrasts the actions they are liable to find themselves doing. If they think they are bad, they have more reason to try to do better typically, while if they think they are good then they tend to not see any reason to change what they are doing. 

 I hope a guillotine falls on your genitals.

I don't need you imagining my genitals dude, quit being gay. 😉

 Cut your dick off and feed it to a dog so it has a purpose again.

You and dicks man I swear. 

 Get kicked in the balls faggot.

You'd like that wouldn't you? 

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0 votes RE: Aubrieta you lost your faith?

Turncoat said: 
They tend to not be bad, but rather stricken with guilt. Guilt is quite the motivator compared to patting one's self on the back. 

By comparison your average layman will have every reason to defend that they are 'good enough' through relative comparisons and inflated examples, omitting things they've done if they're not otherwise outright unable to notice.

We now have two opposing hypotheses. According to the scientific process, we should now find evidence to support each hypothesis or to find conflicting evidence to rule one out. However, I don't see any evidence that either of us can put forth beyond personal testimony. Our experiences are different. Therefore, shall we spend a few days thinking about what each of us have said very deeply and then decide if we're right?

Considering your older message, I'd say you are saying you are not a good person to serve an end, and could easily argue that you are good when it suits you.

I'd argue that you're a bad person and quite childish. But so am I. Why is it that we aren't friends again? Is it because I'm a hypocrite?

That being said there are those who accept being a 'bad person'

Yes.

Beyond that this is more of a point on perceived averages, as both have reason to otherwise indulge in themselves in a way that contrasts the actions they are liable to find themselves doing. If they think they are bad, they have more reason to try to do better typically, while if they think they are good then they tend to not see any reason to change what they are doing.

Yes but I could just as well say "If you think you are bad at math, are you actually good at math because you recognize you can improve?"

I mean you could really spin this around in whichever way. Without some sort of concrete evidence we're just going to run in circles. Shall we meditate on this, instead?

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