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-1 votes RE: Aubrieta you lost your faith?

aaaaaand regardless of what Turncoat says I still hold to my same opinions about myself

Those who know do not speak, those who speak do not know. 🤭

Just saying, good people tend to think they need to do more, while those who feel the need to defend that they are 'good enough' are defensively making excuses to not be a better person, typically. 

The most good comes from people who think they need to work that hard. 

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wrong,  but it makes sense that someone like you would not understand what genuine goodness is 

 

 

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I am curious abiut your Lutheran upbringing influencing you to not take the bible literally,  can you explain some if that ?  like if it is all figurative to you,  then why even believe in the God of Christianity at all I am confused

What's so weird about seeing it as a collection of stories and fables rather than literal accounts? 

Lutherans are pretty split depending on where they learned it for how literally they treat the scriptures. Conservative types among them tend to be the ones who take it more literally. 

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last edit on 9/17/2022 4:19:58 PM
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0 votes RE: Aubrieta you lost your faith?

wrong,  but it makes sense that someone like you would not understand what genuine goodness is 

Can you describe it for me then? 

Is it something goofy about manifesting, rather than results? 

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0 votes RE: Aubrieta you lost your faith?

I am curious abiut your Lutheran upbringing influencing you to not take the bible literally,  can you explain some if that ?  like if it is all figurative to you,  then why even believe in the God of Christianity at all I am confused

 

 

 

for Legga to answer,  and not some looney bin who follows and stalks me around the forum

 

 

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I am more of a "good person" than most people these days

So you aren't even saying you're "Good" then, just "Better"? 

I'm starting to think you don't even know what good is. 

Ę̵̚x̸͎̾i̴͚̽s̵̻͐t̷͐ͅe̷̯͠n̴̤̚t̵̻̅i̵͉̿a̴̮͊l̵͍̂ ̴̹̕D̵̤̀e̸͓͂t̵̢͂e̴͕̓c̸̗̄t̴̗̿ï̶̪v̷̲̍é̵͔
last edit on 9/17/2022 4:26:26 PM
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I am curious abiut your Lutheran upbringing influencing you to not take the bible literally,  can you explain some if that ?  like if it is all figurative to you,  then why even believe in the God of Christianity at all I am confused

for Legga to answer,  and not some looney bin who follows and stalks me around the forum

Bruh, not all Lutherans take the Bible nonliterally though, I went through some Lutheran upbringing too it's pretty varied. It isn't what influenced that, at least not on it's own. It's more likely that his upbringing itself is where that comes from rather than the Lutheran label. 

I can't believe I scare you this much now, it's kind of sad. I don't even cast dark magic or anything, I just give a differing view. Your defenses must be pretty fragile if even this is too much, and for that I pity your situation. 

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last edit on 9/17/2022 4:29:04 PM
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what ?  you are asking questions that seem like you interpreted what I wrote in like the opposite way of what what communicated,  no I am not a Christian anymore and yes I have people to talk to about this stuff with besides on here  I believe in God and an afterlife,  but not the Judaic or christian versions of God

Oh I see. I thought you meant you are still Christian when you said you still believe in God.

What version of God do you believe in now? Do you talk to God?

also I said that not wanting to corrupt good people thing out of a borderline pd moment  (people who struggle with borderline pd tend to blame themselves for a lot of stuff that goes wrong in life that is not actually their fault),  I think that I am much more of a "good person" than most people these days

Good to hear. I think you are, although you did some weird stuff in the past. I'm definitely not a good person.

I am curious abiut your Lutheran upbringing influencing you to not take the bible literally, can you explain some if that ? like if it is all figurative to you, then why even believe in the God of Christianity at all I am confused

Because I was told that God of Christianity is true. I basically pick and choose what to believe from the bible literally and figuratively. I believe God influences me on a deeply personal level and my conscience allows me to make up my own mind. It's like the God's code was written on my heart. I think the Bible was inspired by God, but not written by God. 

...But I'm not so sure if I believe in a God anymore. I don't know. Sometimes I look around the world and feel like God's not really around. I'd like to think He's guided me throughout my life and I occasionally experience miracles in my life so I think He exists.

The core of Lutheran teaching is that the Bible was inspired by God.

Turncoat said:
Just saying, good people tend to think they need to do more, while those who feel the need to defend that they are 'good enough' are defensively making excuses to not be a better person, typically.

This is not really my experience. I think it's the opposite. Usually people who believe they are bad people actually are bad people.

I don't think I'm a good person. Would you say that I actually am a good person?

last edit on 9/21/2022 2:25:39 AM
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Turncoat said:
Just saying, good people tend to think they need to do more, while those who feel the need to defend that they are 'good enough' are defensively making excuses to not be a better person, typically.

This is not really my experience. I think it's the opposite. Usually people who believe they are bad people actually are bad people.

They tend to not be bad, but rather stricken with guilt. Guilt is quite the motivator compared to patting one's self on the back. 

By comparison your average layman will have every reason to defend that they are 'good enough' through relative comparisons and inflated examples, omitting things they've done if they're not otherwise outright unable to notice. 

I don't think I'm a good person. Would you say that I actually am a good person?

Considering your older message, I'd say you are saying you are not a good person to serve an end, and could easily argue that you are good when it suits you. That being said there are those who accept being a 'bad person' to try to stop the currently relevant nagging voice. 

Beyond that this is more of a point on perceived averages, as both have reason to otherwise indulge in themselves in a way that contrasts the actions they are liable to find themselves doing. If they think they are bad, they have more reason to try to do better typically, while if they think they are good then they tend to not see any reason to change what they are doing. 

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last edit on 9/21/2022 2:52:32 AM
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Turncoat said:
Just saying, good people tend to think they need to do more, while those who feel the need to defend that they are 'good enough' are defensively making excuses to not be a better person, typically.

This is not really my experience. I think it's the opposite. Usually people who believe they are bad people actually are bad people.

They tend to not be bad, but rather stricken with guilt. Guilt is quite the motivator compared to patting one's self on the back. 

By comparison your average layman will have every reason to defend that they are 'good enough' through relative comparisons and inflated examples, omitting things they've done if they're not otherwise outright unable to notice. 

I don't think I'm a good person. Would you say that I actually am a good person?

Considering your older message, I'd say you are saying you are not a good person to serve an end, and could easily argue that you are good when it suits you. That being said there are those who accept being a 'bad person' to try to stop the currently relevant nagging voice. 

Beyond that this is more of a point on perceived averages, as both have reason to otherwise indulge in themselves in a way that contrasts the actions they are liable to find themselves doing. If they think they are bad, they have more reason to try to do better typically, while if they think they are good then they tend to not see any reason to change what they are doing. 

 I hope a guillotine falls on your genitals.

last edit on 9/21/2022 2:53:44 AM
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