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1 votes RE: Free Will, Predestination, and God
LiYang said: 
LiYang said: 

Yeah, why the mystery?

If I were God and I made a place like Earth I would make it a happy place. After all, I'm all powerful. A God that make a shitty place full of sickness, killing, death, disease and pain is kinda a failure. Which is a contradiction.

This contradiction alone is suspicious.

 The danger in discussing God is always to anthropomorphize him/her/it.  The disease isn't a failure.  Maybe humans are for not figuring out how to survive it or live better despite it.  God made the disease as he made anything else.  How will you figure evolution?

And God-As-Mystery is more complex than simply being dispelled by saying "hello".  There is the incomprehensibility of absolutism and infinity just inherent in our natures, among so much more.  It's more complex than you make it.

Danger?

I don't see this as complex. The fact that God is hidden in darkness is suspicious. All things good and true are exposed in light not hidden in mystery and darkness, the contradiction is obvious.

 

 Mystery isn't bad.  It just means you don't understand.  Perhaps your comprehension simply cannot encompass infinity yet.

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0 votes RE: Free Will, Predestination, and God

copy paste of what i wrote for my husband "god is the greatest work of art created by his own self and will, noah. despite the outside of our undertanding of reality, he bends that fabric to create art, the art of everything, and of himself. god is the glorious creature we try to contain as human, but is in fact the light of loe that we all know and understand deep down. god is inside you. god is inside all of us, because god is love and love is god. love is the one thing that defies all, as is god. true, real love defies all. this world was created to show how powerful god is, how powerful lvoe is, to give us the comfort that even in this world in the face of difficulty- love, as well as god, still prevales in all. all of this, this entire design, was created, just to show us a truth- the truth that love despite animals natural instinct, despite our "natural animal selves", despite this world, and harship, and suffering, and not knowing- that love always prevails, thats what we must prevail. because despite all things we WE can show
that in our relationship, through ourselves, we can serve god, honor him, by showing love prevails despite the US,br. despite all the harm we have done to each other. and this is why despite everything, i forgive you, and why you forgive me. That's what marriage is meant to be. 2 people defying the odds because they forgive eachother and work together despite human nature and somehow stay together until death.

despite our lives and our difficulty. we better understand what love is by comparing it to evil, by understanding what it is NOT, and seeing how it measures up against evil.
that is what satan is (br) - he is the difficulty that goes against love- so love can win and be great every time. how can we see how love is with no comparison, or way to measure? thats what all this is (br), its to understand love, to understand HIM. he wants us to know HIM. because HE IS LOVE.
love even outlasts physics, not just logic. death is won against through love, when one dies when we love them we remember them forever. miracles that defy all, the ones you and i have experienced they happen because of god because of LOVE. the sun and moon being just right its because of LOVE. we live in a world all about LOVE. and yet it seems to defy it, all to reflect it, as a mirror defies the light that reflects on it to create a true reflection."

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